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Help dealing with dw sexting

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Wellyboots86 · 12/04/2017 07:50

Hi everyone,

My dw and I have been together for nearly 16 years now, met as 15yo and neither of us had any real relationships prior to meeting up (nothing longer than a year). We are the same age.

Like all couples we've had ups and downs over the years, for me the worst bit was a one night stand she had at uni aged 18/19 which I forgave long ago. Only bring this up as what I'm about to discuss has brought the memory back.

We have 2 ds and had a difficult time with #2 being 5 weeks early and subsequent health issue for him (all better now). In hindsight I think we both went through a period of depression over this. Like a lot of couples, sex disappeared after having #2 (until recently only 1 "fooling around" session in about 6m) and some of this is down to juggling young family, work and basically being too tired to do anything by the time ds x2 are asleep.

We've both said recently about needing to make a bit more effort towards each other sexually as we take each other for granted in that way, 15 yrs together and sex is still important to us but not essential.

So backstory over, here's my dilemma....

Shortly after talking about making more effort with each other, dw and I slept together for the first time in ages and it was amazing, felt really connected to her again and both very happy.

Then the next day I was using her phone to check Facebook (I don't have an account and we've shared hers for years) when I noticed an app I've never seen before in a folder with random stuff she never uses. Opened it and it was a chat room app where she had been talking dirty to a few guys! I only had a few seconds to take it in as she came back into the room so I closed it again and said nothing as wanted to wait for her to be in the bathroom etc to have a better look. She was on her phone a lot that night which is unusual as she normally uses iPad and I guess subconsciously this is what made me use phone not iPad for checking Facebook. When it came to bedtime I tried to take up some stuff for her as usual, including phone and she made excuse to keep it. When she came up and went to bathroom I checked again and she'd deleted app but I found a few topless pics in her deleted folder of photo album. Confronted her about it and she said that it had only been going on a few days, she planned on stopping anyway, was bored when I'm at work during the weekend (and joked she was fed up of watching peppa pig) and apologised. I went to sleep downstairs and she sent a lovely text saying how bad she felt and begging forgiveness.

Next couple of days were a bit awkward as we discussed it a few times but agreed to move on and things felt a lot better, we seemed closer and both genuinely in a better headspace. I had said that I can move on as long as it stops.

Then on Friday when she was in the shower after we'd been intimate again, I got a burst of paranoia and checked phone to find she had searched for the app again (nothing on phone and I know it was a new search as I'd put Spotify on phone that morning for her). Said nothing, went to sleep having closed App Store. In the morning (after I'd been up a few hours with eldest ds) she came downstairs as I needed to go to work and I checked phone again, she'd obviously been back on again whilst I was downstairs! Again said nothing as we were in really good place (apart from me inside).

Sunday after work I asked her if there was anything to tell me and she said no, told her I knew she was still going online and she admitted that she was and found it a confidence boost (she has always been conscious about weight) as well as just chatting normally (not just sexy talk) as we don't have any close friends and sometimes when I'm working she feels isolated from the world.

I told her that I could understand (genuinely can) and said what hurt more was her hiding it still by waiting for me to go to work and then deleting app. I said that if it was helping her confidence, helping us be more intimate and helping her be happier then I could forgive and as long as she just left app on phone rather than sneaking around, I'd overlook it. Asked her to stick to chat not pics though and she agreed to just Facebook type pics not sexual.

It's now Wednesday morning and I know that she has been on several times a day since Sunday (I've checked a few times despite her keeping phone close to her). I've read a lot of the chat and it is a mix of normal talk like movies etc but there are a few guys where the dirty talk is pretty full on and (worse imo) she has been sneaking off a few times to take more pics (which I've seen - not as raunchy but still one topless one).

My real issue is this - it is obviously making her happy and has helped improve things in both our day to day relationship as well as massively sparking our sex life. I have zero worries ATM about her doing anything physical as she is telling people she's got a partner and lives 50 odd miles away from where we actually live. I don't want to keep confronting her as she'll know I'm looking and hide things again and also I genuinely want her to be happy. She is a teacher and as it's half term now I think she will "calm down a bit" once back at work as won't have as much free time.

The question is, am I doing the right thing by letting her have some "harmless" fun online as it is clearly helping her (and us) reconnect after a hard year? I don't want to drive a wedge between us again and admittedly it is a bit of a turn on sometimes but the sneaking off to take pics as well as her being up late at night sexting (when she gets up for the loo) is still bothering me a lot. Also, it's only been going on for just over a week so am I just being over sensitive/justifiably so still as it's so fresh and need to give it until she's back at work to properly assess the extent of the problem?

Sorry for the ramble!

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Wellyboots86 · 13/04/2017 10:18

Her normal stance is either fly into anger (more when she's tired or I've hurt her by doing something clumsy like standing on her foot with work boots on) or silent treatment.

If it's something she doesn't want to discuss then she will do all she can to avoid it. She keeps saying that she's got nothing new to say, apologises but gets fed up going over stuff over and over.

She's not that prone to crying or anything like that so that's not too unusual in this situation.

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Wellyboots86 · 13/04/2017 10:19

Hello girlies - luckily ds1 is under 3 and ds2 is under 1 so don't think they'll pick up on all this

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LoveDeathPrizes · 13/04/2017 10:19

Huh. I don't know how you work with that. So you basically have to put up or shut up?

Wellyboots86 · 13/04/2017 10:28

We don't argue that often normally so it's never really been an issue tbh maybe that's why it feels so hard to confront this head on...

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LoveDeathPrizes · 13/04/2017 10:31

Do you not argue because there are no issues? Or because you're happy to turn a blind eye to placate her?

badabing36 · 13/04/2017 10:33

So...

She doesn't want to do counselling
She doesn't want to let you check her phone
She doesn't want to give up sex chatting completely
She doesn't want you to make her feel bad about it
And...
She says she might as well have had an affair.

I'm sorry this must be shattering for you but your marriage is over.

Unless of course you're willing to let her carry on doing this and probably worse.

Wellyboots86 · 13/04/2017 10:45

Just given her ultimatum about me seeing stuff. She refused saying she wasn't comfortable with it then when I said I need that or it's over she said she needs space to think about what she wants. Hmm...

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Wellyboots86 · 13/04/2017 10:45

We don't argue much because there's not normally many issues

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noitsnotme · 13/04/2017 10:49

Give her space. Tell her to leave. Your marriage isn't her priority.

IsNotGold · 13/04/2017 10:49

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IDontLikeMyUsername · 13/04/2017 10:53

Oh dear. I'm sorry Welly that is no response is it. She does indeed sound quite detached.

Wellyboots86 · 13/04/2017 10:59

I've told her that she knows what I need to get past this and that I won't bring anything else up until she does now. Either she gives me the access I want so that I can start trusting her again or we contact divorce lawyers, her choice

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SandyY2K · 13/04/2017 11:16

A counsellor will not judge her. They've seen and heard much more serious things than this.

I think the issue is she doesn't want counselling, because she doesn't want to stop.

In the online world, where you get flooded with compliments by men and.... Because the ratio of men to women is in the woman's favour.

As a woman, you get flooded with men who hit on you. It can become addictive very quickly.

Wellyboots86 · 13/04/2017 11:30

That's exactly what I think it is, her guilty addiction and that's why she won't let me see it as she wants to keep it hidden (fun?)

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FritzDonovan · 13/04/2017 11:42

Did you give a time limit on her making that decision, or is she just not going to mention anything and hope if she doesn't do anything for a while (and/or not get caught), things will get forgotten and be back to 'normal'? That's my OH's default setting on arguments.

Wellyboots86 · 13/04/2017 11:57

I've not given her a verbal one as don't want her to feel rushed into a decision she regrets. I have an internal deadline though...

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LoveDeathPrizes · 13/04/2017 12:20

Mine too Fritz. Infuriating isn't it?

I'd be tempted to signup to the site. But I know I'll flamed for that.

Wellyboots86 · 13/04/2017 12:32

Tbh the thought crossed my mind but I'd feel like a hypocrite if I did and be as bad as her

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CMamaof4 · 13/04/2017 12:39

Totally agree with everything Badabing36 says.
You are just her safety net...

CMamaof4 · 13/04/2017 12:40

I also think as the children are so young its better to break up now as it won't impact them so much, as it would an older children.

Nicole69 · 13/04/2017 12:55

My ex gave me "permission" to do this (he said he got his kicks out of it) and it very soon escalated to a lot more - yes, it is addictive. I met someone and left him. The fact that he was a violent abusive twat helped, but still.

This wont end well, I promise you. And I'm so sorry. you sound like a nice guy and very undeserving of this treatment.

Wellyboots86 · 13/04/2017 13:55

So I have finally gotten her to give me her phone (felt like shit as after a long argument with me saying ok we're over then get out she ran upstairs crying).

Saw nothing really that I hadn't already, more of the same chat and a couple more pics (one topless no face and 2 close up covered). She tells me that she has already ended chat with some of the guys and will now end it with the others I saw today. I've grabbed a bit of proof just in case though...

She said that she has been doing it as feels shit about her body and that the compliments she's been getting (as well as how she thought they looked) had given her a massive buzz but that she knew it was wrong.

Assuring me that it never would've gone further but also said if we didnt have the kids then we probably wouldn't get past it how things are now. I know that staying for the kids is a terrible idea as they will pick up on things but at the same time we fell back into little jokes and things straight after she showed me and I felt a massive weight lift from between us which I hope means that there's enough of a spark left there to work with.

At least I know now that really pushed to the limit she caved and I don't think she'd have done that if there was nothing there. Says she feels sick and I told her now she knows how I've been feeling

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LoveDeathPrizes · 13/04/2017 14:37

So if she stops using these sites, has the problem gone away? She'll still want to. Abstinence is never successful if for someone else and she'll resent you. It's a real shame she won't consider therapy.

Happyinthehills · 13/04/2017 14:43

To consider therapy she has to believe that it would help and that she deserves to be helped.

Wellyboots86 · 13/04/2017 14:55

I don't know if the problem will go away entirely for a long while. She originally asked me to give her until Monday to quit so that she could go on less each day rather than cold turkey.

I suggested counselling but she said it's too embarrassing and doesn't want to, just wants to work it through together.

She's back at work on Tuesday so I'm hoping that helps distract her again and then by the time she off again the temptation dies down.

We'll see I guess...

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