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Hunbunscarybitch is still here

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Hunbunscarybitch · 27/01/2017 18:25

I've posted about this before only under another name. If you've read this previously then I'm sorry if I'm boring anyone to death....so here goes:

In our 50s, 2nd marriage of 14 years. First 2 -3 years of marriage were fantastic and I thought , somewhat naively, I'd met my "soul mate". He was fantastic in helping me bring up my teenage children, for which I will always be grateful. They are grown up now.

About ten years ago, I had a gut feeling things weren't right. We'd been through a lot of stress with my children, H's job and my dad was terminally ill. H was snappy and seemed disinterested in me. I've never snooped before but I looked in his wallet and found a "no strings " sex website written down. I confronted him and he said it must've "fell" in his wallet off his computer screen ( one of his colleagues had stuck it there as a joke). When I pointed out it was in his hand writing he told me he was looking at a friend's fwb profile. When I didn't believe that he admitted he hadn't looked at website but copied it down out of curiosity. My dad died 2 days later so I "parked" that but if ever I brought it up he was very annoyed.

So the last ten years...... I love my H dearly. He's kind to animals, caring to his elderly parents, makes me laugh. However, he won't go on holidays as he says he's too stressed with work. We haven't been for even a weekend away. I must admit I've resented this and I've communicated this to him and he always says " there'll be time for us in the future " . I haven't moped about and I have had fantastic holidays over the years with friends and family. I have a great social life and a wonderful job. The only thing missing in my life is being made to feel special by my H. He works away and when he's at home he's often working on his laptop at the weekends or visiting his elderly parents. In my heart, I know things haven't been right and I've tried to talk to him and even write to him but nothing has changed despite him saying he put more time into our marriage.

The last six months I thought things were improving as we started going to the gym together and going for meals. In November however, my son was looking in the garage and my H's bag toppled over ( his car was being serviced so he'd put contents of boot in the garage) and out fell condoms ( in date) and viagra. I made a frenzied search of another bag and I found a different make of condom which was obviously from a multi pack. Confronted H and he nonchalantly said " oh I should have thrown them away " . He then said he'd bought them for my son - lies. He then expected me to believe he'd pressed the wrong button on the machine!! The viagra he said didn't work as he'd tried one , on his own, out of interest, so it was a fake pub machine one.A week later he admitted he'd wanted sex with someone else but didn't do it.........

So, I don't know about you but would you believe a man would go to the trouble of buying condoms on 2 different occasions plus viagra without a plan or a particular woman, be it a work colleague or an escort in mind? This is the story he's sticking to after all these weeks and he will not say anything apart from "I didn't go through with it" and " I had no one in mind". He acts like I'm crazy woman not believing him. Please could you give me your honest opinion? I intend to show him this thread.

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Offred · 28/01/2017 14:23

You are in a dance where he knows the truth of things and you are accusing him of what he is doing and he is just lying, deflecting and trying to keep you in the FOG (fear obligation guilt) so he can carry on in the pretence of marriage you have which suits him.

Hunbunscarybitch · 28/01/2017 14:25

Offred thank you , you talk sense, thank god I've seen the light!

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Hunbunscarybitch · 28/01/2017 14:27

Chump lady says make sure your H cannot identify you online as it's your safe place. He doesn't know my username but I've reported this thread to have the title changed

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Offred · 28/01/2017 14:27

And I just want to tell you it is absolutely ok for you to just believe he has cheated because you do. To just believe he is a shit because you do.

You don't need proof or his acceptance. Your beliefs are entirely rational and reasonable in the circs...

He could just be expected to suck it up.

SixthSenseless · 28/01/2017 14:28

Omg, at his eyeing up other women in your presence. And his revolting justification. You can bet your bottom dollar that your Mum and children think more harshly than they tell you on this matter. His behaviour is incredibly rude and he sounds like a sexist lech. It tells you everything you need to know.

Just do it, OP. You know it makes sense.

Offred · 28/01/2017 14:30

'That's what I believe based on my rational assessment of all the circumstances' is a good internal belief and possibly a good thing to say if he pushes with his 'you are crazy' bullshit...

Though t'would definitely be better not to engage with him anymore and to simply just begin the process of separating and leaving his crazy making behind.

Offred · 28/01/2017 14:31

You need to be looking in the mirror everyday and saying to yourself 'I am not crazy, he is an abusive shit'

Hunbunscarybitch · 28/01/2017 14:33

Can anyone else, if you've got time, report this thread to flag it up asap as I don't want him to see it so I want the title changing? Thank you Flowers

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Hunbunscarybitch · 28/01/2017 14:35

Thank you Mumsnet for acting so promptly. I love you Smile

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Offred · 28/01/2017 14:37

Oh and sorry for so many posts but I am so so glad you are going on this holiday and going without him. I hope you will find it gives you the space and time for yourself that you really need and deserve!!

Hunbunscarybitch · 28/01/2017 14:37

Chump lady and all of you on mumsnet have stopped me playing his game. The game has stopped today

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Hunbunscarybitch · 28/01/2017 14:46

Thanks Offred I definitely need some space and I'm looking forward to some sunshine

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Hunbunscarybitch · 28/01/2017 15:14

Going to see SHL after my holiday

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SixthSenseless · 28/01/2017 15:36

Yay!!

WELL DONE.

This has made me happy, today.

Not half as happy as the life that is waiting for you, and you can be the intelligent, carefree, fabulous woman you are.

And, what a great example to set your son. Men do not leer at women, lie, cheat, and get to stay in a relationship.

Go, OP!

Hunbunscarybitch · 28/01/2017 15:46

Thanks SixthSenseless Grin

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tobedo · 28/01/2017 16:08

So he's on a diet but he can still look at the menu, that's a phrase no decent man would ever utter.

You should leave him for that one thing alone.

SixthSenseless · 28/01/2017 16:13

tobedo ; she is:

SHE IS GETTING A SHL! HE IS TOAST

Hah!

Hunbunscarybitch · 28/01/2017 16:13

I know tobedo it's like he's saying I'm a stick of celery and he's surrounded by juicy streaks. He even said it when I confronted him about the condoms. Looking back, he has been deliberately putting me down for years

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SixthSenseless · 28/01/2017 16:14

See how excited about this I am?

I do like a story with a happy-woman ending.

Hunbunscarybitch · 28/01/2017 16:21

I can't see my future with this man and I have a future for myself in sight. It might take a while for me to LTB as I need to sort out finances etc but it will happen. It's like I've been blind but today I am seeing with twenty-twenty vision.
How could I have ever believed he "didn't go through with it"? And why does that actually matter anyway? All this time, while I've been in his car or in our bed those condoms have been just a few feet away. What an absolute knob!

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ICantThinkOfAUsernameH · 28/01/2017 16:36

So pleased OP, I hope it all goes well with LTB.Flowers

shockthemonkey · 28/01/2017 17:06

All the best, scary. For some reason I've been really touched by your story and really hope you find happiness soon xxx

toptoe · 28/01/2017 17:14

Remember, he owns his behaviour. He will absolutely try to blame you once he admits to it all. Ignore, it's just his cowardice and his cheatinng comes from his fundamental core personality. He'll never be faithful to anyone.

Gallavich · 28/01/2017 19:00

Has the title of this thread been changed? Confused

Gallavich · 28/01/2017 19:07

Sorry just read up. Congratulations on a good decision!