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How to tell him I want to postpone wedding

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FrugalFot · 02/02/2017 09:27

Hi,
I'm new here and I am looking for advice on how to tell my fiancé that I want to postpone the wedding but doing it in a way that is not going to be 'jilting'.

It's all about money really and I know that shouldn't be a factor if you want to get married but I feel under a lot of pressure.
About a 18 months ago, I went freelance. At the time my parents were really supportive, particularly my dad and he lent me the money to buy my expensive camera equipment and I gave up my rented flat in a city I loved to move back in with them rent free while I got on my feet.

Meanwhile my boyfriend was living and working in another city and he was buying a house. He had much more savings then meas he bought and sold a house with a really good profit and his jobs have been higher paid. I've been paid peanuts to learn my craft so to speak, plus he's 7 years older so more advanced in his career.

He asked me to move in andat first Isaid I couldn't because I wasn't really earning a profit yet. He said he'd put me down in his mortgage application as an additional ÂŁ400 a month income and he thought that was a reasonableamount to expect from mebut he understood if I couldn't pay that straight away.

And he said that we would probably save ÂŁ400 a month in traveling back and to and meeting halfway to go out. And he pointed out, I'd be there all the time anyway, which was true as much as my work is in his city.

And he was right, I was, so I agreed as I didn't want to take advantagebut after a couple of months he started to get cross if I couldn't give him the ÂŁ400 yet.I was still getting money pretty sparodically.And then my dad was getting cross with me if I couldn't pay him any money towards the loan. And I couldn't tell him I was struggling as we had rowed about it when I said I was moving out.

Since then, I've been constantly worried about money and it's wearing me down and I can't sleep or talk to anyone. I've got myself in a mess.

Six months after I moved in, he surprised me for my birthday with a trip to Paris and proposed and I said yes. But the pressure's just mounted. Paris was expensive and I didn't have loads of money to spend as I hadn't been expecting it, so on the last day we had to share a lunch between us and I felt awful.

Because I'd got my engagement ring for my birthday, he hinted he'd like a playstation for his and I just couldn't afford it and he was really disappointed. When I got my first pretty big cheque I wanted to go to IKEA to buy a desk and a chair and it ended in a row that I didn't buy anything for the house.

Anyway, in the last year, things have really picked up for me and I'm doing well, but money-wise I just can't keep up with everything and I still have no clothes and no highlights in my hair.

The wedding is in August and things are getting serious. My BF took voluntary redundancy from his job and got quite a big payoff. I encouraged him to as he had been unhappy and said if worse came to the worse, we could do some work together (both creative fields).

He hasn't had any work to speak of and his redundancy money is dwindling and he is getting cross about it. And he blames me a little bit. He says I persuaded him, but I thought I was just being encouraging and supportive. I get annoued when I go out on a morning job and come back just before lunch and he's still in bed.

My dad has given us ÂŁ5,000 towards the wedding, which we decided to use on just an amazing trip away as he wanted to get married abroad. The deposit's already been paid. I wanted to be with friends and family so we compromised on a small civil ceremony and party here. But the costs for this are mounting. To try and make up for it, so it's not all about me, and because I've got the nice ring, my BF wanted to get a tailor-made suit which is costing a lot and I went for a really cheap dress but I hate it.

I am an eternal optimist and I always think the money will come in from this big job soon, but it never comes in time and I'm worried.

I feel like it's all a mess, but I feel so responsible, like I got us here and I don't know what to do.

OP posts:
Cricrichan · 02/02/2017 12:07

*leave not live

SoFeckingCross · 02/02/2017 12:15

Paris was expensive and I didn't have loads of money to spend as I hadn't been expecting it, so on the last day we had to share a lunch between us and I felt awful

You know that strangely stood out to me too, surely if you're taking someone away on a surprise weekend you don't assume that the other person will have any money with them; or am I really unrealistic?

It feel like he's expecting you to anticipate problems and solve them before they happen. Like blaming you for him taking redundancy, if he'd walked in to the job of his dreams would you get any praise for supporting him?

Anyway seriously he sounds horrible, please at least postpone the wedding.

MusterTheRohirim · 02/02/2017 12:23

I think it's quite mature to admit you got swept up and recognise it before the wedding. Imagine waking up the day after and realising. If you feel like this it's definitely wise to cancel - you don't have to marry him, and you sound like you don't want to deep down. Best of luck.

gigi556 · 02/02/2017 12:25

Get out. Making you walk home 8 miles is emotional abuse. Google and read up on the signs. You've already received quite a bit of sensible advice here and I'm not sure I have more to add. Stop making excuses for your fiancé. He's reasonable. Why would you pay for anything on a trip to Paris that was a surprise?! My partner and I discuss our finance openly and split things based on our percentage contribution to our household income...

Miserylovescompany2 · 02/02/2017 12:31

It's ALL about him...if he's like this now prior to exchanging those vows, he'll be a WHOLE lot worse after.

Take back control of your life and back the hell outta there...

You are merely seen as an EXTRA in on his show.

Gallavich · 02/02/2017 12:48

Your instincts are screaming at you not to marry him. I honestly can't state this clearly enough - listen to them. Do not marry him because you think his good side will balance it out, or because it would be embarrassing to call it off, or because money has been spent. Please. I'm 10 years older than you and I got married at 26, I lost so much to that marriage and I should have listened to my instincts. I regret it all the time.

prettywhiteguitar · 02/02/2017 12:55

Your first clue to run was when he tied you down to a payment on the house (his house) and then got cross when you didn't fulfill what he wanted from you.

Run !

mummytime · 02/02/2017 12:58

Just to add RUN!

Okay your "surprise trip to Paris". So he whisks you off to Paris, but you run out of money as you weren't expecting it? Does that mean during the surprise trip to Paris that he organised - you were still paying 50-50? That is not a surprise treat!
A treat means you pay.
An engagement ring is not a birthday present!

He sounds incredibly mean. And money is at the root of more divorces than adultery.
Go home and get rid of this sponger (because that is what he is, pressuring you for money to subsidise his choices). Its not wonder your parents don't like him. I know it might be embarrassing, especially confessing about your finances - but it will be so much better in the long term.

Silentplikebath · 02/02/2017 13:05

My DC are around your age and I would be so worried if one of them was planning to marry someone who didn't always treat them with respect and kindness. I'm sure your parents will be supportive once you tell them how you feel. My guess is that they will both say immediately that they think you are doing the right thing by calling off the wedding.

FrugalFot · 02/02/2017 13:16

Just having a break while waiting for people and having a little read. I'm really shocked by all the responses but when I think about it I don't know why.

It just had never occurred to me to consider leaving, just to postpone and try and make things better. Maybe it's because my mum, my dad, and my two older sisters all married their childhood sweethearts or their first serious relationship and I think I'm just of the mind-set that when you're in a relationship and you're committed that's what you do, you work it out.

And now things are being pointed out, I'm thinking about other things that fit in.

Like the night he proposed he said wanted to get married so I couldn't leave and when I choked on my prosecco at that he said "no, no that sounded awful, I mean that in the past relationships end because you don't try to work things out but if you're married you have to work things out and I always want to work things out with you" and in my head that sounded like just his daft way of trying to say something romantic, but it jars really.

There was also another incident when he got really drunk and he thought I was asleep. I wasn't but I'd had a few drinks as well so I was just a bit 'in and out' dozing. He tripped up and hurt himself and because I didn't wake up to see if he was OK, when he got in bed, he was talking to me when he thought I was asleep and he was having a go at me for not helping him and called me a bitch!

And the Paris thing - he'd told me we were going away for a few days (not where) and if I could to try and take about ÂŁ150 with me for spends. When my ÂŁ150 ran out and his budget ran out, we shared a lunch between us. And I felt bad I didn't have more money, but I knew he has more money and he also has savings etc. I was torn between feeling guilty and wondering why he didn't just pay for two lunches and then feeling more guilty because I should have just been grateful he'd brought me here and proposed and it had all been wonderful.

And reading all that, everyone is going to wonder what on earth I'm doing with him, but I promise you, a lot of the time it is lovely and happy.

I do know what you are all saying though, I'm going to come back and read it all again more slowly later. Thank you so much for all your replies

OP posts:
Miserylovescompany2 · 02/02/2017 13:20

He told you exactly who he is whilst he thought you were sleeping...

FrugalFot · 02/02/2017 13:22

yeah misery, I am beginning to see that now

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MrDacresEUSubsidy · 02/02/2017 13:25

There was also another incident when he got really drunk and he thought I was asleep. I wasn't but I'd had a few drinks as well so I was just a bit 'in and out' dozing. He tripped up and hurt himself and because I didn't wake up to see if he was OK, when he got in bed, he was talking to me when he thought I was asleep and he was having a go at me for not helping him and called me a bitch!

Did you post about this before? This sounds so familiar - and if you are the same poster then the advice hasn't changed. LEAVE!

I mean that in the past relationships end because you don't try to work things out but if you're married you have to work things out

Utter bollocks. Nothing compels anyone to stay in a marriage if they really don't want to. One of the strongest couples I know, who have been through all sorts of shit, aren't married. A marriage certificate doesn't automatically mean you HAVE to work things out - if that was true then nobody would ever get divorced, would they?

It's also rather chilling that his rationale for marrying you is to have the weight of a commitment to sort out problems. Why isn't he marrying you because he loves you? Rather than marrying you because it means that you'll have to muddle through regardless. I suspect his initial statement that it means you won't leave, is truer than you think. I also suspect you know this but are probably trying to ignore the misgivings, but that as your wedding approaches it's getting harder and harder to do so.

Everyone is going to wonder what on earth I'm doing with him, but I promise you, a lot of the time it is lovely and happy.

Is that because you are busy keeping the peace and suppressing your own needs, wants and personality. I'd be lovely too if I was getting my own way all the time.

Kr1stina · 02/02/2017 13:29

He took you to Paris for a romantic weekend and proposee, but said needed to contribute ÂŁ150 ? And then said you were getting an engagement ring instead of a birthday present and you needed to pay him back with a PS4?

Toffeelatteplease · 02/02/2017 13:34

Please run

It only gets worse and your head gets even more muddled and he will make sure there are more and more ties that make it seem harder and harder to leave. Don't have children with him else it is virtually impossible to escape

He's isolated you and made you feel more and more inadequate.

He is not a nice man

Tobelostwithjinjackandsawyer · 02/02/2017 13:36

The man you want to marry should make you feel loved and cherished, not make you feel like crap.
Rethink the wedding whilst you can!

SoFeckingCross · 02/02/2017 13:40

I'm sure a lot of the time it is lovely and happy, if there weren't good times you'd have no hesitation in leaving.

Once you start looking at your relationship more critically, more and more events will take on different meaning.

I found this interesting: Maybe it's because my mum, my dad, and my two older sisters all married their childhood sweethearts or their first serious relationship and I think I'm just of the mind-set that when you're in a relationship and you're committed that's what you do, you work it out.

I bet ÂŁ100 he knows this is your attitude, and thats a strong reason for him to want to marry, he wants to tie you down after all he did tell you remember...

Run now

CockacidalManiac · 02/02/2017 13:44

He sounds scary; do not attach yourself to him. Imagine how controlling he'll be once you're married.
I'm another one who's saying run away from him.

CockacidalManiac · 02/02/2017 13:45

Everyone is going to wonder what on earth I'm doing with him, but I promise you, a lot of the time it is lovely and happy.

Abusive people aren't monsters all of the time. They'd be easy to spot if they were.

Lilyargin · 02/02/2017 13:49

Hello Frugal, it must be pretty overwhelming to get this many replies, and every single one of them is saying the same thing. Not one person has suggested any other advice than getting out of this - and the advice resonates with your gut instinct.
I really hope you act on it.

MelOrSue · 02/02/2017 14:12

OP, It sounds like this isn't a great relationship. You are only 27 and have the rest of your life in front of you. I wouldn't relish the thought of spending my life with someone with whom you can't communicate well with and who seems a controlling. If you think it's tricky negotiating with him now how hard do you think it will be once there are kids involved (if you are considering kids). Do you really want your future children to have a 'grumpy' father?

I think you should leave too. Personally I wouldn't bother analyzing it too much or trying to demonize him, I'd just take the view it's not working out and you want to leave.

If it makes it easier I don't actually think it's fair to him to go ahead and stay with him let alone marry him if you feel this way. I obviously don't care about him but it might make you feel better if you think you are doing it in his interests as well as your own.

You have to be honest with yourself.

Good luck. It's not easy. Flowers

MelOrSue · 02/02/2017 14:13

Sorry for typos

AgathaF · 02/02/2017 15:32

I mean that in the past relationships end because you don't try to work things out but if you're married you have to work things out - does he have a few failed relationships? What happened in them, do you know?

He just sounds so utterly self-absorbed, and controlling too. Add manipulative into that mix. He's not looking out for you, caring for you as he should be doing.

Is he older than you? I thought you'd mentioned that somewhere but can't find where. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with age difference relationships, but I just wonder in his case if getting married is more of a tick box exercise that he has to fulfill? Because he just doesn't sound like he wants to marry you because he loves you so much, rather that it's something to be done, to hold on to a relationship, to fulfill the big wedding box, to get the flash honeymoon etc. Whether or not it's what you want.

FrugalFot · 02/02/2017 16:51

I'm back, thanks again for all your replies

I'm starting to feel like a bit of a fool, so all your advice that this is not healthy or good are definitely sinking in. And then at the same time I'm worried that what melorsue said is right and I might be demonising him because I'm fed up, so I'm reading my posts back and trying to see if there's anything in there that I've exaggerated in anyway to make myself look better. I don't think there is.

I'll try and answer all the questions I can, might help be get a bit more clarity myself. Sorry if I don't mention everybody who asked stuff.

atilla his dad was diagnosed with a terminal illness and he and his GF of about 10 years broke up and he took it all really badly.

I don't know exactly the circumstances of their split, he's said it was more a growing apart and lack of anything physical. But they were discussing breaking up and then his dad got the diagnosis and he decided he really want to make things work with her but she said she was done.

He's mid-thirties and before her he had another long relationship with a girl from school who he went out with from about 14-21. He says the split was pretty much the same circumstances, relationship petered out, he admits he was equally to blame for taking them for granted and not making an effort. He wanted to revive the relationships, they didn't. I guess that's what he means by marriage locking you in.

I don't know why my boundaries or my bar has been so low. I've had a couple of really lovely relationships that ended amicably. My parents and my family are all in happy marriages. I think maybe it's just because it's 'him'.

I met him through work and coincidentally my mum also knew him through her work (his company was her client) and when we first met on a project, the various people working on it really got on well. The mutual friends we have are all through work so they actually don't really know us that well do they. He is really respected at work and is really good at what he does, I looked up to him and found it really attractive. When I first met him I fancied him but after a few years those feelings had petered out and I just had a lot of time for him. He used me as a bit of a shoulder to cry on.

I should add my circle of friends outside work don't really know him, we live quite far away. At first he made an effort with them but another frustration lately is that he doesn't really ever want to come out and I still do.

I don't get chance to let my hair down much as I do work really hard and long hours. And I'm trying to learn and get better at the same time. I'll often stay up in the early hours doing online tutorials and finishing jobs and I lose track of time. He tries to get me to stop and says he's looking after my health. But it's just the way I am, I get engrossed. He gets annoyed that I like to do this rather than spend quality time with him. It's not that, it's just I don't really enjoy a night in front of the telly as I have things flying around in my head and I'd rather learn something new or do something creative.

I think he maybe had this idea of what I was and might be a bit disappointed in a few things. Silly little things like he won't let me put some of my books up on the book shelf because they are trashy and he wouldn't want other people to see them. He sees it as a bit of a challenge to 'educate' my tastes in music and make me a bit cooler.

It's a standing joke that he wants me to 'bake a cake' for when he gets home. I laugh at it because it's really not me, but I suspect that is actually just what he wants.

The night he called me a bitch and I was a bit drunk and half asleep, it sort of jolted me sober and I was like "oy" and he was really apologetic in the morning. Blamed drink. I forgave him because, well he'd apologised and I don't really do grudges so I'd honestly forgotten about it.

MrDacres no that wasn't me, I've not posted before

I feel like I want to go and speak to my mum. I think I feel a bit inadequate that my siblings are settled with responsible jobs and children and I'm running around doing my thing and not getting married. I love them all to death but they all have family gatherings while I'm elsewhere and I wonder if they despair of me a little bit.

If I think back now, when he proposed, I called my mum from Paris to tell her the news and she wasn't anywhere near as excited as I wanted her to be. I was quite upset when I got off the phone. And then when I went to see her when I got home, she didn't even ask to see my ring and I felt really hurt. It's obvious why now though isn't it?

Sorry for such a long update, I've not told anybody a lot of this and writing it down is helping.

I have taken what you've all said on board, thank you so much and sorry for the rambles

OP posts:
CockacidalManiac · 02/02/2017 17:06

If I think back now, when he proposed, I called my mum from Paris to tell her the news and she wasn't anywhere near as excited as I wanted her to be. I was quite upset when I got off the phone. And then when I went to see her when I got home, she didn't even ask to see my ring and I felt really hurt. It's obvious why now though isn't it?

Yep.

Silly little things like he won't let me put some of my books up on the book shelf because they are trashy and he wouldn't want other people to see them. He sees it as a bit of a challenge to 'educate' my tastes in music and make me a bit cooler.

Wanker.