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mylittlestar update - Oh sh**, oh sh**, oh sh**. Why didn't I listen? Am I a complete mug? Will I ever get over this??????

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mylittlestar · 19/03/2007 08:30

Posted a bit this weekend but just couldn't think straight enough to start a thread.

Ok to brifly summarise for those who don't know - dh left me and ds last year after 14 years together (since age 16) as he needed 'space', had many issues in his life (work, parents split up, closest person in his family passed away), suffering from depression too.

It killed me, absolutley killed me, but I felt our marriage was worth saving and supported him 100%, let him come and go as he pleased, let him have the family life (to see what he was missing... lol!) and the single life.

People in RL (and on here - HappyDaddy in particular, you were right!) said I was being naive. That he was having his cake and eating it. That he needed to grow up and face his responsibilities. Why did he have the 'right' to walk away and come back when he wants. And many people also said that he probably wanted to go and see other women.

I defended him to everyone. Absolutely everyone. I had 100% faith that once he got the 'living alone, putting himself first' thing out of his system he'd come back to me and ds and we'd be stronger than ever.

Friday night he was staying with me but disappeared for 2 hours ('gym'?!). Sat morning he got up at 7.30 am (went out to get 'breakfast and the papers'!) disappeared for 2 hours and switched off his phone when I rang him.
Alarm bells started. He'd pushed me too far. When he got in the shower I checked his phone. 2 messages. Unknown number... 'why didn't you want to kiss me, is everything ok, can you pick me up from work later....'

I confronted him immediately. He tried to deny it. But gave in after a few mins. He's been having an affair with a 19 year old.

I was shaking uncontrollably. (Now Can't stop being sick.) But I held it together.

We talked. I listened to him. I then went straight up to where she works and confronted her. Complete slut. I was really strong and dignified, asked her to explain her side, then calmly walked away. She was white as a sheet and shaking like a leaf. But said he pursued her and she had every right to see who she wants, especially as we're 'separated'...

I then asked him to end things with her, which he did immediately. She then got really really pssed off and got in touch saying how much she loved him, that they love each other, and* that shes pregnant!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, here's what hurts. Yes the affair. The deception. At a time when I'd givien him everything I could to support him.

The fact he had unprotected sex with her. (I now have no idea if the pregnancy is true or a desperate lie to keep him.)

The fact he swore leaving was nothing to do with seeing other people and nothing to do with his age. Then he actively seeks out a 19 year old to do this with (he's 30 this week)!

He swears he doesn't love her. It was about selfish attention seeking and excitement. And ironically, after months of wanting him to come back to me and ds and say that I'm all he wants in the world - he has finally said it!

I know deep down in my heart I can forgive him. I stick by my committment to my marriage, I love him to bits, and I think we can have a happy life. I honestly do.

He's seen the grass isn't greener. But why did he have to test it

But how the hell do ever get close to him again? How will I ever get the thoughts of him and her out of my head?

Have I allowed him to have this affair by letting him have the double life? Am I a complete mug?

Ok, next step is to get STI checks. To find out about the pregnancy. And for us to talk and continue with the relationship counselling (which was working wonders and bringing us really close again?!?!) - whilst he had an affair in the background!

My heart isn't broken, it's numb. Inside is just emptiness, sadness, sheer hurt beyond words. But somewhere in there is my love for him. Can I get through this and ever have a happy marriage again?
I'd like positive stories or guidance. But if you think I'm a complete a* hole then tell me.

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mylittlestar · 05/04/2007 09:12

Hopefully she will

I'm ok. We just had a good talk last night and I started to think WHY?????

I'm not sure what it was. I just started to wonder why he's done this to us. We had everything we wanted and we make each other so happy. We were just having a bit of a difficult time with one thing and another and took each other for granted a bit. I just can't understand why he would jeapordise everything for a relationship which meant nothing at all.

But it's probably just hormones and tiredness and I think I needed a good cry and big hug and some reassurance. I forget that it's only been a couple of weeks, it's still such early days. I feel ok this morning.

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LilyLoo · 05/04/2007 09:17

FWIW MlS i wouldn't try to understand it there really is no answer, i'm sure your DH won't have one either. But a good cry is always good and also it is early days it can't go back to all smiles yet ( if ever) it is much too soon.

melminx · 05/04/2007 09:18

mls i think we feel pain and betrayel differently to men. they seem to be able to switch off and carry on as normal where we are gibbering wrecks who cry constantly for no reason. why is always the question that we never get the right answer to. but he is still there and you two are still talking which is the main thing. its important you talk but dont make that the same topic of conversation think someone gave great advice that they just want to forget it while we like to talk it to death! too true. if only they could understand how much damage they do when they have their fun.

mylittlestar · 05/04/2007 09:31

True. I don't think he has the answer. And I agree that going over it again and again will just end up tearing us apart anyway. I've been quite good so far - in that I don't spend every evening in tears, asking questions, going over it etc... I try to make most evenings special, nice meal, bottle of wine, dvd's, whatever it may be to take the focus away from it all. But I didn't realise it was all still so raw for me and I could break down that much.

But I feel better for it today and ready to start planning a nice Easter weekend with him and ds.

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Ifonlyhewould · 05/04/2007 09:34

Good Morning Troopers

Sorry to hear your feeling today MLS. We shall have to try and rectify that right now!!

Paddlechick666 · 05/04/2007 09:41

must be something in the air! dh has been a bit unresponsive last day or so.

turns out his ex is "playing up" apparently but he's not replying to texts this morning so have no idea what that's about.

suppose should be grateful he's told me this early in the piece. normally i don't hear about the latest "trigger" till we're 3 weeks into the crash.

should explain, the ex dicks around with access to his other kids.

have booked joint mediation for 18th April...

seriously tho, today i can't be arsed with all the hassle. that 2 bed high rise single mother hell is looking more and more attractive right now!

sorry ladies, am on a downer

Ifonlyhewould · 05/04/2007 09:46

Good morning paddlechick sending you a big hug!!!
Sorry you are having such a bad time too.

Stay strong!! xx

mylittlestar · 05/04/2007 09:54

paddlechick

definitely something in the air I think

joint mediation sounds good. and at least he's keeping you informed that she's kicking off and like you say, not just hiding away for weeks and telling you nothing

can you ask him to come round for a chat and see if there's anything you can do to help him?

xx

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Paddlechick666 · 05/04/2007 10:05

hi mls

well i was hoping he'd come over tonight and we'd spend tomorrow together.

then he's due back down on sunday with the skids.......

god this is what i hate, everything picks up and then bang it's all blown out again. and it's always some outside factor that stuff us up!

grrrr

melminx · 05/04/2007 10:08

must be the sun shine makes the men play gits!

ernest · 05/04/2007 10:10

bloody hell, hope I haven't infcted you all, I'd had bad couple of days mon & tue but seem to be back on track. You will be too mls. Don't forget, a weep is necessary sometimes, better out than in. Like you said, it's such early days for many of us. You're dong so well, and an occasional feeling of being overwhelmed must be normal. It's a bloody enormous thing that's happened. There is no logical explanation because what these men have done has no logic to it whatsoever.

Remember - eyes on the goal

paddlechick, at least he has told you but all the same. must feel so bloody draining and relentless, and also out of your control to a certain extent, after all what his ex gets up to and the prolems she creates are extra hassles for you on top of the ones you've already got. Hope you get a bit of sunshine and smiles from somewhere today.

hugs to all

Ifonlyhewould · 05/04/2007 10:13

I'm thinking i should start a support group for wronged women. Where women can come along and 'let it all out', talk, rant, cry whatever takes their fancy. Get it all off their chestsssss. Compare notes. Some might go home feeling grateful for what theyve got, some might never go home! I think there can be a lot of strength gained from talking to other women. Sod counselling. Thats just civilised arguing.

mylittlestar · 05/04/2007 10:15

all so true!

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Ifonlyhewould · 05/04/2007 10:21

OR.... i may open a tattoo parlour

Paddlechick666 · 05/04/2007 10:29

pmsl! i think you'd make money at both!

I don't think men and women should even attempt to live together.

we should rely on women for our emotional support and to build a safe secure happy environment.

put all the blokes into a high security library, when you need one you can check him out for a set period of time.

obviously the tagging idea would be useful for this scenario.

pity the poor ugly b*ggers who'd never see the light of day tho.

actually, scratch that, pity them not!

ernest · 05/04/2007 10:29
Grin
Ifonlyhewould · 05/04/2007 10:32

TOTALLY agree paddlechick!! Totally!

Also think marriage licences should be valid for 5 years with an option to renew for a further 1yr, 5yr or 10yr!

melminx · 05/04/2007 10:33

put reply on iohw thread instead of this one! i am blonde for sure today!

Ifonlyhewould · 05/04/2007 10:36

Thats ok, i'm in competition with MLS for the highest number of posts

Ifonlyhewould · 05/04/2007 10:40

You never know paddlechick, you might fancy trying an ugly one with a big tattoo area! Once word gets out the ugly ones might get out more than the not so ugly ones

hurtwife · 05/04/2007 10:49

I really like the idea of a marriage licience. how many men would pass their test second time round though!!

Actually i find our cousellor great its just like a cup of tea and a chat anyway - with some searching questions put in for him to answer. She is great and we think of her more as a friend now - we know she thinks of us between sessions too.

I told my h about some of these threads and he laughed because he has been there - we think all men are given the same script to read in these situations!!!

Good luck to you all it can be better but you have to get to the point where your old relationship really is over and then start building on a new one - the only difference is you already know so much about each other so you both have a bit of a head start.

I sometimes feel like we are dating again and it great to get some of that excitment back again. It is also useful to enjoy the now and not worry about the future too much - anything can happen then but no-one can take away the now - so try and enjoy each lovey day.

melminx · 05/04/2007 10:51

maybe we need a man on here that done this to his dw and get his perspective on it?

Ifonlyhewould · 05/04/2007 10:51

Lovely post hurtwife

hurtwife · 05/04/2007 10:57

Well this site helped me through my dark days so i am happy to help - i cnat believe i am here now after the last 6 months.

Just wanted to say it is great not be judged at all and get other views.

I also feel it is time for a namechange so i am having a think and will do it soon.

lilybubble · 05/04/2007 14:03

hi all, sorry today doesn't seem such a good day hurtwife, that was a lovely post.

melminx, yes that would be fab to talk to a man who'd done that to his dw - imagine the hard time us lot would give him though!!!

mls, hope you have a great weekend with dh and ds - have you got much planned?