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#3 He IS having an affair

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worldupsidedown · 10/08/2017 18:41

Ok, here we go for round #3 in which we know DH is having an affair, and does not give a flying fuckAngryof 25 years inc 19 years of marriage or respect for his LW and DD and now we try to establish what the hell thinks he's going to do next and hopefully learn about the YOWHLTF while trying to keep a calm and dignified posture HaloConfused

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PrimalLass · 13/08/2017 17:27

Do not hold off. The farther he gets into this affair, the more he will backtrack on the financial side. Hit him with a divorce asap.

honeyroar · 13/08/2017 17:49

He's funny, isn't he. He's wittering on about wanting to split up amicably and paying the mortgage etc (because in his head he's a good person!) yet at the same time he's rushing off to a weekend away where he can stick his dick in his new fling. Hardly the actions of someone amicable who has just completely pulled the rug from under his family's feet. He thinks a few "nice" texts chucked out at you and his daughter will smooth over all his shitty actions. He's in for a big shock when the seperation process really gets going!

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 13/08/2017 17:54

Have you asked him why he didn't have the decency to tell you he was unhappy before he started shagging the OW?

Mix56 · 13/08/2017 17:54

he booked the Athens trip, before the "so say" start of this thing getting physical.
The lies are frankly infantile, does he think you are that stupid.
Go to mediation, say "you'll think about it" &, consult yr SHL before any acceptance, or deal,
"I need to think about it, I will consider it, I will let you know what I decide."
are phrases you will use a lot. along with, "it doesn't work for me",
do not mention SHL at this stage.

RiseToday · 13/08/2017 17:54

Fuck him. I'd file for divorce first thing tomorrow.

nigelsbigface · 13/08/2017 18:07

What pp have said-I would advise speaking to your lawyer again and flunky for divorce as soon as you can. He isn't your friend anymore-better to do before he had had chance to hide assets, or got advice of how he can come out better off.
Thinking of you op.

user1485639128 · 13/08/2017 18:13

How selfish of him

worldupsidedown · 13/08/2017 18:14

He's fixed the mower enough to cut the grass, done the chickens, bins, fed (but not walked) the dogs and now just gone out. No idea where, either a nice dinner or spin woes to a BM

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mummmy2017 · 13/08/2017 18:19

So his boring life is still the same, only some how your in charge.
I bet he hates it when you cook, but not for him, and having to do his own washing, most blokes don't things about things till they are gone.

Haribogirl · 13/08/2017 18:20

He thinks your really stupid

From what I can remember
He's been friends with her for2 years, she works with him.
He took her for a meal, and said he wanted more of them!
He bought comdoms(just in case, the FIRST night)
She's on holiday in Athens, and he's jetting out to see her.

She jets off, and your shit hits the fan!
Coincidentally

I reckon he's been seeing her much longer than. Couple of weeks

He's keeping it close to his chest, giving nothing but bare minimum away.
All this to stop your going off on one.
Let's be amicable,

I wouldn't even go to mediation, what's the point
Let your solicitor and you get to say what your going to accept
Not HIM
Get to the solicitor tomorrow, whilst he's saying
You can have this, you can have that.
Bloody take it, and more
The longer he's with OW, it will definitely change especially when he start to off load to her. She will influence him.

He's a cold hearted git, as if your not hurting enough
To say, I Don't Love You.

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 13/08/2017 18:22

He did seem to have an awful lot of condoms considering the brevity of their relationship.

eatingtomuch · 13/08/2017 18:30

Just to add I didn't bother with mediation. I decided with a solicitor what I wanted and aimed a bit higher. Our relationship was over and I didn't want to prolong the process.
My focus was getting the DC settled as quickly as possibly. I actually moved and sorted out finances before we divorced and it was legally agreed (solicitor did advise against that), but I trusted him not to go back on his word and he had agreed through his solicitor.
Acting quick definitely got us the best deal. Also we are settled and happy now. I would still be on the family home if I waited until DC finished education. I feel if I'd done that my life would have been in limbo.
We are currently getting ready for a holiday next week. It is different (sometimes lonely), but we have a happy little family unit.

eatingtomuch · 13/08/2017 18:32

You can do this OP.

TattyCat · 13/08/2017 18:40

I also don't think that this affair is recent. The only recent thing about it is that he has started charging YOUR credit card with purchases relating to his sordid little affair and he's done that so that you find out. He's been too scared to tell you so has let you find out that way.

There's no way he's turning his life upside down for something so very very recent. He must be absolutely sure of her to be doing this. He's been lying so that it looks 'more respectable' when telling people.

I'd be cutting his bloody mother off as well, although your daughter still needs a relationship with her. You don't.

TattyCat · 13/08/2017 18:43

To suddenly be so cold to you means that this has been going on a while. Men who find themselves in the 'shock' of an affair (yep, even when they're the ones doing it) are never this calculated. He'd be more like a rabbit in the headlights because you've been together so long. He's taken a long time to get used to this idea, so this little slut has been in a relationship with him for much longer than he's telling you. It may well have happened the way he said it did, but not in that timeline...

Maelstrop · 13/08/2017 19:03

Don't believe a word he says, OP. He will tell you what you want to hear then start squirrelling away money. If I were you, I would start proceedings asap and not believe him when he says he'll pay the mortgage etc. He will soon change his tune when he has to pay for a flat in London and to keep the OW happy.

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 13/08/2017 19:09

I kind of believe this relationship might be new but that doesn't rule out past encounters.

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 13/08/2017 19:12

Also the idea that he's turning his life upside down for something recent overlooks the face that his wife rumbled him - he wasn't intending to tell her and initially tried to bluster his way through it.

ladystarkers · 13/08/2017 19:27

I just wantedto say World,you will so cope without him.

Beentherelefthimgotthetshirt · 13/08/2017 19:45

Monkeys never let go of a branch until they have a good grip of the next one they've swung to.

I agree that this has been going on for longer given his behaviour.

I was in your shoes in 2011. For sanity's sake you should consider a clean break settlement plus maintenance for DD / school fees (if relevant) etc. When you get the valuations tomorrow take a look on Rightmove at what you can buy for 50-60%. My XH was able to buy two nice detached houses in leafy Surrey out of one with an acceptable mortgage on his property so you may be pleasantly surprised at where you can live.

Your assets will be split based on what's disclosed by each of you in Form E and this includes all pensions. If he's a City boy then given his age he'll probably have a DB scheme too so make sure all of his pensions are disclosed for any pension sharing arrangements. See if you can find a Form E online to get a sense of what's coming. It's grim, it's not what you signed up for when you got married. I couldn't face the Form E for a year but you have your DD to get sorted and settled sooner rather than later. You have to play a terrible game of catch up in terms of detaching and all on fast forward.

During the bleakest of times when every fibre of me ached for the man that had been my H and my old life I used to repeat "detach detach detach" and bit by bit I did. I visualised our bond as a chain and slowly but surely each chain link broke until I really and truly didn't give a flying fuck about him.

I wrote my pain and anger away. I kept a pen and paper by the bed and spewed vengeance and bile onto that paper. When the time comes you might find that helps you to cope.

I also realised that I was not only dealing with XH but OW too. I knew him so well and the things he said, well, there were three of us in that divorce settlement so get moving before OW starts contributing.

In terms of DD has he mentioned seeing her when he's not modelling floral shirts and drainpipes in his London bachelor pad? Is he planning to pop down to the country and stay with you on his access days / weekends?Confused. That said DD might have other ideas given her age.

OP treat yourself as you would a friend. Do something special just for you every day even if you don't feel like it. Even if it's a candlelit bath it's something to remind you about who you were before you had dogs and chickens and a twunt to look after. One of the best bits of this awful process is rediscovering you. It's amazing what gets squashed when you're in a relationship.

Be kind to yourself. You've been amazing. Flowers

ComedyofTerrors · 13/08/2017 19:56

The only advice I can give is to give yourself time.

If you don't want him to know you have a (hopefully SH) lawyer all you need to do is say that you need some time to think whatever it is over and that you'll get back to him when you have done so.

The idea to ban any conversation about the marriage or finances that doesn't take place at mediation is a great one. It shuts down him being able to push his own agenda.

Please make sure you get what's best for you and your DD, not what suits him best.

It's a horrible situation for you both to be in. Your hopefully STBX is a very stupid man.

Flowers
ferntwist · 13/08/2017 19:56

You're doing amazingly World. He seems so cold and detached. Could the condoms even have been for another OW or worse, if his relationship with YOW is so new?
Please don't consider taking him back, even if his trip to Athens with her doesn't go well. If he says he's been unhappy for much longer, he'll just find someone else.

Bathsheba1878 · 13/08/2017 19:57

That is really sound advice from Beenthere - even if your DH starts with the best of intentions he will be heavily influenced by the OW. If she feels she only got him because you chucked him out she will be very jealous of you ( always wondering if she only got him by default). He, in turn, will be at pains to prove to her how much he wants to be with her and how little he cares for you. This could well entail being utterly ruthless over finances, the house etc and reneging on previous informal agreements. Anything that hints at compassion for you may well be vetoed by her. Believe me - I've been there. x

yetmorecrap · 13/08/2017 20:00

If you can retain a sense of humour even in a situation like this and be witty and sharp, I think you are going to be fine OP. He is an idiot in a MLC, he isn't the first and won't be the last and he wasn't unhappy or I am very sure you would have picked up on that, he rather liked the ego boost and that feeling of adoration that we all tend to lose when we know the ins and outs of someone over many years. Many of these young women are quite sharp and can pick up on someone who they think 'has a bob or two' and needs their ego fluffing. I know a woman who was like this and they may come over as arty and a bit daffy, but they are not. That's why it's vital to go for protecting yourself and DD now

madja · 13/08/2017 20:31

Just popped in to say, so sorry this has happened to you. What a twat.

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