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mylittlestar update - Oh sh**, oh sh**, oh sh**. Why didn't I listen? Am I a complete mug? Will I ever get over this??????

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mylittlestar · 19/03/2007 08:30

Posted a bit this weekend but just couldn't think straight enough to start a thread.

Ok to brifly summarise for those who don't know - dh left me and ds last year after 14 years together (since age 16) as he needed 'space', had many issues in his life (work, parents split up, closest person in his family passed away), suffering from depression too.

It killed me, absolutley killed me, but I felt our marriage was worth saving and supported him 100%, let him come and go as he pleased, let him have the family life (to see what he was missing... lol!) and the single life.

People in RL (and on here - HappyDaddy in particular, you were right!) said I was being naive. That he was having his cake and eating it. That he needed to grow up and face his responsibilities. Why did he have the 'right' to walk away and come back when he wants. And many people also said that he probably wanted to go and see other women.

I defended him to everyone. Absolutely everyone. I had 100% faith that once he got the 'living alone, putting himself first' thing out of his system he'd come back to me and ds and we'd be stronger than ever.

Friday night he was staying with me but disappeared for 2 hours ('gym'?!). Sat morning he got up at 7.30 am (went out to get 'breakfast and the papers'!) disappeared for 2 hours and switched off his phone when I rang him.
Alarm bells started. He'd pushed me too far. When he got in the shower I checked his phone. 2 messages. Unknown number... 'why didn't you want to kiss me, is everything ok, can you pick me up from work later....'

I confronted him immediately. He tried to deny it. But gave in after a few mins. He's been having an affair with a 19 year old.

I was shaking uncontrollably. (Now Can't stop being sick.) But I held it together.

We talked. I listened to him. I then went straight up to where she works and confronted her. Complete slut. I was really strong and dignified, asked her to explain her side, then calmly walked away. She was white as a sheet and shaking like a leaf. But said he pursued her and she had every right to see who she wants, especially as we're 'separated'...

I then asked him to end things with her, which he did immediately. She then got really really pssed off and got in touch saying how much she loved him, that they love each other, and* that shes pregnant!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, here's what hurts. Yes the affair. The deception. At a time when I'd givien him everything I could to support him.

The fact he had unprotected sex with her. (I now have no idea if the pregnancy is true or a desperate lie to keep him.)

The fact he swore leaving was nothing to do with seeing other people and nothing to do with his age. Then he actively seeks out a 19 year old to do this with (he's 30 this week)!

He swears he doesn't love her. It was about selfish attention seeking and excitement. And ironically, after months of wanting him to come back to me and ds and say that I'm all he wants in the world - he has finally said it!

I know deep down in my heart I can forgive him. I stick by my committment to my marriage, I love him to bits, and I think we can have a happy life. I honestly do.

He's seen the grass isn't greener. But why did he have to test it

But how the hell do ever get close to him again? How will I ever get the thoughts of him and her out of my head?

Have I allowed him to have this affair by letting him have the double life? Am I a complete mug?

Ok, next step is to get STI checks. To find out about the pregnancy. And for us to talk and continue with the relationship counselling (which was working wonders and bringing us really close again?!?!) - whilst he had an affair in the background!

My heart isn't broken, it's numb. Inside is just emptiness, sadness, sheer hurt beyond words. But somewhere in there is my love for him. Can I get through this and ever have a happy marriage again?
I'd like positive stories or guidance. But if you think I'm a complete a* hole then tell me.

OP posts:
melminx · 04/04/2007 14:01

no sorry cant stand the silence driving me nuts! keep picking up phone then putting it down picking it up throwing it accross onto other sofa!

mylittlestar · 04/04/2007 14:04

If I were you I'd ring or text!

I know the whole space thing, let him come crawling, give each other time to think... it's all important stuff. But I have absolutely no will power and I'd call or text and say I love you and how are we gonna sort this mess?!

But that's me! I don't know what's best for you...

Start more threads on MN to keep you distracted...??

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melminx · 04/04/2007 14:07

im crying and i accidently sent him text meant for my son i got an mda phone pain in butt to use and i got text back from him saying grow up sending me texts for other people wont get you anywhere it was agenuine mistake and i've told him that

melminx · 04/04/2007 14:10

his said he never meant to hurt me his not and isnt planning to have an affair

my response i am hurting wish i could stop it but you chose to text and phone her rather tahn me how am i not meant to hurt over that

no response yet

melminx · 04/04/2007 14:10

just cant go on like this

mylittlestar · 04/04/2007 14:23

any way you can talk face to face?

I really think you need to. It's tearing you apart. Get him back home, give each other a big hug, then see how you feel from there?

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Paddlechick666 · 04/04/2007 14:27

hi mel

so sorry to hear your situation and the pain you are in now.

i know how angry and hurt you can feel. you definately need to rant and rave to someone. MN is fantastic but sometimes you really need to verbalise. Is there anyone you could call to talk this thru?

IME, ranting and raving at the bloke in these scenarios just makes them run farther away and you more angry. men find it so bluddy easy to ignore text messages.

when my dh has been at his worst depressed state i could spam him all day and get nothing back. by the evening i would be ready to blow my top - and quite often did. mostly to his mum LOL!

i'm sorry but i'm not sure of your whole story but get the gist from your posts here.

he's not ready to be rational or caring of your feelings at this point. even if he says he is.....

until he is seriously ready (and i guess he might never) to listen with humility and respect then telling him of your "negative" feelings will just push him back into his "i didn't do anything" head in the sand defensive corner.

i'm like MLS, totally crap at staying out of touch. i promise i won't contact him but i always do. actually on a good day i think this is our virtue, on a bad day i think i'm weak!

if you want to text or call then absolutely you should do so. if you need to scream and shout specifically at him then go for it.

but if you want him to communicate back and get to a place where he will open up, care about your feelings and be prepared to listen to what a twat (whatever he's done) he is then I would try to keep your messages if not amicable then definately less confrontational.

as i say, i don't know all your story so forgive me if, in your circumstance, i'm talkin utter tripe.

either way, i'm so sorry you're going thru this.

Paddlechick666 · 04/04/2007 14:29

meant to say "i promise myself i won't contact him".

i've never agreed to not contact him, even when he pleads to be left alone !

melminx · 04/04/2007 14:44

he just texted he loves me but wont work if no trust havent replied crying too much to use phone lucky ds's in other room settled. this place is amazing and the support goes beyond words id be a wreck grizzling in the corner if it wasnt for all this support im just grizzling on the chair!

mylittlestar · 04/04/2007 14:54

tell him you can get the trust back if you both love each other and it's what you both want

and you can

I'm doing it!

xx

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Paddlechick666 · 04/04/2007 14:54

oh mel, you're doing brilliantly. you need to get all this emotion out so that you can think clearly.

there are days where you just dissolve all day for no apparent reason. you just have to endure them and think tomorrow will be better.

i don't know what he's done but whatever it is it's obviously shaken your trust in him. he needs to understand and appreciate that.

but you need to communicate it as clearly as you can to him - but without getting so angry you lose it iyswim.

if you have doubts about his fidelity then his sending heaps of texts to another girl when he said he was too busy (or whatever) to contact you is going to errode your trust in him.

can you text him back, tell him you love him and you want to trust him and for things to work (assuming you do of course) but given his behaviour it is quite reasonable for you to have doubts. ask him if he wouldn't be feeling suspicious, hurt and upset if you'd behaved the same way.

hth, stay strong, whatever the outcome you will come thru this to another day and maybe even another life but there is happiness in your future whatever you choose.

melminx · 04/04/2007 16:00

paddle great advice just texted him exactly that how would he feel but in a nice way so he doesnt feel im having a go

melminx · 04/04/2007 16:01

getting out of house soon need air!

mylittlestar · 04/04/2007 16:15

good for you

it made me feel better getting out for some fresh air before too

paddlechick is great with the advice - she knows what she's talking about!

and i think you've done the right thing in texting him in a non-confrontational way

off to get ds now but i'll check back on your thread later so let us know how you are

xx

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ernest · 04/04/2007 16:30

how are you melminx?

melminx · 04/04/2007 18:31

better for having got out the house. thankyou. how are you? havent read your post but seen name mentioned

ernest · 04/04/2007 19:01

bad day yesterday, good day today, tholeft computer on, so he's found out a. that I've been discussing 'us' here, and b. my chat name, so presumably if so inclined can read all about it, not that any of it he doesn't know I suppose
Glad you got out. Makes a big difference that staying at home chewing it all over doesn't it

melminx · 04/04/2007 19:46

yea but home now stewing as to why he isnt getting in touch irrasional and childish of me i know

ernest · 05/04/2007 07:47

Not at all irrational and childish. Drives me insane if he doesn't get in touch. (My dh, not yours you understand)

ernest · 05/04/2007 07:56

how is everybody today?

ernest · 05/04/2007 07:57

sorry, one more thing - isn't mumsnet absolutely fantastic???

melminx · 05/04/2007 08:01

morning ernest

mylittlestar · 05/04/2007 08:20

hi ernest

what a pain about the computer - is everything ok?

to be honest I've worried too about my dh seeing this - but then when I thought about it I decided there's nothing here that he doesn't already know and that we haven't talked about.
And if this support is getting us through it then he has nothing to complain about!

I'm not too good today. Had a big cry last night but just needed to get it all out.

How are you ernest?

And everyone else?

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melminx · 05/04/2007 08:31

morning mls. you ok? i thought you was doing so well and being strong im so sorry your hurting again x

LilyLoo · 05/04/2007 09:06

Morning all. you feeling bit down today MLS. It is perfectly normal though you can't be strong everyday hopefully IOHW will be around soon to cheer everyone up !

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