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Help dealing with dw sexting

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Wellyboots86 · 12/04/2017 07:50

Hi everyone,

My dw and I have been together for nearly 16 years now, met as 15yo and neither of us had any real relationships prior to meeting up (nothing longer than a year). We are the same age.

Like all couples we've had ups and downs over the years, for me the worst bit was a one night stand she had at uni aged 18/19 which I forgave long ago. Only bring this up as what I'm about to discuss has brought the memory back.

We have 2 ds and had a difficult time with #2 being 5 weeks early and subsequent health issue for him (all better now). In hindsight I think we both went through a period of depression over this. Like a lot of couples, sex disappeared after having #2 (until recently only 1 "fooling around" session in about 6m) and some of this is down to juggling young family, work and basically being too tired to do anything by the time ds x2 are asleep.

We've both said recently about needing to make a bit more effort towards each other sexually as we take each other for granted in that way, 15 yrs together and sex is still important to us but not essential.

So backstory over, here's my dilemma....

Shortly after talking about making more effort with each other, dw and I slept together for the first time in ages and it was amazing, felt really connected to her again and both very happy.

Then the next day I was using her phone to check Facebook (I don't have an account and we've shared hers for years) when I noticed an app I've never seen before in a folder with random stuff she never uses. Opened it and it was a chat room app where she had been talking dirty to a few guys! I only had a few seconds to take it in as she came back into the room so I closed it again and said nothing as wanted to wait for her to be in the bathroom etc to have a better look. She was on her phone a lot that night which is unusual as she normally uses iPad and I guess subconsciously this is what made me use phone not iPad for checking Facebook. When it came to bedtime I tried to take up some stuff for her as usual, including phone and she made excuse to keep it. When she came up and went to bathroom I checked again and she'd deleted app but I found a few topless pics in her deleted folder of photo album. Confronted her about it and she said that it had only been going on a few days, she planned on stopping anyway, was bored when I'm at work during the weekend (and joked she was fed up of watching peppa pig) and apologised. I went to sleep downstairs and she sent a lovely text saying how bad she felt and begging forgiveness.

Next couple of days were a bit awkward as we discussed it a few times but agreed to move on and things felt a lot better, we seemed closer and both genuinely in a better headspace. I had said that I can move on as long as it stops.

Then on Friday when she was in the shower after we'd been intimate again, I got a burst of paranoia and checked phone to find she had searched for the app again (nothing on phone and I know it was a new search as I'd put Spotify on phone that morning for her). Said nothing, went to sleep having closed App Store. In the morning (after I'd been up a few hours with eldest ds) she came downstairs as I needed to go to work and I checked phone again, she'd obviously been back on again whilst I was downstairs! Again said nothing as we were in really good place (apart from me inside).

Sunday after work I asked her if there was anything to tell me and she said no, told her I knew she was still going online and she admitted that she was and found it a confidence boost (she has always been conscious about weight) as well as just chatting normally (not just sexy talk) as we don't have any close friends and sometimes when I'm working she feels isolated from the world.

I told her that I could understand (genuinely can) and said what hurt more was her hiding it still by waiting for me to go to work and then deleting app. I said that if it was helping her confidence, helping us be more intimate and helping her be happier then I could forgive and as long as she just left app on phone rather than sneaking around, I'd overlook it. Asked her to stick to chat not pics though and she agreed to just Facebook type pics not sexual.

It's now Wednesday morning and I know that she has been on several times a day since Sunday (I've checked a few times despite her keeping phone close to her). I've read a lot of the chat and it is a mix of normal talk like movies etc but there are a few guys where the dirty talk is pretty full on and (worse imo) she has been sneaking off a few times to take more pics (which I've seen - not as raunchy but still one topless one).

My real issue is this - it is obviously making her happy and has helped improve things in both our day to day relationship as well as massively sparking our sex life. I have zero worries ATM about her doing anything physical as she is telling people she's got a partner and lives 50 odd miles away from where we actually live. I don't want to keep confronting her as she'll know I'm looking and hide things again and also I genuinely want her to be happy. She is a teacher and as it's half term now I think she will "calm down a bit" once back at work as won't have as much free time.

The question is, am I doing the right thing by letting her have some "harmless" fun online as it is clearly helping her (and us) reconnect after a hard year? I don't want to drive a wedge between us again and admittedly it is a bit of a turn on sometimes but the sneaking off to take pics as well as her being up late at night sexting (when she gets up for the loo) is still bothering me a lot. Also, it's only been going on for just over a week so am I just being over sensitive/justifiably so still as it's so fresh and need to give it until she's back at work to properly assess the extent of the problem?

Sorry for the ramble!

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Cricrichan · 13/04/2017 09:17

Ferdinand??? Did you just make everything up?

Op you sound absolutely lovely and your deposit wants to have her cake and eat it! I think that you have to be more assertive both in the boundaries of your relationship and in steering your relationship back on course. Start socialising more together, start doing a joint hobby or a sport or join a gym together. Do something that takes you both away from the kids and having fun together.

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Cricrichan · 13/04/2017 09:17

Deposit = dw

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Wellyboots86 · 13/04/2017 09:28

Critic has - thanks, I've suggested date nights and things to try and get back on track which she likes the idea of but the problem is getting someone to have the kids as nearest family are over an hour and a half away which rules out anything regular at the moment.

We had a mini chat this morning (first one in a few days where I haven't cried) and we seem to want the same end goal. She said that she will try and stop chatting but that it will not happen overnight and that it has already started getting a bit boring

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Wellyboots86 · 13/04/2017 09:29

Sorry cricrichan stupid autocorrect

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LoveDeathPrizes · 13/04/2017 09:29

Welly Really? Jesus!

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LoveDeathPrizes · 13/04/2017 09:32

Okay, DH. I'll try to stop but it will be really hard is akin to saying "hmm. I really like men wanking off to the dirty things I say. It's worth hurting you over but god, if I have to, then I'll have a half-arsed go at giving it up."

No! You transgress, you get caught, you realise just how much you're hurting the person you love and you stop, immediately, with a fuck tonne of remourse!

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Wellyboots86 · 13/04/2017 09:36

I know I know lovedeathprizes but this is the closest I've gotten so far to her quitting outright. I think what she's hoping is that she can still chat normally and avoid all the other stuff (which of course is probably impossible).

I really shocked her last night when I threatened divorce and a massive custody fight and I think this is the start of her realising how much she's fucked up and is looking for a way to deal with it before I leave her.

If I'm honest I think she's addicted to it and that's why she's said it'll be hard to go cold turkey

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LoveDeathPrizes · 13/04/2017 09:37

Incidentally, already getting a bit boring doesn't equal regret and remorse. It signals a need to step up the stakes. What a stubborn reason to stop. It's like she can't concede to stopping because of you!

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IsNotGold · 13/04/2017 09:40

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Wellyboots86 · 13/04/2017 09:41

She has been honest enough to say she still has a deep love for me but isn't "loved up" anymore and that the normal day to day grind is what made her start it all.

I do believe her when she says about all the things she wants to do in the future and that we are front and centre during it its just hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel right now.

She could genuinely stop immediately and I still wouldn't believe her for a long time, that mistrust would be counterproductive to us trying to rebuild but understandable

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LoveDeathPrizes · 13/04/2017 09:44

I think she's taking the piss.

No couple with kids hasn't felt that daily grind, but resorting to sex chat is a choice. As is lying and continuing to break the agreed boundaries of your marriage.

It's great that you're being so empathic but she's walking all over you.

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LoveDeathPrizes · 13/04/2017 09:46

I doubt she's addicted but even if she is, so what? Is it better for a man to be addicted to prostitutes than visit them infrequently out of choice?

Don't diminish her input into this by reasoning that it's passive and entirely reactive.

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Wellyboots86 · 13/04/2017 09:50

I'm working myself up to say to her that my final compromise to help her through it and start to move on is to say that passcode comes off phone and I have access to chat room whenever I ask whatever time of day. If I see that it's just normal chatting for outside world contact then ok but if I see anything else then bye bye!

I know this is probably weak of me and if she wants to hide it she still could but maybe the random checks would stop this as she never know when it was safe?

I'll admit, I don't think she will agree to it and that probably tells me all I need to know but I desperately want to find a way past this that doesn't leave us both hating the other (stupid of me I know)

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Wellyboots86 · 13/04/2017 09:52

She's said so many times that if I push things constantly or appear to be on her shoulder 24/7 that she can't deal with it so I'm reluctant as I badly want this to work out but maybe she's just using that as an excuse to carry on with the power?

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LoveDeathPrizes · 13/04/2017 09:55

Yeah that's not very healthy but I think it might be worth asking just to gauge her reaction.

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LoveDeathPrizes · 13/04/2017 09:57

If she's so averse to you not trusting her, maybe don't shag other men or host a cyber sausage fest.

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Wellyboots86 · 13/04/2017 09:57

My big problem is wanting to trust again but needing proof that it's not misplaced. This in turn makes her feel like she's not trusted and constantly under scrutiny which isn't helpful for either of us

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LoveDeathPrizes · 13/04/2017 09:59

No. But she needs to own that. That's on her. Or leave.

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Wellyboots86 · 13/04/2017 10:03

I feel like that would help as over time I wouldn't feel the need to check in her if I'm seeing the truth whenever I ask.

She says she's too embarrassed to go to counselling as she will feel like she's being judged (which to be fair she is) so this seems like a good way round that to me but then I'm not the one hiding things

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noitsnotme · 13/04/2017 10:04

So what IS she prepared to do to save her marriage?

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LoveDeathPrizes · 13/04/2017 10:06

It sucks though, Welly to be the one always checking. It feels controlling and you'll feel bitter that you've become someone you're not.

If you can stick it out then fine but you'll always be wondering. It would be a lot more promising if she seemed genuinely willing to change but given what you've said, I wouldn't trust her either.

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Wellyboots86 · 13/04/2017 10:09

I just can't decide if she's being secretive/standoffish out of guilt/fear I'll leave or if it's because she just doesn't want to be the one that ends things and wants me to have the burden of splitting up the family.

Part of me can understand her not wanting me looking all the time as I'd feel trapped too if she was always asking for my phone but then she should surely expect it for a while after what she's done?

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LoveDeathPrizes · 13/04/2017 10:11

You've been married a while. Is there such a distance between you that this stubborn/ defensive/ righteous kind of stance she's taking is her normal response to conflict? Does she ever show any vulnerability?

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hellogirlies · 13/04/2017 10:18

you should probably think about whether your children would like to find this out, as they probably will somehow.

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