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mylittlestar update - Oh sh**, oh sh**, oh sh**. Why didn't I listen? Am I a complete mug? Will I ever get over this??????

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mylittlestar · 19/03/2007 08:30

Posted a bit this weekend but just couldn't think straight enough to start a thread.

Ok to brifly summarise for those who don't know - dh left me and ds last year after 14 years together (since age 16) as he needed 'space', had many issues in his life (work, parents split up, closest person in his family passed away), suffering from depression too.

It killed me, absolutley killed me, but I felt our marriage was worth saving and supported him 100%, let him come and go as he pleased, let him have the family life (to see what he was missing... lol!) and the single life.

People in RL (and on here - HappyDaddy in particular, you were right!) said I was being naive. That he was having his cake and eating it. That he needed to grow up and face his responsibilities. Why did he have the 'right' to walk away and come back when he wants. And many people also said that he probably wanted to go and see other women.

I defended him to everyone. Absolutely everyone. I had 100% faith that once he got the 'living alone, putting himself first' thing out of his system he'd come back to me and ds and we'd be stronger than ever.

Friday night he was staying with me but disappeared for 2 hours ('gym'?!). Sat morning he got up at 7.30 am (went out to get 'breakfast and the papers'!) disappeared for 2 hours and switched off his phone when I rang him.
Alarm bells started. He'd pushed me too far. When he got in the shower I checked his phone. 2 messages. Unknown number... 'why didn't you want to kiss me, is everything ok, can you pick me up from work later....'

I confronted him immediately. He tried to deny it. But gave in after a few mins. He's been having an affair with a 19 year old.

I was shaking uncontrollably. (Now Can't stop being sick.) But I held it together.

We talked. I listened to him. I then went straight up to where she works and confronted her. Complete slut. I was really strong and dignified, asked her to explain her side, then calmly walked away. She was white as a sheet and shaking like a leaf. But said he pursued her and she had every right to see who she wants, especially as we're 'separated'...

I then asked him to end things with her, which he did immediately. She then got really really pssed off and got in touch saying how much she loved him, that they love each other, and* that shes pregnant!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, here's what hurts. Yes the affair. The deception. At a time when I'd givien him everything I could to support him.

The fact he had unprotected sex with her. (I now have no idea if the pregnancy is true or a desperate lie to keep him.)

The fact he swore leaving was nothing to do with seeing other people and nothing to do with his age. Then he actively seeks out a 19 year old to do this with (he's 30 this week)!

He swears he doesn't love her. It was about selfish attention seeking and excitement. And ironically, after months of wanting him to come back to me and ds and say that I'm all he wants in the world - he has finally said it!

I know deep down in my heart I can forgive him. I stick by my committment to my marriage, I love him to bits, and I think we can have a happy life. I honestly do.

He's seen the grass isn't greener. But why did he have to test it

But how the hell do ever get close to him again? How will I ever get the thoughts of him and her out of my head?

Have I allowed him to have this affair by letting him have the double life? Am I a complete mug?

Ok, next step is to get STI checks. To find out about the pregnancy. And for us to talk and continue with the relationship counselling (which was working wonders and bringing us really close again?!?!) - whilst he had an affair in the background!

My heart isn't broken, it's numb. Inside is just emptiness, sadness, sheer hurt beyond words. But somewhere in there is my love for him. Can I get through this and ever have a happy marriage again?
I'd like positive stories or guidance. But if you think I'm a complete a* hole then tell me.

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Ifonlyhewould · 05/04/2007 14:05

And what about me? Don't forget me

Ifonlyhewould · 05/04/2007 14:07

I'm fine anyway going to dd easter bonnet parade soon, can't wait! Made her this fantastic hat but judging by the hats i saw going into school this morning NOT fantastic enough! Am already planning next years creation. We mums can be quite competetive you know

Hope you are ok lilybubble xx

melminx · 05/04/2007 14:09

yeah the poor man. well i have done whole garden clean up had a rottweiller and a staff that serioulsy destroyed garden but both have been rehomed month back. so now garden is clean if not any grass left. kids toys are out and im putting up massive trampoline and i thought that would take me to bed time so i could sleep and wish the time away! but no its only friggin 2 ish! so tempted to drive to where his working and throw cold spagetti all over him!!!

mylittlestar · 05/04/2007 14:18

hi lilybubble

I took IOHW's advice and have let dh plan the weekend - so far we're going for a drive somewhere on saturday so we can have a walk, ds can play/tire himself out and dh is going to make a picnic! Sunday we'll do family visits - as always on these occasions! Monday... we're both liking the sound of having a duvet day!

He just sent me an e-mail saying it's killing him seeing what he's putting me through but anytime I want to scream, shout, cry, whatever then I'm to do what feels right and he'll help me any way he can. And that he loves me.

What are you up to?

IOHW easter bonnet parade sounds good! We're learning all about you at the moment aren't we... IOHW (AKA commedian, strong woman, holiday planner, competitive mum.... )

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Paddlechick666 · 05/04/2007 14:39

mls

sounds like a great weekend.

have finally heard from dh, he seems okay but the ex has managed to ruin any nice idea i had of spending good friday together.

she's bloody poisonous she really bloody is.

i've had enough of being jerked around by his baggage i really have.

lilybubble · 05/04/2007 14:45

IOHW, so sorry!!!!! Competitive mum eh!?!? How old is your dd? Do love your name, by the way - conjures up all sorts, it's fab!

melminx well done on the garden front, bloody brilliant going!

mls, your weekend sounds lovely. and what a really lovely email from your dh - almost bringing the tears on again here, it's so sweet and so heartfelt. I really hope that in a couple of weeks time I will be getting similar from mine, but I don't feel too optimistic right now

paddlechick - at the twisted ex. So sorry she is ruining things for you. Can you alter your plans accordingly??

mylittlestar · 05/04/2007 14:55

paddlechick has she done something you can't change?

does he have to do whatever it is alone or could you all do it together?

and for you

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Paddlechick666 · 05/04/2007 14:58

well dh will of course alter his plans accordingly because she says jump and he says how high. because if he doesn't then she'll say he can't see the kids.

never mind that the next thing will be more abusive texts saying she can't cope and making more demands. she does like to cut her nose off to spite her face.

either way dh loses - either do what she says and retain access and upset me or fight, lose access and have additional stress.

and whichever way it pans out me and dd come last. and i'm the one who'll bear the brunt of the crash and be made to feel unreasonable because i'm the one who says the behaviour is unacceptable.

so, while everyone else is having a nice family day tomorrow me and dd'll be on our own till sunday.

makes me so

Paddlechick666 · 05/04/2007 15:04

mls, she says she'd dropping kids at his parents' place first thing tomorrow. which is a 2 hour drive from where i live.

yes we probably could find something to do at a halfway point but surely dh should bloody suggest that not me.

the way this is building it will probably end in his withdrawing entirely and i won't hear from him again........

i am fed up of being reasonable. okay he was great last week but he missed spending an afternoon with dd (having not seen her for 3 weeks so he needed that time for her to get used to him again) because he misjudged the time he'd need to do something for sds2 the same day. not that he'd told me he was doing something with sds2 and apart from screwing my plans for that afternoon too!

but i just know what the outcome of these things is - he just feels hemmed in by her and me when this happens. but i am fed up of it.

oh lord! don't get me started - i could rant for ever on this!

ernest · 05/04/2007 15:07

Mls, am at your dh's mail. mine's being crap at keeping in touch today. But not letting it get me down. Too much.

Paddlechick, nightmare having some poisonous ex having such power over you. Really tough. Sorry she's knackered Good Friday for you, but will Easter itself be intact?

iohw enjoy your parade.

And HAPPY EASTER everyone, I'm off now till Tuesday, wish me luck in Germany.

Cashncarry · 05/04/2007 15:14

Sorry to butt in - Paddlechick - your situation sounds awful. It must be so disheartening feeling like you're at the bottom of DH's list. I know this sounds a bit heartless but is there anyway you could just factor him out of your plans for Easter i.e. make some plans for you and DD to do lovely things that don't necessarily involve him so that if he's there - great, if not - his loss?

mylittlestar · 05/04/2007 15:18

Happy Easter ernest! Have a great time xx

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melminx · 05/04/2007 15:23

paddle chick sorry dont know hat to say to anyone you cheer all up! mls you go girl i have visions of you and dh as the richard gere and whats her name out of officer and gentleman his been a pig but his going to sweep you up carry you off and make it all better

melminx · 05/04/2007 15:23

ernest have a great time

mylittlestar · 05/04/2007 15:25

oh paddlechick she's a complete bitch

and your dh needs a slap for not considering you and your plans and your dd in all of this

I know we've talked about this and I do understand your reasons, but would you be prepared to do something with him and his other kids just so you're at least all together?

tbh I can completely understand how angry you are and I wonder if he needs to start having a real think about his priorities

could he perhaps get something legal and in writing the grants him access to his children on a regular basis. then he cannot be at her beck and call and she cannot withdraw access as a way to get back at him (I think this should be a major priority.)

following on from that he also needs to have a serious think about whether putting this woman and his other kids before his wife and daughter is the right thing to do. he's so close to losing you. but you're so strong and supportive. and he's taking advantage

I know you want to spend time with him. I'd be exactly the same. But I liked cashncarry's suggestion of making plans for yourself and dd and leaving him out.
I know you don't want to cut off your nose to spite your face. It won't make you feel better.
But at the same time, if you pin your hopes on him turning up on Sunday and he doesn't, you'll feel even worse.

Could you text him and say you're sick to death of being second best and your daughter being second best to the other children. And if he's not prepared to make your daughter a priority you will.
And to that effect you have made plans for you and dd for the next few days and would prefer it if he does not get in touch. And you will contact him when you're ready.

Could be the shock he needs??

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mylittlestar · 05/04/2007 15:26

melminx I like that image!

are you ok?

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melminx · 05/04/2007 15:30

bearing up! badly!!!

paddle how old are his other kids?

Ifonlyhewould · 05/04/2007 16:42

I'm back

Easter bonnet parade was LOVELY!! Brought tears to mine eyes!

Me? No, i'm not competetive! I just don't like to lose

Your weekend sounds divine MLS! You are obviously doing something right.

Sorry you are having such a hard time paddlechick. I do hope things improve xx

melminx · 05/04/2007 16:52

BLESS I BET DD LOOKED JUST BEAUTIFUL

Cashncarry · 05/04/2007 16:57

IOHW - at you getting to go to your DD's Easter Parade, DD's was today and not only could I not go, she didn't ruddy win! I rang the Nursery to find out, sad I know

Hope you girlies are all ok and have a nice break! I'm sure I'll be checking these threads over Easter 'cos they do make me larf my tits off but just in case you're all going off to do exciting things, have a good time!

Ifonlyhewould · 05/04/2007 17:08

Awhhhhh! cashandcarry, i'm sorry you didn't make it to your daughters parade. There were no single winners at our do, they were ALL winners! they each got a cadburys creme egg which, by the time we got home had melted into a little fist shape I had to remould it and put it in the fridge for half an hour.

I hope you will all be doing more then 'checking' the threads over easter cos i'm going to be very lonely if no one 'talks' to me It's not that i'm wishing you all to have a massive row with your DH's then come on here and talk about it or anything like that

She did look beautiful melminx but i'm biased she always looks beautiful to me. How are you doing now? Still stood away from the phone i hope!!

Ifonlyhewould · 05/04/2007 17:13

Thank you lilyloo dd is 4yrs, she's a doll!

I chose the name when i was at a low ebb and thinking 'if only he would give me a kiss/cuddle' then i started thinking 'if only he would jump off a cliff' so you see.... lots of variations on the 'if only he would' theme

melminx · 05/04/2007 17:26

no iohw i got a i do love you text and in my excitement i answered. not had a reply but was only 10 minutes ago could be driving. was nice though getting the text. i will be on over easter the trampoline is a god send kids dont want to come in quite happy bouncy away. might even have a go later meself when they are in should give the neighbours a flippin gfood laugh!

Ifonlyhewould · 05/04/2007 17:29

Awh thats nice melminx, i'm pleased for you (smile)

DD has a trampoline. I thought it would be good fun to join her on it.... until i disgraced myself! (blush) The old pelvic floor isn't quite what it used to be. Make sure you go for a wee wee before you start bouncing

melminx · 05/04/2007 17:33

pmsl i shall remember! text was nice but want more want i miss you im cominghome

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