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Hunbunscarybitch is still here

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Hunbunscarybitch · 27/01/2017 18:25

I've posted about this before only under another name. If you've read this previously then I'm sorry if I'm boring anyone to death....so here goes:

In our 50s, 2nd marriage of 14 years. First 2 -3 years of marriage were fantastic and I thought , somewhat naively, I'd met my "soul mate". He was fantastic in helping me bring up my teenage children, for which I will always be grateful. They are grown up now.

About ten years ago, I had a gut feeling things weren't right. We'd been through a lot of stress with my children, H's job and my dad was terminally ill. H was snappy and seemed disinterested in me. I've never snooped before but I looked in his wallet and found a "no strings " sex website written down. I confronted him and he said it must've "fell" in his wallet off his computer screen ( one of his colleagues had stuck it there as a joke). When I pointed out it was in his hand writing he told me he was looking at a friend's fwb profile. When I didn't believe that he admitted he hadn't looked at website but copied it down out of curiosity. My dad died 2 days later so I "parked" that but if ever I brought it up he was very annoyed.

So the last ten years...... I love my H dearly. He's kind to animals, caring to his elderly parents, makes me laugh. However, he won't go on holidays as he says he's too stressed with work. We haven't been for even a weekend away. I must admit I've resented this and I've communicated this to him and he always says " there'll be time for us in the future " . I haven't moped about and I have had fantastic holidays over the years with friends and family. I have a great social life and a wonderful job. The only thing missing in my life is being made to feel special by my H. He works away and when he's at home he's often working on his laptop at the weekends or visiting his elderly parents. In my heart, I know things haven't been right and I've tried to talk to him and even write to him but nothing has changed despite him saying he put more time into our marriage.

The last six months I thought things were improving as we started going to the gym together and going for meals. In November however, my son was looking in the garage and my H's bag toppled over ( his car was being serviced so he'd put contents of boot in the garage) and out fell condoms ( in date) and viagra. I made a frenzied search of another bag and I found a different make of condom which was obviously from a multi pack. Confronted H and he nonchalantly said " oh I should have thrown them away " . He then said he'd bought them for my son - lies. He then expected me to believe he'd pressed the wrong button on the machine!! The viagra he said didn't work as he'd tried one , on his own, out of interest, so it was a fake pub machine one.A week later he admitted he'd wanted sex with someone else but didn't do it.........

So, I don't know about you but would you believe a man would go to the trouble of buying condoms on 2 different occasions plus viagra without a plan or a particular woman, be it a work colleague or an escort in mind? This is the story he's sticking to after all these weeks and he will not say anything apart from "I didn't go through with it" and " I had no one in mind". He acts like I'm crazy woman not believing him. Please could you give me your honest opinion? I intend to show him this thread.

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KoalaDownUnder · 28/01/2017 23:47

I'm SO GLAD you are leaving him.

I am 1000% sure he is knobbing other women.

I am also 1000% sure he is a prick.

Go OP, we are all behind you. Flowers

Hunbunscarybitch · 29/01/2017 00:14

I'm lying in bed next to him now. He's asleep. I feel much calmer now I've posted on here and found (finally!) some clarity. I know what I'm thinking and I know what my plan is. He has sensed a shift in my behaviour, even over such a short time span of a few hours. I can tell he's thrown and somewhat baffled by my new zen non ranting, questioning persona. As I said earlier, I'm no longer a participant in his game

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Hunbunscarybitch · 29/01/2017 00:20

We also watched Apple Tree yard on BBC catch up. The sex scenes seem to make him very uncomfortable and he said "you're going to be doing that on holiday aren't you ?" I didn't dignify with an answer but just looked at him with a " why don't you grow up ?" look Hmm

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Ineedmorelemonpledge · 29/01/2017 09:53

It's a very telling statement isn't it?

he said "you're going to be doing that on holiday aren't you ?"

No, dear, that's how a mind of a cheater would work. Opportunity to be without partner on holiday = opportunity to cheat.

That's his dirty suspicious mind projecting.

Also, if he convinces himself that that's how you'll behave, he gives himself mental carte Blanche to cheat while you're away, she's cheating, so I might as well cheat too.

He's nothing special really, just a text book A hole, isn't he?

Hunbunscarybitch · 29/01/2017 12:25

Your replies and reading The Chump lady are continuing to help me. H just started a conversation about how our "new" life together was going to be so good. I stated that I wasn't sure that was going to happen as I no longer trusted him. He didn't like that and said that I had to "take some culpability in this". I replied,very calmly, I'm not a perfect person, no one is, our marriage has had ups and downs like anyone's but it was your choice to distance yourself from me rather than commicate with me about any dissatisfaction you had. No one put a loaded gun to his head and forced him to buy condoms. He didn't like that one little bit!

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Hunbunscarybitch · 29/01/2017 12:35

I also raised the point that if I hadn't found his little stash of goodies he would've continued to treat me like a housekeeper so I was cynical of his newly found zest to take me away for weekends/holidays
Prior to Dday he thought he ticked all the boxes of being the perfect husband if he took me to the theatre once a year. On these annual occasions he would arrive home from work or visiting his parents at the last possible moment. He would drive like a stressed out maniac on the motorway and we'd arrive just in the nick of time. There'd be no leisurely pre theatre drinks or meal. On the way home, he used to look very satisfied that he'd done his bit to let him off the hook for several months.

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Hunbunscarybitch · 29/01/2017 12:40

Oh yes, I forgot to add, during the interval, rather than talk to me, he would be sending endless texts to "work colleagues " about "very high priority projects that needed his immediate attention " just to make the point how busy and important he was.

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MapMyMum · 29/01/2017 12:47

Im so glad youre leaving him he sounds like a complete a**hole in every way. Keep strong!

Blu · 29/01/2017 13:11

Haha at the 'culpability' line. Straight out of the cheaters / emotional abusers script.

Anyway, it makes no difference. You could have been acting terribly, The ONLY important factor is whether or not you want to go on livjng with him.

He clearly thinks you will go on hol, come back and a few half baked promises from him will once again deliver his 'get out of jail free' card.

Trying to make you feel guilty is part of the manipulation.

He makes my skin crawl, the way you describe him.

Don't give him a running commentary of your plans. He will just sap your emotional energy trying to block or twist your feelings.

Cards close to chest, business like thinking as to the practical steps, SHL. I wouldn't leave it too long, either. He will hide money, cause difficulties etc.

And I bet he searches MN to stalk your threads.

AutumnRose8 · 29/01/2017 14:00

You're doing great! Keep him on his toes, but don't back track.

I hope you won't mind my saying, but not only is he very immature....schoolboy behind the bike sheds type....he doesn't sound too bright either!

Ineedmorelemonpledge · 29/01/2017 14:26

H just started a conversation about how our "new" life together was going to be so good.

But less than 24 hours ago he was accusing you of planning to be promiscuous on your holiday???

Hunbunscarybitch · 29/01/2017 15:51

Thanks Blu. I don't think it enters his head that I will leave him, I really don't , he seems so sure of himself.
The the last holiday I went on he took the opportunity to ask one of my single, very funny, extremely attractive friends out for a drink. I'd asked if he wouldn't mind posting a card through her door on her birthday. I specifically told him not to ring the doorbell and disturb her as I know she hates unexpected visitors. However, he did call and had bought 2 bottles of wine so her daughter, who answered the door, invited him in and he asked my friend if she wanted to go to the pub to watch football later in the week(she's a big fan ) he then gave her his mobile number.
My friend and her daughter thought it was inappropriate and she deleted his number. When I returned from my holiday he casually dropped it into conversation that "he felt a bit sorry for her so he invited her out" Hmm

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Hunbunscarybitch · 29/01/2017 16:00

Ineedmorelemonpledge I think he knows I would never be promiscuous on holiday so he was just probably playing the game of gas lighting me.
I've mentioned to him today that the GP has referred me to well woman clinic for a general check and for STD tests (she said it would be better than going to a walk in centre). I have been having intermittent pelvic pain and spotting which I just put down to the menopause. For the first time H looked shamefaced although he's still insisting "I didn't do anything " " I know the truth" etc ( NB I'm not quizzing him anymore- he's volunteering) So why isn't he saying there's no need for me to be screened for STDs?

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Hunbunscarybitch · 29/01/2017 16:03

Thanks AutumnRose yes you're right - he's very immature. He said himself that he's "growing up" now. At 54 ffs!!!

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Purplebluebird · 30/01/2017 09:21

Glad to hear you've come to a positive decision. You can do better than this guy, he sounds quite rubbish.

Ineedmorelemonpledge · 30/01/2017 09:27

So why isn't he saying there's no need for me to be screened for STDs?

His silence speaks volumes.

Hunbunscarybitch · 30/01/2017 09:46

Last night I asked him if he thought I should get tested for STD and he said he was really sorry but yes. I didn't ask him any details as I didn't think there's anything to be gained. I feel relief in a way. The lies and gas lighting are horrendous. This morning my heart is pounding and I feel sick but I suppose that's normal. So glad I'm going on holiday soon.

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Offred · 30/01/2017 09:49

Wow! What a big shock but also what progress! He actually admitted who he is a little bit....

Flowers

The shock will pass in time. He will always have to live with having treated his wife like shit.

TondelayaDellaVentamiglia · 30/01/2017 09:51

i am glad you have made your decision, but for goodness sake stop giving him attention and power....all this drip drip about STD screening, and trying to winkle info out of him is just making it worse

You have drawn your line, now move on, in your way, do not include him, do not consider him in any way whatsoever do not give him any information.

and get him out of your bed....ugggh what a creep.

Gallavich · 30/01/2017 09:59

Well there is your answer.

Openmindedmonkey · 30/01/2017 10:30

hunbunscarybitch I've just caught up with your progress, via this thread. It reaffirms my belief in MN & the power of supportive friendship, whether or not we are 'just' anonymous people on the Internet.
I am so proud of you & everything you have done and everything you are going to do in your own, independent new life.

tobedo · 30/01/2017 10:46

I remember the friend's birthday and the wine incident, it was so cringe worthy.

Glad you're getting out OP, I don't know how you've stuck him this long.

Teabay · 30/01/2017 11:12

StarStarStar
Three gold stars for your courage hunbun - you are amazingly strong and the next part of your life starts here, when he's gone.
He's already shrinking like the bad witch in Lion Witch Wardrobe as you realise he's been EA ing you.
It's really hard, but you deserve a different life now.

Blu · 30/01/2017 11:14

So, had you not discovered the condoms, he would have merrily gone along with putting your health at risk.
He has zero respect for you, does not care about you.

The friend's birthday incident : embarrassing, humiliating and creepy. He is a lech.

And he was prepared to make this out to be all your fault, blame you, make you feel as if you were going mad - emotional abuse.

He sounds like a sex addict to me.

Go on holiday, re-cast yourself emotional and psychologically as a single woman. Get used to yourself as an independent person. Tell your friends on hol what has been going on and let them support you. Book a solicitor apt for when you get back (book it now) and TELL people that you are separating the minute you come out of that solicitor's office. (best put in ear plugs as the cheers from those who do care about you will be deafening).

Luckily his admission means you can divorce him immediately on grounds of adultery rather than waiting for 2 years separation.

Hooray!

Ineedmorelemonpledge · 30/01/2017 11:53

...and there you go, Hun.

Sorry I didn't answer your question. I'm doing really well. It's amazing how much stress falls off your shoulders when you lose that distrust and ill feeling in your life.

I rely on myself and make myself happy. When I thought I'd never trust again I met a man who makes me happy, cares for me and makes me feel like one in a million.

There is happiness on the other side, believe me.

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