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#3 He IS having an affair

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worldupsidedown · 10/08/2017 18:41

Ok, here we go for round #3 in which we know DH is having an affair, and does not give a flying fuckAngryof 25 years inc 19 years of marriage or respect for his LW and DD and now we try to establish what the hell thinks he's going to do next and hopefully learn about the YOWHLTF while trying to keep a calm and dignified posture HaloConfused

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SchnitzelVonKrumm · 13/08/2017 10:44

Yes. Even if you think a resolution is possible in future you have to be very clear that you will not be treated like this. The situation now is that you're gone and if he begins to regret his behaviour he'll have to work very, very hard to win you back.

Ooogetyooo · 13/08/2017 10:45

If he still goes on this jolly weekend with OW then he's having his cake and eating it because maybe there's a part of him that wants to come back and try again if his mothers words of advice have got through to him. How does he regard his parents ? Is he likely to listen ? For me, if he still went on the holiday with her, it's game over. Depends if you want him back now anyway I suppose. Even if decides not to go.
My mother had to leave my dad after nearly 29 years of marriage after he did something very similar. It was like he was blinded and almost paralysed as to what to do. Thought he could have his cake and eat it too. Refused to move out causing my mum to nearly have a nervous breakdown with the strain not to mention the fallout with rest of the family. Mum moved out filed for divorce. He continued to dither about what he wanted and blamed everyone but himself. Eventually He married the ow and it lasted 18 months. My mum went from strength to strength and eventually remarried ( a very wealthy man incidentally) and is almost unrecognisable from the woman she was on her knees thinking her life was over. I no longer have a relationship with my father .

Mustang27 · 13/08/2017 10:45

Oh god have you ever had to deal with chicken shit Mileymoocow it's truly foul I don't think anyone would willing take it into their home not even for revenge lol.

Yep I second everyone else if he goes to Athens it should be over as he doesn't need that thinking space to figure it out.

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 13/08/2017 10:47

Yes. Even if you think a resolution is possible in future you have to be very clear that you WILL NOT be treated like this. The situation now is that you're gone, he's lost you, he's thrown everything away, and if he starts to regret his behaviour he'll have to walk over hot coals to win you back.

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 13/08/2017 10:47

Sorry don't know what happened there!

loveyoutothemoon · 13/08/2017 10:48

If this was me I'd still want it to be the end regardless of the weekend away with OW or not, but that's me....

Bambamrubblesmum · 13/08/2017 11:03

If he gets on the plane then you've got your answer, regardless of what he decides.

Anyone who treats you that way and has so little consideration for what you are going through doesn't deserve to be in a relationship with you. Flowers

He's also not being honest with his parents so with the best will in the world they are not in a position to fix this.

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 13/08/2017 11:09

And I trust you explained to MIL that it was a shagging weekend.

Teatowelfairy · 13/08/2017 11:10

Idk if you are open to working things out or if you've decided that even if he shows remorse it's definitely over, however I would expect the remorse and grovelling now. Him going away with YOW would be the final nail in the coffin for me no matter how remorseful he is on return.

Teatowelfairy · 13/08/2017 11:13

Also him going away with her on what is meant to be your birthday weekend and anniversary is even worse IMO.

WeDoNotSow · 13/08/2017 11:17

I'd take everything MIL says with a pinch of salt.
When push comes to shove, he's her child, not too.

WeDoNotSow · 13/08/2017 11:17

*you

FoxyinherRoxy · 13/08/2017 11:20

Bathsheba - you also kept your dignity Flowers

World - mediation isn't therapy and it isn't counselling. It's about division of assets. You look at everything together and make decisions together. There's less back-and-forth negotiation as there would be with solicitors (which makes the process cheaper).

Take a snap shot of your life as it is now, with some predicted expenses for the future. Go through a Years bank statements of spending, accounting for everything you spend and need to spend to maintain the life you have now. From haircuts to Christmas presents to chicken feed. When you present his at mediation you have a working document.

List all your assets, houses, cars, again, everything with any value, be it a piano, an expensive collection, anyway which could b sold for any value. (Not that it needs to be sold, again, its painting a picture).

Pension documents - I got a pension advisor in and we divvied it up. It's about what feels fair, not what you are entitled to. I could have got more, but it didn't feel right.

XH paid for all this. And the divorce. (He didn't want to give me funds from a pit of money he had so said he'd pay. It cost twice as much and he would have been better off sharing the savings). XH was financially abusive and told me as I hadn't contributed financially, I shouldn't be entitled to anything. Wifework has no financial value, mediation is an opportunity for you to give it some. Of course, he had the big career, nice home, large family - all the things I created, and support I gave to him - the things that gave him pride and stroked his ego. Yet he didn't value them. Hmm

It hurts all the more to be told 'it didn't mean anything'. Throw your family away for from he love of your life - you can make some sense of that, but for someone he hardly knows? Sad such a loss.

worldupsidedown · 13/08/2017 11:22

He's just texted me, he's on his way home and now wants to go to mediation. However, if the weekend is still on that's it for me.

Btw this weekend was supposed to be my bday weekend

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SchnitzelVonKrumm · 13/08/2017 11:24

Mediation meaning marriage counselling or re: divvying up assets?

SymphonyofShadows · 13/08/2017 11:26

I suspect he wants to go to mediation so he can demonstrate that he has tried to be 'reasonable'. This is all about appearances, please don't be taken in by it. The only reason he isn't with YOW right now is that she is away.

RiseToday · 13/08/2017 11:29

But does he want to go to mediation to try and save your marriage or is he now thinking about division of assets?

Basically, are you on the same page here? He needs to get his arse home and talk to you in person, not third hand information via his mother.

If he wants to make a go of things, and if you agree, I think the first step is a very good therapist rather than mediation. Or does he think they are one and the same?

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 13/08/2017 11:32

Yes, do point out when he gets home that his is supposed to be your lovely birthday weekend away and instead you're watching the selfish twunt dither between his amazing wife of 20 years and some dumpee with daddy issues.

FoxyinherRoxy · 13/08/2017 11:33

That's what I'm wondering Rise.

But he may be willing t go to mediation because the marriage is over and he wants to get on with the divorce.

RiseToday · 13/08/2017 11:35

Yeah exactly, he needs to clarify exactly what he understands by 'mediation' and what his intentions are.

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 13/08/2017 11:35

If it's marriage counselling, why does he want to go? Just because mummy said so? So can he say he tried? To stall for time? What is he hoping to achieve?

worldupsidedown · 13/08/2017 11:39

Hi. I'm on my way back. 11:32 from waterloo. Seen my parents. Had a long discussion with my mum. Just to say I am prepared to go to mediation with you to get help to work out how we can do things in the right way. We can talk later or later in the week if you want.

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worldupsidedown · 13/08/2017 11:39

No idea what angle he means

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SandyY2K · 13/08/2017 11:41

@Mustang27

You have your view and I have mine. Many posters mentioned the OP should defer the course and I don't think that's the best idea.

While this is still a public forum I'm entitled to express my views on what several others have said.

Being a SAHP is fine when the DC are young, but they grow and don't need their parents as much, as they become independent. That's how you'd expect it to be.

Most couples who agree on one parent staying at home, intend it to be while the childcare costs are so high and when DC are much more dependent. I have a DD15. She doesn't need me home 24/7.

If you have no skills or career, it leads to boredom and potentially creates other problems.

Situations of dependency often give rise to contempt. I speak from experience with Wayward and Betrayed spouses in both positions.

If the levels of stress are a factor in considering deferring the course that's a separate issue.

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 13/08/2017 11:41

Sounds like divorce to me.

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