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My partner spent all our savings

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user1481292639 · 09/12/2016 18:44

My fiancé is terrible with money. He had debts when I met him which he paid off a few years ago when he received some inheritance and I thought that would be the end of it. The rest of the inheritance bought a few luxury items, new car, some of it squandered but hey, it was his money, I couldn't really begrudge a bit of guilt free spending. We agreed to put £10,000 of it into savings to start our mortgage deposit fund. However, a few weeks ago he admitted to me that he has now spent most of the mortgage savings. He couldn't even tell me what on, it's just been pissed up the wall over the last 6 months. I've put my sensible head on and taken control of the finances now as he cannot be trusted. He's agreed that's fine as he has a problem. But I'm still so angry about it!! I'm not working at the moment (I'm at home with baby) so we have no spare money to even begin to make those savings back up. So it will be up to me to save that money myself when I return to work. Which I guess is fine, it will be my house too, I should chip in. But I'm the one now having to bail him out. I've been scrimping and saving my £40 a week housekeeping for our honeymoon fund and had to use it to pay off a payday loan he had outstanding. How would you feel about being in this situation? Would it be make or break? I love him and can't fault him as a father or partner (bar the money issues!!) so have no intention of leaving him. But anyway, what are you opinions? Sorry for long post.

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Kidnapped · 09/12/2016 22:26

He has a car and a motorbike?

He needs to sell at least one of them, preferably both. When you tell him this, his reaction will tell you everything you need to know about how much responsibility he intends to take for his spending.

I do agree with others that all he has done so far is to spend loads of money, lie to you and then pass responsibility for his financial stupidity onto you.

And you, being the head-in-the-sand that you are, have accepted responsibility for it. You are both afraid to look reality in the face and that means that your relationship will not last.

Tell your parents to hang on to their money. You will need that money to house you and your children in the future.

AngryVagina · 09/12/2016 22:29

Yeah I'd be getting him to sell one of the big things that he spent all his money on, ie the motorbike, to prove how sorry he is and replace some of that money!

Ceramicglass · 09/12/2016 22:30

I can't get over spending 10k in 6 months and 12k in bank charges. Good luck with the wedding, & with all future bail outs. At least he chose well, a responsible adult to save him each time he messes up. Carry on

user1481292639 · 09/12/2016 22:31

We had two cars. The car he bought with his inheritance I made him sell to recoup some of the savings. And the other one is a cheap run around we got because we couldn't afford to run the jag (the one I made him sell). He was meant to sell it ages ago when we bought the cheap car. But he didn't want to part with it. Tough luck now. And with the bike, he had 3!! He's sold one, one of them he is still trying to sell. But he wants to keep one cos it's his hobby. Is it mean to tell him to sod his hobby and sell it anyway to recoup our savings? Probably not

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user1481292639 · 09/12/2016 22:36

The ÂŁ12000 bank charges don't sit right with me. The explanation he gave me for that was ridiculous.

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HistoriaTrixie · 09/12/2016 22:36

OP, my hair is practically standing on end after reading all of this! I know you said you want to be married to him, but...if you think about it, isn't it more that you want to be married to the idealized version of him? I screwed up badly when I was younger and married a guy who acted just like your fiance, down to draining savings, not paying his fair share of kid expenses and expecting it to come out of my budget, everything. If you marry this man, this is what's likely to happen:

*He is NOT going to get any better about spending and budgeting, not for any length of time. He'll probably buckle down long enough to lull you into a false sense of security until you agree to let him handle the accounts - and I know you'll say you'll never let him handle that again but you will. He'll be super responsible for as long as it takes and put on a charm offensive and then as soon as he has control of the money again all bets are off.
*He will continue to be selfish and entitled. His wants will always come before your and your DCs needs on the grounds that he Works Hard And Deserves These Little Luxuries, and really, they're SUCH little luxuries, you don't honestly think you could deny him this little thing, do you? Only it's not one little thing every so often. It's little things all the time, the kind of little things that fritter away the ÂŁ10K that was meant to go to a home for himself, you and his own children. The kind of Chinese trinkets and gadgets from eBay that are more important than a ÂŁ200 refrigerator for his family, because HE wants them.
*When you put your foot down and say NO, that won't even be close to the end of it. He will wheedle. He will sulk. If he's anything like my ex (and he sounds VERY like him) he'll even surreptitiously break or damage something of YOURS - since he's not allowed to have "nice things" neither are you. He likely won't go so far as to be physically aggressive because he doesn't want to risk losing an easy source of income if you were to leave.
*While you are married to him, you're never going to have enough money. You're going to have to argue and scrimp and negotiate for every single thing you need to spend money on for yourself and the kids, and probably the home as well. And when outgoings exceed income, it's always going to have been YOUR fault, for all those fripperies like CLOTHING for your growing LOs.
*He's going to get the two of you in financial trouble and to avoid bailiffs or utility cutoffs he's going to push you to try and touch your family and friends for "loans", and if you refuse he may go behind your back and do it. You'll owe people money and somehow there'll never be enough free in the bank to pay them back. He will have a million excuses as to why he can't ask HIS family, of course.

OP, I know this sounds like I'm doomslinging all over the place, but I promise you, I know this type of man and I know how it works. I was stuck for nearly ten years and when my DC and I finally got out we had next to nothing and my credit rating was annihilated. Please don't put yourself through this. DO NOT legally yoke yourself to this man - get out now while it's a matter of a few lost deposits and some blushes over the wedding cancellation emails and phone calls, rather than a long drawn out adversarial process that ends up costing thousands of pounds and ruins you in the process. Flowers

Justmuddlingalong · 09/12/2016 22:36

You made him sell the jag...see this is all still you not him making the effort. He should be doing stuff without you having to tell him, bail him out and mother him.

ShebaShimmyShake · 09/12/2016 22:38

Oh my God get out before he literally ruins your life. I knew he was an arsehole as soon as you said you couldn't leave because despite all this, he is a good father. A good father who lets his child and his child's mother share less per week than he gets alone, and holidays on your dime while pissing money up the wall and letting you bail him out.

Cheap with money, cheap with love, and this guy is a fucking liability.

MrsDesireeCarthorse · 09/12/2016 22:38

By the way, don't think this won't affect your children. All of us would say we had a happy childhood because we were too little to understand what had happened, and because my mother fought so hard to protect us. Yet all three of us are irrational and paranoid about our houses/private possessions. All of us try to do absolutely everything ourselves, two of us overwork and the third married a man the same. My husband is constantly trying to wrest work off me but I can't let it go.

When it kicked off in my family, I was 1.

I warn you, you and your shitty partner will fuck your children right up if this continues.

BMW6 · 09/12/2016 22:40

I agree with poster above. Talk is all well and good but what is HE going to do to help the finances - will he sell car and/or motorbike?
And having bought all this "stuff" he can surely sell it all on ebay?

Talk is cheap OP.

If you end up having to monitor and police his spending it will destroy your relationship - because he is not growing up and you are not his Mum.

poshsausage108 · 09/12/2016 22:41

I was in a relationship with someone similar until this July. I finally snapped and left, taking ÂŁ12k of debts with me. He always had an excuse for why he couldn't pay, it was someone else's fault he was broke, bankrupt (which he told me after I moved in) and generally an abject failure at life. I took out a ÂŁ10k loan to essentially keep us (and his two DC's) afloat until I realised he would never change. I will pay off my credit card this month and hopefully the balance of the loan in a year. I kept bailing and bailing because I loved him and felt like it was my responsibility to do so and he kept squandering and spending. Your partner will never change. Ever. He has children, a partner, a house and marriage on the horizon yet he puts crap from Ebay ahead of all of this. I don't blame you at all for how you have acted as I was exactly the same, but I promise if you leave you will look back in six months and wonder what the f@@k was wrong with you. You deserve better and his mistakes are not yours to bear if he won't change. You are his partner not his keeper. He is not your responsibility and if you stay you will resent him more and more as you scrimp and save and budget and he comes along and undoes it all by buying things he 'deserves' because he had to go one day without steak for breakfast (true story!). Please get out whilst you still can. Remove yourself from the joint account and move out. As someone has pointed out you can get childcare vouchers from age 2 if you are low income so that will help, get back to work and build the life you deserve.

Kidnapped · 09/12/2016 22:43

I'm not sure I read your last post correctly.

Did he sell the Jag? Or did you tell him that he has to sell the Jag ages ago and he hasn't got around to it yet because he doesn't want to part with it?

And he still has two motorbikes?

And you think you are being hard on him?

GiddyOnZackHunt · 09/12/2016 22:44

Is it mean to tell him to sod his hobby and sell it anyway to recoup our savings? Probably not

Let's put that another way.
Is it mean that he has destroyed our family's chances of buying a house unti 2022? Is it mean he spent our honeymoon money on crap off eBay?

ShebaShimmyShake · 09/12/2016 22:47

If he wants a hobby he can take up knitting. Much cheaper and more useful. He can make jumpers for you all for when your electricity gets cut off, and maybe a pretty cosy to replace your pot to piss in after even that gets taken away.

user1481292639 · 09/12/2016 22:47

He sold the jag a few days ago. And the money has gone into my personal savings account so that he can't touch it. The bike sales will have to go on hold as nobody wants to buy a motorbike in the winter time. I do feel bad about making him sell the actual bike he uses. But he does need to actually make some sacrifices to prove I'm not the only one trying to fix this mess

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user1481292639 · 09/12/2016 22:50

Hahaha I will suggest the knitting. Thank you has given me a giggle and I really needed one tonight! Though in all seriousness I get what your saying. And thankfully bills are paid, we are warm and fed. But given some of the stories I've read from posters who were in a similar position to me, how long will that last??

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ClopySow · 09/12/2016 22:52

Yeah, that ÂŁ12000 bank charges thing does sound odd. I'm not sure how you would manage that and if it was true, surely he would have been able to claim them back when there was the big bank repayment thing.

posh and historia your stories sound so familiar.

3luckystars · 09/12/2016 22:52

Everyone is shocked that he squandered 10,000, but he didn't just squander that, he squandered thousands more!! that 10,000 was just the bit he put into the bank because he was selfishly squandering all the rest of the inheritance on HIMSELF! Then when that ran out, he spent the bit ge w
had put away for your family.

Fucking RUN!

BMW6 · 09/12/2016 22:52

Cross posted with your updates OP. Have changed my mind.

BREAK OFF THIS RELATIONSHIP NOW - TONIGHT. NOT FOR YOUR SAKE BUT FOR YOUR DC

You can't fix him and he will cause endless misery to your children. Fuck him.

Ceramicglass · 09/12/2016 22:53

Is there any point to your posts? You will marry this guy, you will still carry on bailing his ass. He knows it, you know it, we all know it. How can you move past this? There's no solution to this apart from separating. This ain't normal. Why do you even want to move past this? Unless you love your role as a saviour. Yea that's probably it. Anyway good luck.

HistoriaTrixie · 09/12/2016 22:57

How long will it last? Until you've committed and you can't get away without making things even worse on yourself. Seriously. Get. Out. Now. He. Is. A. User.

ClopySow · 09/12/2016 22:59

It's completely wrong that you should be feeling bad about anything, you haven't lied and pissed thousands of pounds away.

Have a bit of a think about that actually. Somehow, you're the one who feels bad when you haven't caused this. You're managing on ÂŁ50 for you and your children and paying off his debts while he had 3 motorbikes and a jag, but you feel guilty...

user1481292639 · 09/12/2016 22:59

The point to my posts are clarity. Do you have a partner? Would you leave your partner based on a strangers opinion of them in a single post? You don't know the entirety of our relationship. Just this one snippet of information. I'm trying to take on board what everyone is saying. And it's opened my mind to a whole host of questions I need answering by my OH. We might not get through this. Or maybe we will. But thanks to everyone who has commented on here. I need to stop mothering him about it. He's in the wrong not me

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HistoriaTrixie · 09/12/2016 23:02

There is nothing, NOTHING about any other aspect of a relationship that can make up for the financial shenanigans he is pulling, OP!

Stop and think for a moment. You don't even necessarily have to post it and tell us (although I hope you do b/c I am dying to know):

What exactly does he bring to your relationship that makes everything I outlined in my post above an acceptable risk?

expatinscotland · 09/12/2016 23:03

He squandered the entire inheritance, ÂŁ12000 (in bank charges?), ÂŁ2000 on pay day loan, and this is just what you know about (and all the other debts he had when you met). He had a Jag and 3 motorbikes and is still giving you excuses why he cannot sell them all (it's Winter, he needs a hobby).

And you've just bailed him out to the tune of ÂŁ2000. Bet this isn't the first time.

Are you listening? Because he is showing you who he is. He is a selfish, entitled person who will always blow money like water.

He's blown tens of thousands of pounds.

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