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mylittlestar update - Oh sh**, oh sh**, oh sh**. Why didn't I listen? Am I a complete mug? Will I ever get over this??????

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mylittlestar · 19/03/2007 08:30

Posted a bit this weekend but just couldn't think straight enough to start a thread.

Ok to brifly summarise for those who don't know - dh left me and ds last year after 14 years together (since age 16) as he needed 'space', had many issues in his life (work, parents split up, closest person in his family passed away), suffering from depression too.

It killed me, absolutley killed me, but I felt our marriage was worth saving and supported him 100%, let him come and go as he pleased, let him have the family life (to see what he was missing... lol!) and the single life.

People in RL (and on here - HappyDaddy in particular, you were right!) said I was being naive. That he was having his cake and eating it. That he needed to grow up and face his responsibilities. Why did he have the 'right' to walk away and come back when he wants. And many people also said that he probably wanted to go and see other women.

I defended him to everyone. Absolutely everyone. I had 100% faith that once he got the 'living alone, putting himself first' thing out of his system he'd come back to me and ds and we'd be stronger than ever.

Friday night he was staying with me but disappeared for 2 hours ('gym'?!). Sat morning he got up at 7.30 am (went out to get 'breakfast and the papers'!) disappeared for 2 hours and switched off his phone when I rang him.
Alarm bells started. He'd pushed me too far. When he got in the shower I checked his phone. 2 messages. Unknown number... 'why didn't you want to kiss me, is everything ok, can you pick me up from work later....'

I confronted him immediately. He tried to deny it. But gave in after a few mins. He's been having an affair with a 19 year old.

I was shaking uncontrollably. (Now Can't stop being sick.) But I held it together.

We talked. I listened to him. I then went straight up to where she works and confronted her. Complete slut. I was really strong and dignified, asked her to explain her side, then calmly walked away. She was white as a sheet and shaking like a leaf. But said he pursued her and she had every right to see who she wants, especially as we're 'separated'...

I then asked him to end things with her, which he did immediately. She then got really really pssed off and got in touch saying how much she loved him, that they love each other, and* that shes pregnant!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, here's what hurts. Yes the affair. The deception. At a time when I'd givien him everything I could to support him.

The fact he had unprotected sex with her. (I now have no idea if the pregnancy is true or a desperate lie to keep him.)

The fact he swore leaving was nothing to do with seeing other people and nothing to do with his age. Then he actively seeks out a 19 year old to do this with (he's 30 this week)!

He swears he doesn't love her. It was about selfish attention seeking and excitement. And ironically, after months of wanting him to come back to me and ds and say that I'm all he wants in the world - he has finally said it!

I know deep down in my heart I can forgive him. I stick by my committment to my marriage, I love him to bits, and I think we can have a happy life. I honestly do.

He's seen the grass isn't greener. But why did he have to test it

But how the hell do ever get close to him again? How will I ever get the thoughts of him and her out of my head?

Have I allowed him to have this affair by letting him have the double life? Am I a complete mug?

Ok, next step is to get STI checks. To find out about the pregnancy. And for us to talk and continue with the relationship counselling (which was working wonders and bringing us really close again?!?!) - whilst he had an affair in the background!

My heart isn't broken, it's numb. Inside is just emptiness, sadness, sheer hurt beyond words. But somewhere in there is my love for him. Can I get through this and ever have a happy marriage again?
I'd like positive stories or guidance. But if you think I'm a complete a* hole then tell me.

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Ifonlyhewould · 08/04/2007 10:03

Hi MLS

Now listen! You are wonderful, you are amazing, BUT.... you are also human!! You are dealing with all this like a true hero but it's only natural that you will have all these thoughts. Don't be too hard on yourself.
Even DH probably can't even tell you why he did what he did. He may have no valid reason for it. He may 'blame' his depression, he could come up with a number of excuses but, whatever he comes up with, it wasn't your fault!! He made a bad choice. A bad decision. He made a mistake.

I hope you are feeling ok today. Have a lovely day. Can't wait to have a proper catchup! {smile]

PS Im ok, have harldy seen him. It's just me and dd which is fine

lilybubble · 11/04/2007 20:52

mls, how are you? sounds like monday was great, but how has everythign else been?

and how's everyone else doing too?

mylittlestar · 12/04/2007 09:28

hi lily

everything has been going really well thanks

although I had a bit of a 'wobble' last night... lily, cnc, IOHW, any of you on e-mail or can I CAT you??? I could really do with a chat today...

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BandofMothers · 12/04/2007 09:33

Know I haven't posted on here since the start of hte thread, but my email is [email protected], and I have MSN too.

mylittlestar · 12/04/2007 09:37

Thanks BOM

I really appreciate that. And I remember your advice and also you being so nice to me in the bar on the evening when I'd just found out.

Thank you. I'll e-mail you now.

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BandofMothers · 12/04/2007 09:39

OK,

melminx · 12/04/2007 09:40

mls you ok?

BandofMothers · 12/04/2007 09:41

I'm afraid I haven't kept up with the thread tho

mylittlestar · 12/04/2007 09:56

BOM I'm not surprised you haven't kept up with all the waffle that's been going on

The summary of it is that I'd decided to stick by dh no matter what and we were working through things, looking for a new house, actually getting on really well. And really beginning to enjoy each other's company again. I feel like that was the right decision.

I decided not to pursue anything regarding the ow, possible pregnancy etc as I thought that if she is about to become a single mum at 19 I didn't want to add to her problems. I just want dh and I to be there for the baby if there is one.
If not though, hopefully we'll never see her again.

Hi mel - I'm ok. I'm just beginning to doubt if I was doing the right thing and wondering if I can really get through it. And I may have jeapordised it all for absolutely nothing anyway.

But keep your fingers crossed for me that it'll be ok xx

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Paddlechick666 · 12/04/2007 10:03

Hi MLS

at work today adn they've banned webmail but i can pick up via my phone. think i need to invest in a blackberry!

hope you're okay.

our easter ended up okay but not without drama and stress. long story but we didn't have the boys at all in the end.

very about it and with dh's ex. she let it go as far as him arriving to collect them and them getting dressed etc before pulling access! how can you treat kids like that i do not know....

anyways, MLS, really hope you're okay.

mylittlestar · 12/04/2007 10:06

hi there

I wrote you an e-mail before but I wasn't sure if you were around

I'll send it now xx

btw over the ex - she is something else! you'll have to update me. I hope you're ok

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Paddlechick666 · 12/04/2007 10:09

okay will check in a few mins.

the ex takes the biscuit eh! at least dh didn't go off on one again and we take that as a real sign of improvement in his depression.

we enjoyed sun/mon as a small family of 3 but really missed the boys.

BandofMothers · 12/04/2007 10:10

Have replied to you MLS.

Hopefully no pg then. Fingers crossed

melminx · 12/04/2007 10:11

mls you will feel on a roller coaster of emotions for a while. Dh has to accept the damage he has done and the tremendous amount of pain he has caused you and accept whatever you throw at him in order to deal with his betrayal.

We are all here for you xx

mylittlestar · 12/04/2007 10:27

thanks everyone

mel thanks I know you're right. I thought I was doing so well but I don't think I gave myself enough time, I started to worry that perhaps we couldn't get through it and have pushed dh away. Now I'm scared to death that I've ruined everything. When I already had everything I wanted by having him back.
I'm an idiot.

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melminx · 12/04/2007 10:36

mls you are NOT an idiot. Your a wonderful person who is dealing with her pain in an amazing way. But you are not superwoman or an ice cold witch. You are a woman madly in love with her dh who has been hurt by him. It does take time to deal with what you are going through and there will be ups and downs but it will eventually even out. You can get through this but it takes time strength a hell of a lot of patience and trust for both of you. Im sure you havent pushed him away he is probably hating himself for the pain he has caused you and is finding it difficult to deal with what he has done.

Have you spoken to him? can you text him tell him you love him and want thim but you are struggling with your pain you dont mean to lashout/push him away your just hurting and you do want you both to work through this difficult time and come out together with your marriage in tact and happy.

mylittlestar · 12/04/2007 10:45

I'll text him now xx

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hurtwife · 12/04/2007 11:13

Hi MLS

I too am having a few niggles too. We are going to meet someone from work about how it will all work out once he returns.
I really dont think i can handle it - i am having major panics. He is being so supportive of this which really helps.

We cant help our feelings and if they become suppressed then we are not being true to ourselves and that is when unhappiness creeps in.

If this really is going to work you must not be afraid of hurting him by what you say. This is your time to heal and he must understand that. Also remember that it is still very early days. I can honestly say it took about 2-3 months for my h to really get it. We have been so lucky in that he has been able to take some time away from work and so he can now see how much he had put at stake.

It is hard but dont worry about whether it will work - if it does not you will KNOW it was not from lack of trying on your part. He has damaged your marriage and it can only be mended if he is willing to go through this with you.

You are strong and will survive but there will be the odd day and you have every right to get his support.

Take care let us know what happens after the text.

melminx · 12/04/2007 11:19

hoping your ok?

mylittlestar · 12/04/2007 11:24

hurtwife I bet it must be really hard for you. I know you're dreading him going back and I'm so glad he's being supportive of you.
Don't be too hard on yourself. And try to remember that it probably won't be as bad as you think. You can be in touch with him regularly. And its you he comes home to, you he wants to be with. He'd be absolutely stupid to put that at risk again.

DH texted back saying his head is battered with everything and he's just fed up of the whole situation and wonders how we'll ever get the trust back and he doesn't know what to do. And that he's sorry.

I really feel like he's going to be the one who ends up calling it all off

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melminx · 12/04/2007 11:32

mls im sorry but he created the whole situation. He now needs to take responsibility for what his done and put you and your ds first before himself. Have you thought of printing all this out and letting him read it. Let him truely understand the gut wrenching pain he has caused to you? It is hard and it will be a struggle but it can work. It would be great to push it all away over night but it cant be.

Can you not not talk with him about it and carry on ranting on here? we are always here to listen. or you can have my number and rant that way if you like? i found having someone to rant at helps because it takes me away from screaming at him and i can concentrate on dh and our family knowing when i need to rant ask advice i have it ready at end of phone or here on the computer.

Im sure he doesnt want to walk away his just in pain at what his done to you. Men are waeker than us and struggle more to cope.

lilybubble · 12/04/2007 12:11

mls, email me on [email protected]
Sorry, have only just got online today, sorry you're not having a good day, knowing the feeling all too well

Ifonlyhewould · 12/04/2007 13:10

Hi MLS

This is a bit of a shock

Can I help you?

Please don't panic. Don't be so afraid of losing DH that you end up losing yourself. You have to be true to yourself too.

I hope by the time you read my post you have managed to sort something out and are feeling better about things.XX

melminx · 12/04/2007 13:15

mls are you ok?

mylittlestar · 12/04/2007 13:23

Not really.

I just don't know what to do. I think dh now thinks the whole situation is just too difficult and now the trust is completely shattered and he doesn't know how we'll get it back.
I think he wants to try. But he thinks that perhaps the relationship is just so damaged by what he's done, and the effect it's now having on me, that he doesn't see a way forward.

Sorry everyone. I much preferred it when we were having a laugh. I don't want to be someone on here who's always bringing things down and always in a state. I'm sorry.

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