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I'm leaving him.

542 replies

BitOfANameChange · 24/06/2017 10:30

I've named changed for this; he knows I use MN, although he probably doesn't follow me online.

After 30 years, I've had enough. It's all low level controlling and abusive stuff, which he would certainly deny is abusive. He can be nice at times, especially in public.

But I get treated like a child, told to do this or that. Since the moment I got pregnant I found myself effectively doing all the chores. He'll find some way, all the time, of making an excuse whey he shouldn't be doing them. In particular, his excuse when I was part time for the sake of the children (despite my job at the time being the higher earning potential) was that I had "more time".

I've been reading this board for a long time, and had a slow realisation that a lot of the things described here apply to me in some way. I do come from a dysfunctional family, but they aren't nasty parents, just clueless from their dysfunctions. They love me and my DB dearly, and are loaning me the money to set up in a rental property with the DCs. It's probably no coincidence that DB has also recently come out of an abusive relationship.

'D'P and I never married. He'd divorced his wife when I met him, quite young, and I know now the flags I should have spotted then; badmouthing the ex (who I actually get on well with), the maninuplation by hinting at suicide a couple of times, the depression that somehow allows hime to be an arsehole, etc.

So as we aren't married, the house is in his name, but I ended up being pressured into paying off a chuck of the mortgage with my redundancy payment, "to reduce our costs until you get another job". But he never cut down his mortgage overpayments, cleared the morgage and is now building up his savings, while I have no savings having paid his morgage. I do work now, FT.

The DCs and I walk on eggshells wondering about what mood he'll be in on getting home. Never actually been physically abusive, though. But the incident that started me thinking about the relationship and it's effect on the DCs was late last year, when DC1 and I were in the kitchen with him, and he told her to stop "screaming". She wasn't but her voice can get high when she's excited. She spoke again in that high voice and he yelled at her. She scuttled to the other end of the kitchen before i could intervene and he grabbed her arm hard enough to leave a mark. She's scared of hime now, with good reason. Since then, there's been a little edge of aggression towards her which he doesn't show to our DS. She has bad anxiety and mild depression (been to a doctor) and DS is showing the signs of following suit.

I've always been a comfort eater, and looking back I can see living with him has always raised my stress levels. I'm obese, but instead of being supportive I get constant fat digs from him, including during sex, and he wonders why my libido is dropping. I'm making modifications to my diet and have recently increased my activity levels significantly. I feel better for that.

There are other factors as well, influencing my decision, but going into them could out me.

I realised how much of a crap person he is, and secretly started planning an exit. I've never rented before having straight from parents into his house. But I'm using some of the info gleaned from you lovely people and my application for a little house for me and DCs is progressing well.

I have a cousin with some housing experience, who has given me the name of a good local solitor, so I'm hoping I can get back the money I paid into the house (I do have paper trail). I'm going to be scanning his financial documents when he's out, and saving them to my cloud storage.

I can't talk to him to try and repair this. He'd simply deny abuse, and try to twist it all that it's my fault. Like DD, I'm a little scared of him now.

Sorry, this must seem quite a ramble, but I guess it's because I am finally letting it all out. I'm not expecting anyone to reply, but it's helping me to set it down.

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BitOfANameChange · 29/09/2017 09:19

We had a meeting at college, DD being referred to counselling, all positive. DS, however, admitted to cutting himself yesterday. I don't think it's attention seeking, but I'll ask the school to refer him for counselling too. Nothing from ex, but he's starting to go out and about from what I hear.

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juneau · 29/09/2017 09:22

Sounds like your ex is getting over his tendency for drama then if he's out and about. Maybe the penny has finally dropped that you're not going back?

I'm glad your DD's college is offering her some counselling - that's really good news - and I do hope some help can be found for your DS. The damage that man did to the three of you Sad. I hope you can all find some peace as the dust settles.

Groovee · 29/09/2017 09:43

Glad Dd is getting help and hope you can get help for Ds x

Outlookmainlyfair · 29/09/2017 10:38

I just binge read the entir post. Congratulations on your progress so far!
I really hope your DD gets the help that she needs and your dc and you all get your richly deserved happy ever after!

BitOfANameChange · 30/09/2017 19:04

DD seems much better today, her personality is coming back to normal. We are aiming for a restart of college next week, and support is being put in place.

DS's tutor has acknowledged my email and is passing it on to the relevant people, so hopefully that means he'll get some counselling too.

My cousin asked me if I was going to get some counselling. I will, but only when I'm sure the DCs are well on the road to recovery. I don't want to take the risk of falling apart just yet.

Ex has finally paid some money into my account. I'm not going to say what is the issue, but the amount suggests I need to keep track of it as it's reminiscent of his financial tightness before. Luckily, I'm good with spreadsheets.

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toastyarmadillo · 02/10/2017 07:44

Thinking of you x

Apileofballyhoo · 02/10/2017 14:02

You are amazingly strong.

BitOfANameChange · 02/10/2017 22:10

You are amazingly strong.

I wish. Some days I feel like I'm just staggering along, trying to do the right thing. My anxiety levels are still fragile, and where the DCs are concerned they can shoot up a lot. But there's light at the end of the tunnel, even if I can't quite judge the distance there yet.

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holidayqueriwifi · 02/10/2017 22:14

Staggering in the right direction though! You will get there, you are getting there. Congrats for all you've achieved so far!

Apileofballyhoo · 03/10/2017 18:09

Bit, courage and strength are doing things even when you are afraid and feeling you can't. You are so strong and you're being such a powerful example to your DC. Flowers

BitOfANameChange · 03/10/2017 18:51

Well, that was a good day. Not.

School called about DS, seems he'd told a friend he wanted to kill himself. I've made an appointment at the Gp for tomorrow, hopefully we can get help for him.

School also said they'd have to refer to Child Protection Services, but hopefully they can provide some support for the DCs. I'm a little worried about this, because I've never had any dealings before. Hopefully, I'm doing the right things in the interests of the DCs.

So far, Ex doesn't know where we are, and I haven't contacted him at all. DCs know that if they want a relationship with him, fine, but I won't force it.

We all talked when I got home. Both DCs told me they'd not told me before about stuff, including DS and his feelings, because they were scared that Ex would find out somehow. And they weren't scared I'd tell him, they actually trusted me to keep quiet. They still don't want him to know, they don't feel strong enough for that.

I do feel humbled they trusted me that much, and guilty that I didn't get them out sooner. Sorry, I'm rambling a bit, just getting my thoughts out without burdening the DCs.

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Groovee · 03/10/2017 19:01

Glad you and the children have talked things through.

RandomMess · 03/10/2017 19:18
Flowers
BitOfANameChange · 04/10/2017 18:14

DS is being urgently referred to CAMHS, and DD is not doing well.

Her behaviour now is that she's not slept in 2.5 days. Says her body is tired, but her brain won't slow down. Along with other things making me sit up and take more notice, I'm now wondering if her symptoms of anxiety and depression, coupled with this latest behaviour, indicate something like bi-polar disorder. I've got a GP appointment set up for her and will push harder for something to be done.

Unfortunately, her college course is at risk, at least for this year. I am wondering if taking a year out for time to get well and stable might actually be a help. As she gets better, she may be able to get a part time job for a while before going back to college.

This brought a flash of memory back. When DCs were small, or even before they were born, DP was having another depressive episode and it was mentioned GP was considering bi-polar. Nothing came of that, but it does seem from various online items that there may be a genetic component to the disorder.

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SometimesMaybe · 04/10/2017 18:48

Yes give her the year to just focus on herself and she can go back next year. She can always get a part time job if she starts to feel better quickly so it won't be a "wasted" year. She needs to be kind to herself.

You are doing so well, all of you.

BitOfANameChange · 04/10/2017 19:16

The assessment team are coming to see DS and I on Saturday, and the lovely lady on the phone is bringing information on support for me as well. It's really quick, but the doctor had said he'd speak to them about the referral. I'm just grateful.

I need it, but I know sleep is the main thing right now. For all of us. I'm working on healthy food and some sort of exercise for us all too.

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flutterby12 · 04/10/2017 19:50

I'd lost this thread and just caught up own. You have come such a long way and you really are so strong. You will get through this. Your ex sounds like a piece of work threatening suicide.

RestingBitchFaced · 04/10/2017 20:34

Just found this thread and read the whole thing - you are doing amazingly well OP, you are absolutely doing the right thing for you and your children. He has no control over you now, hopefully things will get easier with time Flowers

RandomMess · 04/10/2017 22:55

Well done for keeping going, you are doing so well in extremely challenging circumstances CakeFlowers

BitOfANameChange · 05/10/2017 10:18

Thanks for the comments, they do help me to KOKO.

DD was finally asleep when I looked this morning. She needs it. I'd suggested last night to try to rest, dim lighting, and maybe to try watching the ASMR sleep vids on YouTube. We both have that response, so I thought it was worth considering. Must have worked and I cautioned DS to be quiet on leaving.

I think DS has some relief for letting it out to the doctor, so yes, challenging circumstances but light at the end of the tunnel.

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Twillow · 05/10/2017 10:56

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juneau · 05/10/2017 11:34

Hang in there OP. You're doing the very best you can - which is all your can do. Your DC do sound like they're struggling, but I'm so glad help is out there for all of you and I hope the meeting on Sat is helpful. Maybe a year out is the right thing for your DD. Have you discussed the possibility with her?

BitOfANameChange · 05/10/2017 13:52

I have discussed the idea with her, she's receptive to it. But that was last night while she was still buzzing.

She still wants to do this course, it's related to something she has enormous interest in. She was even still creating Pinterest boards on the subject to share with me. It may take her longer to get where she wants to go, but she'll have learned so much of life in the meanwhile.

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BitOfANameChange · 05/10/2017 13:55

I will update after the meeting and DD's appointment too, You guys have had the courtesy and goodwill to invest your time in helping me, so I feel I owe you. If you need help in turn, let me know.

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BitOfANameChange · 08/10/2017 11:50

The meeting for DS went really well, they think he might only need some counselling, despite the self harm. He's been given some non-harmful ways of replicating the release he gets from cutting, which he's taken to really well. I could be wrong, but he seems almost relieved, as if being taken seriously has helped him.

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