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I'm leaving him.

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BitOfANameChange · 24/06/2017 10:30

I've named changed for this; he knows I use MN, although he probably doesn't follow me online.

After 30 years, I've had enough. It's all low level controlling and abusive stuff, which he would certainly deny is abusive. He can be nice at times, especially in public.

But I get treated like a child, told to do this or that. Since the moment I got pregnant I found myself effectively doing all the chores. He'll find some way, all the time, of making an excuse whey he shouldn't be doing them. In particular, his excuse when I was part time for the sake of the children (despite my job at the time being the higher earning potential) was that I had "more time".

I've been reading this board for a long time, and had a slow realisation that a lot of the things described here apply to me in some way. I do come from a dysfunctional family, but they aren't nasty parents, just clueless from their dysfunctions. They love me and my DB dearly, and are loaning me the money to set up in a rental property with the DCs. It's probably no coincidence that DB has also recently come out of an abusive relationship.

'D'P and I never married. He'd divorced his wife when I met him, quite young, and I know now the flags I should have spotted then; badmouthing the ex (who I actually get on well with), the maninuplation by hinting at suicide a couple of times, the depression that somehow allows hime to be an arsehole, etc.

So as we aren't married, the house is in his name, but I ended up being pressured into paying off a chuck of the mortgage with my redundancy payment, "to reduce our costs until you get another job". But he never cut down his mortgage overpayments, cleared the morgage and is now building up his savings, while I have no savings having paid his morgage. I do work now, FT.

The DCs and I walk on eggshells wondering about what mood he'll be in on getting home. Never actually been physically abusive, though. But the incident that started me thinking about the relationship and it's effect on the DCs was late last year, when DC1 and I were in the kitchen with him, and he told her to stop "screaming". She wasn't but her voice can get high when she's excited. She spoke again in that high voice and he yelled at her. She scuttled to the other end of the kitchen before i could intervene and he grabbed her arm hard enough to leave a mark. She's scared of hime now, with good reason. Since then, there's been a little edge of aggression towards her which he doesn't show to our DS. She has bad anxiety and mild depression (been to a doctor) and DS is showing the signs of following suit.

I've always been a comfort eater, and looking back I can see living with him has always raised my stress levels. I'm obese, but instead of being supportive I get constant fat digs from him, including during sex, and he wonders why my libido is dropping. I'm making modifications to my diet and have recently increased my activity levels significantly. I feel better for that.

There are other factors as well, influencing my decision, but going into them could out me.

I realised how much of a crap person he is, and secretly started planning an exit. I've never rented before having straight from parents into his house. But I'm using some of the info gleaned from you lovely people and my application for a little house for me and DCs is progressing well.

I have a cousin with some housing experience, who has given me the name of a good local solitor, so I'm hoping I can get back the money I paid into the house (I do have paper trail). I'm going to be scanning his financial documents when he's out, and saving them to my cloud storage.

I can't talk to him to try and repair this. He'd simply deny abuse, and try to twist it all that it's my fault. Like DD, I'm a little scared of him now.

Sorry, this must seem quite a ramble, but I guess it's because I am finally letting it all out. I'm not expecting anyone to reply, but it's helping me to set it down.

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Before · 10/09/2017 12:36

Mumof3dogs. You are making a start by thinking about it and taking about it on a safe place. That is the first step next will come the preparation and planning. Be brave.

Mumof3dogs · 10/09/2017 13:08

Thanks Before .
Threads like this make me realise that I truly can have a different life

Before · 10/09/2017 13:26

I can't begin to tell you how different. First you are still tense because you have become so used to living on a knife edge but little by little you adjust to normal life and feeling happy rather than relief for the good times. You will get there.

Apileofballyhoo · 10/09/2017 14:11

Well done OP. I am so happy for you. Flowers

BitOfANameChange · 10/09/2017 14:28

Mumof3dogs Have a handhold from me Thanks If you need to leave I found the hardest part was getting my head around the necessity, it's just so easy to minimise.

A notebook was useful. Both to diarise the behaviour, and to help in planning, different pages for different things. I kept this in my car, where he rarely went.

I can tell you that life is different Smile I am sleeping better (when I can put the book down...) and there is no pressure on me. I do have to budget, but the DCs are wholeheartedly helping there, by taking an interest in what we eat, etc.

They are happy to do chores, probably because a) I ask and thank them, and b) they see it as us all mucking in.

I'm finding I don't have to watch what I do, I can be noisy or not, can wear makeup without snarky comments about "who are you doing that for?", and so much more. And that's just a few weeks in.

We're having a quiet day today. DD is holed up in bed with horrendous cramps, luckily she's not due at college until Weds, so has time to get over the worst of the period now. She's contemplating getting an implant to see if that helps with the heavy periods and horrible cramps, after having done some research. DS has done homework and has helped with some chores.

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ferntwist · 10/09/2017 15:52

Just read your whole thread Bit and so impressed with you. Here's to your next 30 years of peace. Hope your daughter is feeling better for college.

juneau · 10/09/2017 18:28

The other ladies were saying stuff like "you look nice". And I felt good, and more confident than in a long time. Got a couple of nights out coming up too. I feel better than ever and looking forward.

How lovely! I'm so glad you're getting your confidence back OP Flowers

Mumof3dogs · 11/09/2017 08:19

Thanks for encouraging words Bit
I have started a note on my phone of incidents and things that bother me .
It's quite interesting reading back at it .
The shame of it is that we were both making big efforts to the marriage earlier this year, but lately it seems to have gone back to the disaster that it was a year or so ago .

I can get him being stressed at work, but taking that out on the ones you love is really not acceptable.

He's just put another nail in the coffin this morning by not even acknowledging that it is my birthday. Only asking me to do some washing and saying see you later .

Well that says it all in my book 😭

WitchDancer · 11/09/2017 15:56

Happy Birthday Mum 💐

BitOfANameChange · 11/09/2017 20:27

Happy Birthday, Mum Thanks I really hope it got better.

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Apileofballyhoo · 12/09/2017 23:58

Happy birthday Mum. Hope all goes well for you. This time next year I hope you're having the bestest birthday ever. Cake

BitOfANameChange · 16/09/2017 15:22

I am struggling today.

Ex is clearly not in a good way and I do strongly suspect suicide is on the cards.

I told him I can't go back. I've had calls (went to voicemail) and texts where he's rambling, etc, even dad had a phone call. He's saying he doesn't know what he's done, and will anything to get me back. that he doesn't want to die but has no future.

Dad called 101, and I am trying not to think about this right now. Easier said than done. Kids had messages too, so are aware of the possibility. They are curled up watching mindless tv right now.

If he does kill himself, I won't feel guilty, just sad.

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Before · 16/09/2017 15:43

I phoned the GP and told them so that when he went to see them they knew. She said l was not to feel guilty that l had done my best. It is a real risk and sad if he does to it. He was giving you no life. Stay strong and remember you have much to be grateful for. My ex did not do it. I hope for the children's sake that yours does not either. Xxx

BitOfANameChange · 16/09/2017 15:53

I was walking home from my parents before I posted here, and heard several sirens, in the right direction. If he has done anything I hope he was found. But there is a little part of me that thinks it would be good if he wasn't around, for the peace and freedom to get on with my life.

But the children would benefit from a stable dad, so for their sakes I hope he gets better.

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rizlett · 16/09/2017 16:53

It's a real struggle for you bit but I'm glad you can see the truth of what's happening.

My dad took his own life when he was 38 and I always feel that sometimes life just gets all too much for some people and they just want to get out and that's ok. It was totally his decision and nothing at all to do with me and what I did or didn't do.

Slowtrain2dawn · 16/09/2017 17:50

If a person feels suicidal and cannot reach out for help, it is truly tragic if they end up taking their life. This isn't the case with your ex... he is using suicide as a threat to try to reengage you. He can call/ text/ email Samaritans, or talk to family or friends. But he doesn't actually want help does he? If he does commit suicide it will be his final aggressive act in order to seen as the victim and to try to hurt you.Sadly some abusers do actually go that far. I hope he doesn't.
You have come so far, and have done the absolutely best thing for you and your dc in leaving such a manipulative man. Your thread must have helped so many others too.

whitehandledkitchenknife · 16/09/2017 18:05

Don't waste your energy on feeling sorry for him Bit.

Really? Really?

He is obviously incapable of thinking back and reflecting that a woman doesn't up sticks after 30 years for no good reason.

My father used suicide threats to get my mum to marry him and during their marriage until, like you she found the strength to leave. He was a foul, abusive bully and we lived a childhood of misery and fear. He was a pitiful and pathetic little man.

He is no longer your problem and I take my hat off to you for doing the right thing for you and your children.
Stay strong.Flowers

BitOfANameChange · 16/09/2017 18:11

Dad called me. He's alive, police phoned dad, and it seems an ambulance is there too. Dad even though he heard ex laugh in the background. Police apparently asked if Ex drank, which he didn't when I was with him.

I can now see Ex relied on me far, far too much in terms of emotional support, he has no friends and has turned inwards over the years, investing all his emotional wellbeing in me. Might not be the right way to describe it, but I'm struggling for the best words right now. Pity I didn't get support from him, when I had a couple of times I needed it.

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BitOfANameChange · 16/09/2017 18:17

Oh, he knows what he's done, he had a warts and all email from me. But his response showed he preferred to believe it was full of untruths and misconceptions........ So, he couldn't even let me say my piece, I had to be wrong even in that!

I'm not rushing out to broadcast everything, but I'm not minded to minimise anything if I'm asked. Although I am being discreet in what I actually say, for the sake of the DCs. They don't need it scattered around that I suffered some sexual abuse, for example. The people who need to know that, do know.

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Cambionome · 16/09/2017 18:27

God, what an awful situation. You have done completely the right thing though. Stay strong.

juneau · 16/09/2017 19:09

Well I'm sorry FOR YOU that this has happened OP. I'm afraid from what you've said that I don't have any sympathy for the continuing manipulativeness of your ex. Why the fuck was your DF called???? Does he not have anyone at all (parents, sibling(s), friends, cousins), who could be his next of kin? I think it says volumes about his ability to insinuate himself into your life and not give you any space whatsoever that YOUR father was the one who got the call.

As for you - you've come so far in this short time. You see him so clearly for what he is. He couldn't give you anything like what you needed from him and now that you've finally left he continues to try and control and guilt you from a distance. Your poor DC have a sorry excuse for a father, but they are lucky enough to have you.

strongasmeringue · 16/09/2017 20:04

I've read this whole thread with my heart in my mouth. I'm so proud you got out, Bit, I'm relieved your children see their father for what he is and I'm proud of all the posters who have helped you. Selfishly I wish that I could have received such great support too when I needed it but I am so glad you have.

Frankswife87 · 16/09/2017 20:22

Hugs op, hope you and the kids are OK 💐

AcrossthePond55 · 16/09/2017 21:44

You let his Dad and other relatives handle him from now on. If ex was heard laughing in the background that sounds to me more like a 'cry Wolf' attempt to get attention than a serious attempt.

TBH, you may want to let his dad know that in future you'd prefer not to be kept abreast of ex's attention seeking, nor are the children to be told. If ex knows that you are not being told (and are not interested in) his behaviour, likely it will stop.

BitOfANameChange · 16/09/2017 21:51

Acrossthepond Ex has no-one, just a sister he hasn't spoken to for a couple of years, and rarely before that. It was my dad he called.

And I had a text from him a few minute ago, so I guess is at home still.

I'm thinking of blocking his number.

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