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Help dealing with dw sexting

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Wellyboots86 · 12/04/2017 07:50

Hi everyone,

My dw and I have been together for nearly 16 years now, met as 15yo and neither of us had any real relationships prior to meeting up (nothing longer than a year). We are the same age.

Like all couples we've had ups and downs over the years, for me the worst bit was a one night stand she had at uni aged 18/19 which I forgave long ago. Only bring this up as what I'm about to discuss has brought the memory back.

We have 2 ds and had a difficult time with #2 being 5 weeks early and subsequent health issue for him (all better now). In hindsight I think we both went through a period of depression over this. Like a lot of couples, sex disappeared after having #2 (until recently only 1 "fooling around" session in about 6m) and some of this is down to juggling young family, work and basically being too tired to do anything by the time ds x2 are asleep.

We've both said recently about needing to make a bit more effort towards each other sexually as we take each other for granted in that way, 15 yrs together and sex is still important to us but not essential.

So backstory over, here's my dilemma....

Shortly after talking about making more effort with each other, dw and I slept together for the first time in ages and it was amazing, felt really connected to her again and both very happy.

Then the next day I was using her phone to check Facebook (I don't have an account and we've shared hers for years) when I noticed an app I've never seen before in a folder with random stuff she never uses. Opened it and it was a chat room app where she had been talking dirty to a few guys! I only had a few seconds to take it in as she came back into the room so I closed it again and said nothing as wanted to wait for her to be in the bathroom etc to have a better look. She was on her phone a lot that night which is unusual as she normally uses iPad and I guess subconsciously this is what made me use phone not iPad for checking Facebook. When it came to bedtime I tried to take up some stuff for her as usual, including phone and she made excuse to keep it. When she came up and went to bathroom I checked again and she'd deleted app but I found a few topless pics in her deleted folder of photo album. Confronted her about it and she said that it had only been going on a few days, she planned on stopping anyway, was bored when I'm at work during the weekend (and joked she was fed up of watching peppa pig) and apologised. I went to sleep downstairs and she sent a lovely text saying how bad she felt and begging forgiveness.

Next couple of days were a bit awkward as we discussed it a few times but agreed to move on and things felt a lot better, we seemed closer and both genuinely in a better headspace. I had said that I can move on as long as it stops.

Then on Friday when she was in the shower after we'd been intimate again, I got a burst of paranoia and checked phone to find she had searched for the app again (nothing on phone and I know it was a new search as I'd put Spotify on phone that morning for her). Said nothing, went to sleep having closed App Store. In the morning (after I'd been up a few hours with eldest ds) she came downstairs as I needed to go to work and I checked phone again, she'd obviously been back on again whilst I was downstairs! Again said nothing as we were in really good place (apart from me inside).

Sunday after work I asked her if there was anything to tell me and she said no, told her I knew she was still going online and she admitted that she was and found it a confidence boost (she has always been conscious about weight) as well as just chatting normally (not just sexy talk) as we don't have any close friends and sometimes when I'm working she feels isolated from the world.

I told her that I could understand (genuinely can) and said what hurt more was her hiding it still by waiting for me to go to work and then deleting app. I said that if it was helping her confidence, helping us be more intimate and helping her be happier then I could forgive and as long as she just left app on phone rather than sneaking around, I'd overlook it. Asked her to stick to chat not pics though and she agreed to just Facebook type pics not sexual.

It's now Wednesday morning and I know that she has been on several times a day since Sunday (I've checked a few times despite her keeping phone close to her). I've read a lot of the chat and it is a mix of normal talk like movies etc but there are a few guys where the dirty talk is pretty full on and (worse imo) she has been sneaking off a few times to take more pics (which I've seen - not as raunchy but still one topless one).

My real issue is this - it is obviously making her happy and has helped improve things in both our day to day relationship as well as massively sparking our sex life. I have zero worries ATM about her doing anything physical as she is telling people she's got a partner and lives 50 odd miles away from where we actually live. I don't want to keep confronting her as she'll know I'm looking and hide things again and also I genuinely want her to be happy. She is a teacher and as it's half term now I think she will "calm down a bit" once back at work as won't have as much free time.

The question is, am I doing the right thing by letting her have some "harmless" fun online as it is clearly helping her (and us) reconnect after a hard year? I don't want to drive a wedge between us again and admittedly it is a bit of a turn on sometimes but the sneaking off to take pics as well as her being up late at night sexting (when she gets up for the loo) is still bothering me a lot. Also, it's only been going on for just over a week so am I just being over sensitive/justifiably so still as it's so fresh and need to give it until she's back at work to properly assess the extent of the problem?

Sorry for the ramble!

OP posts:
LoveDeathPrizes · 14/04/2017 11:50

Is it an app? On iPhone?

If so, settings; battery; battery use will tell you which apps she's recently accessed.

Wellyboots86 · 14/04/2017 13:05

Lovedeathprizes - can't check this as she changed passcode after last conversation, that's why I had to make her show me rather than just take it off her.

Would it still show there if she goes back to deleting all the time?
If I get a chance I'm thinking of putting my thumbprint on there as a backdrop in. I know the app is still on phone now as She just unlocked it to check a recipe (just saw app on home screen so don't know if she'd used it at all).

What I'd like is to be able to check whenever as she leaves it lying around now I can't unlock it or alternatively drop into conversation if I see it after Monday (the deadline she wanted)

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blueribbon234 · 14/04/2017 13:18

Oh Welly, that's exactly what I did with the gym and losing weight, I did it because I knew I was going to take it to the next level and start actually seeing men
Don't be fooled

Wellyboots86 · 14/04/2017 13:35

Blueribbon234 that is part of my worry. Don't think it's going to be for anyone she talks to now as the one I know she is most chatty/intimate with has a partner too but maybe prepping herself for joining dating apps later on?

I might be being unfair as she's said for ages about wanting to lose weight (before ds1 was born even) and just never gone ahead. She tried 5/2 diet before Christmas and got quite down when it wasn't working. Maybe she just wants/needs a distraction and things will be better when she has the figure she wants? Or is that dumb logic?

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Cricrichan · 14/04/2017 13:47

I don't understand this gradual weaning of sex chatting to men! Especially when she knows her marriage is on the line.

Op i know you want your marriage to work but not when she just swans around disrespecting you and your family and you bend over backwards to try and accommodate her. Having to check her phone etc is no relationship either. You won't be able to trust her because she's lied every chance she's gotten. You can't trust you two being good together because the last time this happened was because she'd started chatting to men. You can't trust an imported sex life because you'll always have it in the back of your mind if she's doing it for other reasons.

She needs to want to save your relationship . She needs to make the effort and any fool knows that what she's doing isn't at all acceptable and she should be doing everything she can to let you know that she's sorry, that she'll get therapy, stop chatting etc. She isn't at all. She's continuing doing what she wants right under your nose. She actually makes me feel sick. You sound like such a lovely man and hope you kick her out and you'll have your pick of women who will love you for the wonderful and considerate man that you are.

Cricrichan · 14/04/2017 13:48

Improved sex life not imported!

blueribbon234 · 14/04/2017 13:53

I too always went on about losing weight but never managed, I lost two stone with the nerves and excitement of it x

Wellyboots86 · 14/04/2017 14:09

Ducks in a row time!

She just took ds1 up to change and left phone unlocked (couldn't put fingerprint on as needed passcode).

Looked at recent apps, chat was most recent. Read through quickly and one of them was a guy asking to meet up (she's told me people have asked before) and her saying about getting hair done and wanting to look her best for him. Also he couldn't meet when she wanted as he was at work but where she said was very close to us, don't know if she wanted the meet up on same day as hair appointment.

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IsNotGold · 14/04/2017 14:36

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blueribbon234 · 14/04/2017 14:56

I could have written that script, I knew it was only a matter of time the minute you mentioned the losing weight
She needs a shock, pack her stuff and tell her you're going to make sure everyone she knows will get the truth about why you've split
Trust me, understanding is not the way to go now

LoveDeathPrizes · 14/04/2017 16:08

Oh Welly I'm sorry.

LoveDeathPrizes · 14/04/2017 16:09

To be honest, I'm not sure you need to snoop now. I think this says it all.

Wellyboots86 · 14/04/2017 16:25

So looks like my marriage is over!

She saw that I was upset and said she felt I was still really suspicious and watching her all the time. Asked if anything else had happened and she said no, asked about the meeting up and she said she'd been asked but hadn't suggested anywhere. Showed her message I had from her about meeting up but him not being free and she said she never intended to go through with it.

We had a massive row and I said it was over, after both of us crying we started talking practicals around housing, access to kids etc and seems 50/50 is the way we are going.

I said how much I still love her even after all this and how I'd be willing to try and get things on track but she's not sure if she can do this as she finds our marriage boring and would probably only stay so that the kids had both parents 24/7 which we both agreed is wrong.

I wish so much that I'd never found out and had just been an oblivious party that she came back to after getting bored of the online stuff.

She's looked at houses to rent and we've both said we will stay near enough to make access easy for both of us. To make matters worse, our boiler broke last night so need to get that fixed asap which we can't afford! It's going to be so hard as financially I can't afford to live in the house on my own (despite the fact I should qualify for a lot of benefits due to wage) and the idea of renting, never owning my own home and not having my boys with me everyday makes me want to curl up and die. I'm also useless at cooking and want the boys to eat healthily as they do now when I have them so need to learn to do that. Both cars are in her name so need to get a car, insurance etc sorted too.

What a catch I was right ladies? The only thing it seems I have going for me is being a devoted father.

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LoveDeathPrizes · 14/04/2017 16:29

This is the hard bit. Take it one step at a time. You can't see beyond the trees yet, but you will.

LoveDeathPrizes · 14/04/2017 16:30

Thing is - she wouldn't have just come back after dropping the online stuff. She would have had an affair.

LoveDeathPrizes · 14/04/2017 16:32

Do you know what? Let her meet these random married guys. Let it sink for her that the real encounters will ultimately be devastating for her self esteem. And when she decides she wants you back, let's just hope you're feeling strong enough to say no.

Mumfun · 14/04/2017 16:41

I'm really sorry. Butt you have done the right things being strong and standing up for yourself. People behaving like this never respect kindness etc but just treat you as weak.

She would have had affairs and broken up your marriage anyway . It would just have taken longer and caused you more pain.

Flowers this is lots of support and practical help on here so do keep posting!

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 14/04/2017 16:52

I'm so sorry this is happening to you. But I think your dw is on potentially a very damaging course. You are doing the right thing. i suspect she will want to get back with you when she really sees how empty and horrible the lifestyle she is choosing is but you will have to be strong. You will meet someone who knows how to value you.

Wellyboots86 · 14/04/2017 17:03

I asked her if she would've ever pulled the trigger as it were and told me it was over and she said that selfishly she wanted the fun stuff online and the security of family environment so probably not although she was finding the pressure terrible.

I've been looking at houses, etc and I just can't see how I will be able to afford to live on my own (I know I can apply for benefits etc but no idea what I'll get). The whole thing terrifies me and I know she'll be better off than me as she earns more (it might balance out with benefits).

I wish we could patch things up and move past it but feels like we're too far down this track now. She actually said she wished we didn't have the boys as that's the worst part, not seeing them 24/7 and it's the same for me. Ds2 I'd asleep in my arms now and I keep bursting into tars when I think of all I'm going to miss. I made ds1s cheeks wet with tears when I put him to bed, kept apologising to him for splitting up his little family.

I feel like such a shit father right now and feels like I'm abusing my children by splitting up the family and them having to live in two worse houses than our current nice one. I genuinely think I'd rather die if it wasn't for my children.

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Wellyboots86 · 14/04/2017 17:05

Also, I'm quite an introverted person (no friends, wife has always been all I need) and I'm scared I'll never be able to find someone else as have no clue where to begin!

I feel like a scared teenager again but with debts, kids and a job to hold down

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Rezan · 14/04/2017 17:58

I don't really know what to say, but things will get better in time. I just wanted to post to say that you sound like a great father, and it wasn't you that split up the family, it was her.

sistermj · 14/04/2017 18:16

really sorry about all this OP. just remember although everything feels awful now you still have your kids and things will get better and u will eventually find someone. you dont need to rush into finding a new relationship. Work through this its just a chapter of your life. things dont always go smoothly but it will be okay if not great in the end :)

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 14/04/2017 19:14

Things will feel very hard right now but these are the steps you need to take to get out of this unhealthy relationship. I think you will look back at this as the turning point.
It's not the same situation, but I look back at the time ds was diagnosed with asd as my worst point. I had hidden from the knowledge for so long. But it had to be faced so we could move on and do what needed to be done.
I think for you too you have to face the reality and wade through a lot of crap to come out the other side. And you will.

JeffJarrett · 14/04/2017 19:58

I'm sorry OP. It all escalated really quickly for you. You're absolutely not a shit father or husband. Please don't blame yourself.

I'm hesitant to say this, but there's a big chance she will realise what's at stake when things are put in motion to split and might ask for your forgiveness then. I don't want to give you false hope.. she might not, but change can be frightening and her bravado could disappear.

If she does though and you want to try again (which I think you do), please don't just welcome her back with open arms and think things can go back to being the way they were before this. There's a very real chance that a few months could go by and it all starts again, or that she leaves you for someone else. Keep that in mind when you decide what you want to do.

You really do need to have some form of counselling if you stay together, don't let her talk you out of it. Make it a non negotiable condition or I honestly believe you'll be in the same (or a worse position).

LoveDeathPrizes · 14/04/2017 20:35

I think she'll get out just long enough to scratch the itch, then she'll be back.