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Am I overreacting about my bf groping me in public

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user1486897010 · 04/03/2017 16:44

Hi.
My bf who is father of my dd keeps touching my tits in public. Today we went shopping and he had his arm around me and was just cupping one of my boobs. I don't know if I'm overreacting but I just get a bit embarrassed from anyone walking past and seeing it. If i try to move his hand away he complains and gets all grumpy and just says he is showing me afection. It happens quite a bit. Either my boobs or bum. I've told him before i don't really like It in public and he stops for a bit but always goes back to doing it. He also complains that is it because I'm ashamed of him. And I'm not. But maybe I am just being silly. Sorry for the long post. Do you think I should mention it to him? What should I do?

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cestlavielife · 16/03/2017 10:23

is he going to stop groping you and stop videoing you and stop telling you what to wear?

or is he just going to cook for a week and still carry on?

AttilaTheMeerkat · 16/03/2017 10:24

Do not bring another child into this abusive relationship whatever you decide to do. At least you are not planning on becoming pregnant by him.

Your so called friend really did give you some duff advice there didn't she?. Also she does not have to live with him day to day, you have seen the full stark reality of that existence and you still want to give him another chance.

Your boundaries have been ground down to almost nothing by this individual which makes me think he actively targeted you in the first place. Life at home was undoubtedly crap on many levels and from the little you have written about your childhood you had no father figure around. That has not at all helped you either.

How many chances and excuses have you made for him already?. He doing some housework for you in the short term is not going to cut it, he has truly done a number on you. Your poor decision making will only serve further to hurt your child and you.

Dontwaketheneighbours · 16/03/2017 10:25

I can appreciate you're confused, it seems like you're only just realising that is behaviour is so utterly utterly wrong and incredibly disrespectful. It must be a lot to come to terms with.

Next time he insists you give him a BJ maybe you should remind him that you have teeth! Wink just a thought OP

AssassinatedBeauty · 16/03/2017 10:25

I'd expect him to show he has changed for a very long time before I believed it, at least 6 months to a year. It's too easy for him to spend a week or two being "nice" just long enough to sucker you in again.

All his vile behaviour needs to permanently stop. He needs to pull his weight around the house, not "help" you but do his fair share, without needing reminding or persuading. Do you think he will do that for the next 6 months to a year?

AttilaTheMeerkat · 16/03/2017 10:28

Tell me OP what you think love is in relation to him. Describe it to me.

stephenisjustcoming · 16/03/2017 10:33

Do NOT let him take charge of contraception. Leaving with one baby is hard but dobable - leaving with two, when you're exhausted, have no money because you're not working, utterly dependent on him in so many ways, will be so much harder. Which is, of course, what he's banking on.

Oh, OP. Please talk to Women's Aid rather than this 'friend'. If you'd spoken to her when he first started 'honking' your tits (ugh, how old is he?!), then a second chance might have been appropriate. Now he's shared pornography of you without your consent, assaulted you in public, co-erced you into sexual activity when you didn't want to, demeaned you in front of his awful, leering friends, and taken your DD's child benefit... this would be his nine hundredth chance. Most of those things aren't just reasons to leave a bad relationship, OP, they're actually illegal.

Quartz2208 · 16/03/2017 10:34

Did you address the groping, the picking clothes, the nightly expectation of sex at all it seems to be housework based

stephenisjustcoming · 16/03/2017 10:34

Oh, and he's going on holiday with his mates. Not you and his DD. Says it all.

Dontwaketheneighbours · 16/03/2017 10:38

I didn't see the bit about the housework. Is this really the big issue, OP? Surely he needs to apologise for and promise to stop - making you dress up/ sending pics and vids - to give his sleazy mates good wank fodder.

Not that I'd believe a word that came out of his mouth. He's clearly got deep rooted issues about the way he views women. But as I said before, I can appreciate you being confused if this is all coming as a bit of a shock to you, that most men do not behave like this, and indeed would be as equally disgusted by his behaviour.

I'd say good luck, but I think no amount of luck will help you escape this rat-bastard, not until you are able to see him for what he really is.

Quartz2208 · 16/03/2017 10:54

Thinking about it of course he cried, you are there on tap for him, cooking cleaning sex. And what does he do in return nothing, he goes out with us mates, he goes on holiday with his mates, he gets the advantages of relationship and a single life and none of the negatives.

Is this what women expect nowadays, and men do have we gone back to the 50s

Forager · 16/03/2017 10:57

I think this is definitely one occasion where no amount of posting on our part is going to help. The OP is only going to learn by living it and coming out the other side. She still doesn't get that what she's described him doing is so NOT normal.

Good luck, because you'll need it.

stephenisjustcoming · 16/03/2017 10:59

The fact that he thinks your distress is down to doing too much of the housework - and that can be sorted by him cooking for a week - should tell you he's not going to change. Not ever. He might be crying but he doesn't get what it is that you're so upset about.

If he can't see that your distress is down to being treated like a sex toy, something he can grope and fuck and share with his mates, how is anything going to change? Will you be happy about him grabbing your pussy in Tesco as long as he's put a lasagne in the oven when you get home?

You're worth so much more than this, OP. This is not how normal men behave at ALL.

HelenaGWells · 16/03/2017 11:00

Holding your hand in public is affectionate, telling you nice things is affectionate. squeezing your arse and boobs is a crude and lewd display of ownership and dominance. It's macho man bullshit bravado like he's trying to say look how great am I this woman lets me be sexual with her.

If you have told him not do it and he continues it is full on sexual assault. Personally that would be a deal breaker for me.

Is he going on holiday with you and your child as well? Or is he spending the whole holiday fund on a piss up with the lads? If it's the later that is incredibly selfish as well.

Honesty ask yourself what GOOD things he does. If you work part time even if he works full time he should be doing some of the household chores. He should also be doing some childcare in evenings and weekends.

A relationship is supposed to be two sided. It one person who does whatever they like and sulks like a child if the other objects. A relationship should also never involve one person touching another In a way they object to.

Stormtreader · 16/03/2017 11:16

Youre just his dog.
Youve gotten a bit sulky so hes going to give you a week of extra walks and biscuits, but dont think for a second that youll stop just being his pet.

GlitteryFluff · 16/03/2017 11:19

Do you believe him op?
Do you think he can change?
Do you think he can stop doing the things you don't like?
Will he stop recording you and sharing it?
Will he stop groping you?
Will he have a wank instead of pressuring you to have sex with him or a bj?

Do you really think all that will change because you spoke to him and he cried?

pinkyredrose · 16/03/2017 11:24

OP he's obviously saying what he thinks you want to hear so that you don't leave and he carries on getting meals cooked and sex on tap. I give him a wk if that. In fact he's already lining you up to not expect that much from him with his declaration that he'll cook for a WEEK! And after that? What happens then?

theansweris42 · 16/03/2017 11:26

Lots of replies OP, lots of different styles...please don't be scared away.
Post when you need to.
Post your thoughts.
attila asked an interesting question about love...

mummabubs · 16/03/2017 11:43

Personally I think others have hit the nail on the head- he thinks the issue is that you want him to cook more, not stop sexually assaulting you. This also rings a lot of what others have said in that when the partner thinks they're going to lose you they will ramp up the charm offensive and promise all sorts of things- whatever they think will convince you to stay. This is a pattern I know all too well, and I can promise you that he's had chances, many of them, and nothing so far has convinced him to change so what is it about this time that will make him change? From his perspective he's learnt over time that all he has to do is say he'll change and that will keep you there for a while longer. X

SarcasmMode · 16/03/2017 11:49

I'm sorry to be rude but you're an idiot to give him another chance when he's sent pictures like that to his friends.

You have no self respect.

I worry so much for your DD as well as you.

ConferencePear · 16/03/2017 11:57

What kind of friends share pornographic images of their wives ? Are any other wives/girlfriends used in this way ?
Not a bunch of friends I would want anything to do with.

picklemepopcorn · 16/03/2017 12:04

You also need a new friend whose expectations are a bit higher too. Sorry.

I'm out, because the scar tissue left by cherrycrumblepie is starting to itch.

Good luck op.

Twingler · 16/03/2017 12:06

Ok OP. You know everyone here just wants to help you, right? It's not that surprising that you are confused. Of course you WANT to believe him. It unfortunately doesn't mean that anything he's said is true. I don't know whether you've done this, but take a look at the relationship boards and look at the threads where women have come on and admitted they are being abused. Especially the long running ones where the posters are further along the journey, or the posters who keep coming back and nothing has changed. You start to see a pattern. You'll see it and you'll recognise that it's happening to you too. Just keep quietly reading and you'll gradually see it. People here are predicting that he won't change because they've seen it play out a thousand times before. I know it's a new way of viewing things and a new way of thinking for you, so it will take time.

Leaving seems so impossible, doesn't it? As though your whole world is imploding. I've left two bad relationships (though neither anywhere near as bad as the things you've described) and it was hard. The first one was my son's dad. I was 19 when I fell pregnant and he was very controlling in some ways. I didn't ever leave his side or do anything without him. He told me he wanted a dna test because I was such a fucking slag that he couldn't guarantee the baby was his. Nothing could have been further from the truth. I was literally never away from him. He was sacked for getting into a fight at work while I was pregnant, so I was with him every hour of the day. He sometimes used to choke me when we had sex (which I often didn't want but went along with because I couldn't bear the sulking). He used to tell me things to say to him during sex, things a woman in porn would say. I caught him touching me as I was sleeping. And then he coerced me into having sex with him two weeks after I'd given birth and had the nerve to complain that my stitches had rubbed him. He tried to push me down the stairs while I was holding my son. Not a real intentional push, but shoving me with his shoulder in a temper. He knew exactly what he was doing. That was because he'd been reminded that i'd had a boyfriend before him. Not even a discussion about the bloke, just the knowledge that i'd been with someone else. In between all that, he was nice. It took me over a year to split up with him. He came round crying and I took him back because I felt guilty, as though I was ruining my son's life. It took another 6 months before I left him again and the sheer RELIEF knowing that I meant it for definite this time and he was gone for good was amazing. He's still a spectacularly shit dad to my son now.

The second one wasn't like that. It was more... Psychological and emotional. Had me jumping through hoops and changing my personality to please him. I was with him for quite a few years. He cheated on me and it was somehow my fault and I had to win him over. He texted other women, then just covered his tracks better when I found out. I found a lot of messages to female 'friends' where they slagged me off and he told lies about me and laughed at me. This had been going on our entire relationship and I had no idea. I found messages dated when we'd just got together, before we'd had sex, where he was laughing about me with another woman saying I probably had a loose vagina and it would feel shit and she laughed and agreed. I found that he'd sent a photo of me to his male friends talking about how disgustingly skinny I was. This was the total opposite of what he was saying to me at the time. He intentionally used to look at pictures of stick thin supermodels in front of me and talk about weight and how much more attractive thin people were. My weight fluctuated between 8 and 8.5 stone at the time. As a result of his bullying, I starved myself and weighed less than 7 stone. Which he then slagged me off to his friends for. It took me years to leave. I felt that he could change and that I just had to show him that it was wrong to treat me that way. He always said the right things. One day I had a lightbulb moment where I realised that I shouldn't have to teach somebody not to treat me like shit and he was the one person who was supposed to make me feel special and good about myself. This realisation hit me out of the blue one afternoon as we walked back from the cinema. I told him exactly those thoughts and suggested that he pack his things and leave. And I never saw him again after that afternoon! That was a really pivotal moment for me when I realised that I deserve to be treated well. I still think back on that moment now and feel so happy that I finally took control and stood up for myself.

Your friend has given you some bad advice, I'm afraid. Were you as honest as you have been on here? It's so much harder to say the terrible things face to face than anonymously online, where it's not going to have a real impact on your life. I can remember coming on here and starting a thread about my ex (under a different name) and arguing when they all said I should leave him, adamant that they had all got it wrong and it would be fine. I hadn't even told them any of the really bad stuff and they told me to dump him. They were right, of course. I wasn't ready to hear it then, but it stayed in my mind and set me thinking and gradually I began to see it. Your friend might not realise just how bad this situation is. Or she might be another person who thinks this is normal. But that is one voice against all of the people here telling you it is wrong. And the law is on your side. What he is doing is A CRIME. Don't think that you can't leave because of money. I was a single parent living in benefits after I left my son's dad. So much better than being with him. And do not have another baby with this piece of shit!!!!

Don't feel that you can't come back here and post because you've decided to stay. If (or more likely when) it goes wrong, you can get some more advice. Please be careful and think about what everyone has said to you.

Pollyanna9 · 16/03/2017 12:11

Presumably OP as part of the 'new him' when you sit him down tonight to go through his phone (tablet, laptop and computer too if he has them) in order to delete every photo\video of you, he'll be 100% happy to comply with that will he?

I think you should test him on that this very evening and see what his reaction is. if it's anything less than total compliance with your wishes on the matter then you'll know if it's worth continuing or not. ANY shred of argument, it's not fair, you're upsetting me I love those pictures of you, then he's already wriggling out of his [fake] promise to change.

gaaahhhh · 16/03/2017 12:29

Speak to woman's aid and see if they agree with you OP.
Or talk to your mum? If you have fallen out with your mum , is it because of your boyfriend? Won't she help you just to leave at least?

What did your aunt say? Crying is the oldest trick in the book. Listen to the people!

I agree with the poster above. If he's really changed, (sorry but it's doubtful)now is the time to confront him about the photos. Say you want them all deleted. Together.

legalcheek789 · 16/03/2017 12:49

Not trying to be rude but you're showing him a lot more loyalty than I'm sure he would ever bother to show you. Judging by his attitude towards women and your history, sorry OP, but it's only a matter of time before he finds someone 'prettier' 'bigger boobs' 'skinnier' 'easier to control', someone else to parade around in front of his friends or doesn't care as much about public groping.

All you're really doing is giving him the last laugh, it's a shame you can't see it, even after all these people have told you so. I'm so sorrry for your DD that has to see it, what a teribble example for her. Don't ask for advice unless you're willing to accept the advice given.

Wishing you all the best regardless, I hope you can see it with a bit more clarity when you're ready.