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How to tell him I want to postpone wedding

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FrugalFot · 02/02/2017 09:27

Hi,
I'm new here and I am looking for advice on how to tell my fiancé that I want to postpone the wedding but doing it in a way that is not going to be 'jilting'.

It's all about money really and I know that shouldn't be a factor if you want to get married but I feel under a lot of pressure.
About a 18 months ago, I went freelance. At the time my parents were really supportive, particularly my dad and he lent me the money to buy my expensive camera equipment and I gave up my rented flat in a city I loved to move back in with them rent free while I got on my feet.

Meanwhile my boyfriend was living and working in another city and he was buying a house. He had much more savings then meas he bought and sold a house with a really good profit and his jobs have been higher paid. I've been paid peanuts to learn my craft so to speak, plus he's 7 years older so more advanced in his career.

He asked me to move in andat first Isaid I couldn't because I wasn't really earning a profit yet. He said he'd put me down in his mortgage application as an additional £400 a month income and he thought that was a reasonableamount to expect from mebut he understood if I couldn't pay that straight away.

And he said that we would probably save £400 a month in traveling back and to and meeting halfway to go out. And he pointed out, I'd be there all the time anyway, which was true as much as my work is in his city.

And he was right, I was, so I agreed as I didn't want to take advantagebut after a couple of months he started to get cross if I couldn't give him the £400 yet.I was still getting money pretty sparodically.And then my dad was getting cross with me if I couldn't pay him any money towards the loan. And I couldn't tell him I was struggling as we had rowed about it when I said I was moving out.

Since then, I've been constantly worried about money and it's wearing me down and I can't sleep or talk to anyone. I've got myself in a mess.

Six months after I moved in, he surprised me for my birthday with a trip to Paris and proposed and I said yes. But the pressure's just mounted. Paris was expensive and I didn't have loads of money to spend as I hadn't been expecting it, so on the last day we had to share a lunch between us and I felt awful.

Because I'd got my engagement ring for my birthday, he hinted he'd like a playstation for his and I just couldn't afford it and he was really disappointed. When I got my first pretty big cheque I wanted to go to IKEA to buy a desk and a chair and it ended in a row that I didn't buy anything for the house.

Anyway, in the last year, things have really picked up for me and I'm doing well, but money-wise I just can't keep up with everything and I still have no clothes and no highlights in my hair.

The wedding is in August and things are getting serious. My BF took voluntary redundancy from his job and got quite a big payoff. I encouraged him to as he had been unhappy and said if worse came to the worse, we could do some work together (both creative fields).

He hasn't had any work to speak of and his redundancy money is dwindling and he is getting cross about it. And he blames me a little bit. He says I persuaded him, but I thought I was just being encouraging and supportive. I get annoued when I go out on a morning job and come back just before lunch and he's still in bed.

My dad has given us £5,000 towards the wedding, which we decided to use on just an amazing trip away as he wanted to get married abroad. The deposit's already been paid. I wanted to be with friends and family so we compromised on a small civil ceremony and party here. But the costs for this are mounting. To try and make up for it, so it's not all about me, and because I've got the nice ring, my BF wanted to get a tailor-made suit which is costing a lot and I went for a really cheap dress but I hate it.

I am an eternal optimist and I always think the money will come in from this big job soon, but it never comes in time and I'm worried.

I feel like it's all a mess, but I feel so responsible, like I got us here and I don't know what to do.

OP posts:
SuperFlyHigh · 05/02/2017 12:16

I agree with everyone else, get your name off bills, collect whatever is yours (I was going to say money owed off him but best to leave that!) and look forward to a new and exciting life without him round your neck like a millstone!

If anything I think a wedding where you're BM will give you something to look forward to and I bet your bottom dollar that a few of your friends will now say they didn't think you were both suited anyway!

Totally agree re the smear campaign, if people are stupid enough to believe his lies and a second time around then more fool them. Shows him up.

But well, well done! Flowers

PsychedelicSheep · 05/02/2017 13:19

And he's a porn addict too now is he, well isn't he the gift that keeps on giving? 🙄

Well done you for moving out! I do think you should get your stuff though, there's no reason you shouldn't have it, it's yours. Get someone to go round with you while he's out maybe?

SuperFlyHigh · 05/02/2017 13:41

Ha! I did see that too Psychedelic

Either the porn part is a ploy to get OP to feel sorry for him even more (look what you've driven me to, PORN!) or he really is an addict.

Lucky escape OP.

SuperFlyHigh · 05/02/2017 13:43

agreed with Pyschedelic go round either by yourself when he's out or with someone when he's in. Bitter experience, stupid me at the time, went by myself to an ex's and it all went pearshaped and got quite nasty.

JollyBobs · 05/02/2017 14:25

You can't spend your life walking on egg shells, it's a partnership. So mush good advice on this thread, hope you can see a way through. Life is too short Flowers

SlankyBodger · 05/02/2017 15:46

Frugal, delurking to say well done you! 🍾

MaybeDoctor is right, you can organise yourself without spoiling those creative juices. That doesn't mean beating or berating yourself, it just means considering a way to make things easier - like MD's suggestion of using a cross body bag for your purse. It seems ex simply thinks that punishing you for getting something 'wrong' is the only way; he's a disabler, not an enabler. You're creative, and he would have squashed you utterly in the end as punsihers always do.

Now, you can get creative thinking of how to ensure your phone's always charged, your purse doesn't get separated from you etc, in ways that will work for you. Imagine if you had children with him! He'd be saying things like "s/he can't have a spoon until s/he knows how to use it" and you'd be thinking "how're they meant to learn if they're not allowed to get it wrong at first?"

Please don't go back to him, no matter how he stamps his little feeties or threatens or becomes ill (or rather becomes 'ill', which is what he'll do). Take your freedom and spread your wings!

Sugarpiehoneyeye · 05/02/2017 16:51

SLANKY, 'his little feeties'. 😂😂😂

MrDacresEUSubsidy · 05/02/2017 17:11

Some excellent suggestions here - like the cross body bag. Most trains have power points so get a slimline charger and keep it in your handbag. Phone battery low? No problem, plug it in!

I almost always keep my phone on silent so I am forever missing calls. People that know me are aware of that and are used to it.

rubytuesday21 · 05/02/2017 17:20

I'm so happy for you frugal This could have gone on for a long time, thank goodness you have escaped. Don't worry about the work. If you are good at it, committed and easy to work with you will get work. You don't need his contacts. There so many avenues for self promotion these days. (Speaking as an old creative!)

BlueFolly · 05/02/2017 17:41

Just imagine a world where you could make all the chaotic fuck-ups you like and all you'd have to do is say 'oh shit' and sort it out yourself

Oh god, yes this! Grin that's the joy of being divorced - or in your case OP, not marrying the wrong person in the first place!

expatinscotland · 05/02/2017 17:48

Well done! Go get your stuff with a friend or one of your parents and cut this albatross loose.

AndTheBandPlayedOn · 06/02/2017 01:08

I agree with others' concept of looking at this as "skipping the divorce, so don't get married in the first place". (I also broke an engagement.) This is something that you might be able to say to him (or anyone else): You sincerely can not see it going the distance, so it is best to be done with it and move on.

From your posts, it is pretty clear that he was using you to subsidize his lifestyle/finances. Marrying you so you couldn't just walk away...laughable at his (very sincere) levels of self interest.

If he gets into your face too much with
A) Illness
B) Threats
C) Pity Party
D) Guilt Trip
E) Shame On You
just know that None of this has anything to do with you. It is a verbal spanking and/or manipulation because you refuse to stuff yourself into his "template for correct living" he designed for you. It is his frustration to try to save face and win the argument so he won't have the imaginary feeling of emasculation of being dumped...again. Not your circus, not your monkeys.

Don't bother with deep discussions...you are done=that is all you need to say. He already knows why.

ShaniaTwang · 06/02/2017 02:52

Brilliant frugal. I'm so pleased Flowers

AuntNancy · 06/02/2017 10:41

Good for you! Another voice urging you to ignore the guilt trips, collect all your stuff, and leave him to get his act together - something he won't ever do with someone bailing him out all the time. Work-wise, I wouldn't worry too much about his badmouthing you - it sounds as if he's flaky, and probably has more of a reputation for it than you, as his previously loyal girlfriend, are aware of.

It's another break up. Higher stakes, maybe, but all the same, only another break-up. Just because someone asks you to marry them doesn't mean they now own you and your emotional reactions.

confuugled1 · 06/02/2017 11:17

I think the only tears you'll be crying into your bouquet will be tears of joy - that your friend is getting happily married to somebody lovely who loves her and that you too will now have that chance rather than committing yourself to someone who was a self obsessed arsewipe who saw you as somebody to ensure that he got the life he wanted without paying for it. Remember he put you down as putting £400 towards his mortgage a month but never even offered you a chance to have a share of the property in relation to the amount you were contributing, he wanted that for himself. And when your dad gave you money for a wedding it went towards his dream rather than yours or a joint one. Is there any way that you could change that booking so you (and a friend or family member) could have a holiday instead of your wedding, somewhere that you would like to go, just using what has been paid out so far, so you don't lose all your money or you manage to get some enjoyment from ehat has had to be spent?

ShaniaTwang · 06/02/2017 14:23

Yes and I profoundly urge you to look into how you can get money back that you were paying towards his (?) Mortgage. Or was it effectively rent? That's a lot of money that is hard to come by.

Try to go no contact with him for at least three months - however hard - so he doesn't wheedle or guilt trip you into changing your mind.

From painful experience, I married someone when my gut screamed nooooo who sounds exactly like your ex - and even though I have left him, I have DC so I still have to put up with near constant episodes of entitlement, irrationality, stone walling, stinginess and generally controlling and deeply unpleasant behaviour.

Btw I felt I could never get my hair done or buy nice clothes - I do now!!

Good luck with your new fabulous life. Get your hair done and go proper shopping!!

oleoleoleole · 07/02/2017 07:29

You've done a very brave thing but been true to yourself. Keep walking forward X

Expat38matt · 07/02/2017 15:59

Everything you describe is my ex relationship to a T.
Older man
Persuing me
Telling me off for mistakes
Pushed me over when drunk
Isolated me from friends and family
Grand (but empty) gestures
Stole my mobile phone bill and called all my male friends and threatened them with violence for talking to me
And finally when I was pulling away he suddenly had "an illness " that he wouldn't talk about but hinted cancer, would make appointments for a "specialist" weeks in advance so there'd be a huge build up and then -wouldn't go because "he was too afraid to find out" and on and on this went. I know now it was all total bull
Oh and actually the very last thing when I had left and was about to go to Australia to travel was he needed to see me one last time because he was going to jail for GBH (didn't happen funnily enough )

Get out now, don't try and justify any of his behaviour or allow a niggly doubt that he's right about any of his opinions of you

He will really get under your skin to stop you leaving but pls stay strong

Alpies · 07/02/2017 20:21

So happy you walked! This man has been draining ur energy and using u. I'm so shocked he took you away to Paris to propose and expected u to pay your way! And wouldn't even buy u a lunch when u ran out of money! If a man can't pick up an extra 20 euros for a girl he just proposed to, there's something very very wrong there! I'm surprised it took u so long to see the red flags but so happy that u did!

Don't look back! Look forward and fly away!

Kittencatkins123 · 07/02/2017 21:27

Just posting to say how awesome you sound and how happy I am for you. I would go with your folks or a friend to get your stuff - and don't worry about not having furniture etc, you have a talent, passion, motivation and a great work ethic and all that will come in plenty time!

So happy for you for freeing yourself and so excited for the rest of your happy, relaxed, fulfilled, exciting life!

Orlandointhewilderness · 07/02/2017 23:32

Hope everything is going ok for you OP. Well done!

Expat38matt · 15/02/2017 08:40

How are you OP?

Sugarpiehoneyeye · 15/02/2017 11:01

Frugal, come back and say Hello 🙋🏼😄

itwillbegrandsure · 27/02/2017 12:53

How's it going OP?

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