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Absolutely Livid!! dh just called a fat lazy f****ker

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Debbsyandson · 09/02/2007 22:40

im furious,only had my ds 8 weeks ago,have lost most of my baby weight,i do all the nite feeds nappy changes baths washing cleaning and admittedly theres not always a meal done when he gets home from work.But for fucks sake i am a new mum!!!Feel like walikng through the door with ds and not coming back he has really really hurt me.

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1sue1 · 09/02/2007 22:57

That is brilliant. And true.

fransmom · 09/02/2007 22:57

calpol works for knocking off pain of inj sometimes. just an idea - next time he tells you to make a cup of tea, make one in a mug thats got mouldy-smelly growths round the outside and when he complains say "that's what you expect ds to drink out of when you don't do it"

Debbsyandson · 09/02/2007 22:57

it is out of character but the cheeky swine im not bragging but lots of people hae said how good i look after having a baby so soon.he has made me feel like shit.

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divamumplus · 09/02/2007 22:57

liquidclock,
thats really good. i shall remember do that if i need to in the future

colditz · 09/02/2007 22:59

He is being a toatl cock.

Debbsyandson · 09/02/2007 23:00

he has had calpol thanks he hasnt been that bad just wants me that was all.Sideways i do want to give up feeding myself tough decision for me but the right one.

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Debbsyandson · 09/02/2007 23:01

i know he is a cock a great big one going to bed now as got to get some sleep in thanks allxx

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Frizbe · 09/02/2007 23:02

Like the post liquidclocks, dh at it.

Debsey Men! and you've got a walloping bad leg as well give ds some more calpol and pop him back in bed, then show your dh this thread......if that fails send him round to my dh, who now has 3 kids and will talk sense into him.

margo1974 · 09/02/2007 23:02

He is being an arse

Men,eh?

KISSassangel · 09/02/2007 23:04

chatting to friends in the pub after work, i commented how aftter dd was born we went through a period when we BOTH felt the other one needed to do more & was letting us down. once the intial rush is over, the hard work of a baby hits home & that's when you know if you've got the kind of relationship that'll last. There was unanimous agrrement from all mums - after the honeymoon period, you discover how you work as a family, not a couple. then you find out if you can live as a family. very hard, but if you find a time when you can talk, not argue, it might be worth discussing this, if you both feel the other one could do more to help out, could it be that actually you're both tired & in need of some help? the trick is not to balme each other. i spent months muttering 'lazy fucking wanker' under my breth every time i had to ask dh to do something, then we kind of grew out of it.
i also think colditz has a lot of truth in what she says.

good luck

daisynut · 09/02/2007 23:04

oh honney (((hugs)))) right here's what you do:

a) do you honestly want to stop BF Kai?

if you do, I want you next week - in fact nigh either way if you don't get some EBM stocked up, formula or what ever and go out for the day - yes it will be a wrench but seriosuly go out of the house no nothing, no calling DH either to check up (and beleive me I know how hard that is)

then leave him a list of what has to be done - incl the washing/ironing/cooking and looking after Kai.

FFS baby has just had his first jabs the are ratty (most of thm) that day - I vividly remember sitting on my arse all that day giving J cuddles and kicking DH into the spare room on a night.

weekends he needs to get more involved - this means you having a lay in and him getting up withe kai.

we have a rule - I tidy DH looks after J - suggest DH would like time with Kai as he obv works all week. have him back for feeding if you want to BF then hand him back. honestly.

also i'd never admit to DH but in the beginning I had trouble letting go and allowing him to helkpl me out - it was a trust think I think, real issues over it but it all worked out. seriosuly thou DO NOT stand for him saying that - FFS you've just had his child, he should be worshipping the ground u walk on!!!!! I don't disagree during the week i'm up with J if need be as DH works, but on a W/E he does his fair share.

I honeslty thing you need to leave DH wiht kai for the day - a morning at least, don't tell him where you're going/when you will be back. get your hair done and pamper yourself. he'll soon realise there's a lot more to looking after a baby/running the hosue than sititng down watching tv alday

(can u tell we've been thru this! lol)

(munz)

Frizbe · 09/02/2007 23:09

daisy I just wanna point out, you've done a namechange to hide who you are you dingbat!

daisynut · 09/02/2007 23:14

lol. I know I just don't want debs to think i'm a werido getting personal lol.

Debbsyandson · 10/02/2007 10:59

liquid clocks that was brilliant thanks everyone for advice hubby must have known he fucked up as he sat skilking downstairs till 12.30 (hoping i was asleep)ds was an angel slept from 11.30 till 5am my beautiful little boy,i was so proud of him.Then i bf at 5 till 6 then he slept till guess what time 9!!!!!!!!!!!!!Hubby (note there is no dear) skulked upstairs this morning whilst i was feeding ds then has tried to start about 20 conversations with me so far,which have been met with stony silence,but not 1 consisting of an apology but he is very good for brushing things under the carpet.I have booked in at the beauticians for a facial and massage this afternoon to try and make myself feel better.I refuse to speak to him at all.
Munz you hit the nail on the head about the trust thing as i would rather do things myself and i cant seem to overcome it,he has put the steriliser on but ive emptied it and checked there was one teat that wasnt clean enough!!i also find he questions me on everything,like for eg dont give 6 ounces its too much give him 4 well hello better to have too much than too little tit!!
When he bathed him he tried to cut corners by trying to wash his hair when he was in the bath,instead of doing it the way i do it hsir washed first then dried then bathed.I explained the reason why and he just thinks im clucking... Last weekend he wanted to take him out in his pram,ds has been snuffly for about 2 weeks now ive taken him to the Drs once as he was grunting alot,so i refused and said it was too cold for him another row started.I feel like im battling with him all the time and last night what he called me was the last straw!!

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hoolagirl · 10/02/2007 11:18

Just read your thread.
Go and enjoy your facial. I bet you look great anyway. He prob knew that was the thing that could throw you.
No advice, just on your behalf.

WigWamBam · 10/02/2007 11:28

Enjoy your massage and facial.

Make sure you stop for a cup of coffee and a read of the paper as well, and have a bit of a mooch around the shops ... don't be in any rush to get back. Let him find out what it's like to be left holding the baby for a little while.

When you're talking to him again, show him how to do things properly ... then let him do them. He has to get used to working with you, not against you, and it's all too easy to do it yourself because you don't trust him. That way madness lies.

Debbsyandson · 10/02/2007 11:32

Well im being quite hard today he has just brough ds to me cos he was crying, i told him to sort him give him a bottle which he is doing now.

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daisynut · 10/02/2007 12:47

ok debs - we've ben here, and I had a lot of excellent advice from MN.

the trust was a big thing for me - but honeslt yonce you've been out once (and I hope you enjoy your papmer sesh today) it will get better.

thing is as well - and i'm not justifying your DH at all - there was no need and that needs addressing seperatly, BUT. my DH has said to me today 'i'm damned if I do i'm damned if I don't' where J's concerned. it stemed cos he goes up to him on a w/e to settle him which is sweet cos then I don't wake up - but the point is I don't go in during teh week and he settles himself.

also your DH will have differnt ways of doing things than you - silly example for us is that DH puts and always has dressed J differntly to how I do - and when MIL asked and said when he was v small 'how do you put the baby grow on' both of us had a differnt answer - the point i'm getting at it pick yourt battles, as long as the out come is the same and LO is not in any immediate danger (which I don't beleive you or you DH would do) then don't worry. being a mum is exhausting enough without the added worry there. iycwim.

(also see if this will help you guys, but DH/I will be talking and i'll say have you noticed xyz or something and he'll come back and say we'll this works better try that) iycwim - so J settled better for the way DH soothes him to sleep but stays still better the way I dress him iycwim so we've comprimised.

for the most part thou tyou're both new parents finding your way with thingsd, there's bound to be some hickups along the way. jsut gotta come together in the end

as WWB says it's easy not to trust but until you take that leap things won't improve - and if anything prob get worse it's silly isn' ti cos he's the daddy but as the mummy you feel you do everything rigth/the best etc, and your DH will want the same thing it's jsut his ways are slightly differnt

(hope i'm making sence) j's screaming so trying to be quick

Judy1234 · 10/02/2007 13:50

That's awful. Depends how it was said but we can assume nastily. He probably feels very affected by having a new baby and unsure about things, probably is tired, but not as much as you and may be he feels under pressure but it's still not on.

There was recently a case about someone who called her boss on an email a "big fat thing" and I think lost her job. People need to be careful what they say...

"A woman whose email insults about her boss caused her to be sacked was unfairly dismissed, an Employment Tribunal has ruled. But she will not be reinstated and will only receive compensation of 12.5% of her losses because she was 75% to blame.

Agnes Wilkie was a television producer with Scottish Television (STV), the Scottish ITV franchise. She was suspended then sacked from her £70,000 a year job as head of features when emails were discovered referring to her boss Bobby Hain as 'a big fat thing' and 'blob'.

Hain discovered mails which had been sent to his personal assistant and was said at the Tribunal to have been "mortified". Wilkie was accused of having behaved in a way that was "tantamount to bullying", but said that nicknames "came with the territory".

Hain was said to have had the name Mr Bobby when he worked as a disc jockey, and that the nickname Mr Blobby, after the lurid pink and yellow toy that was for years Noel Edmond's on-air colleague, developed from that.

The Tribunal said that blame for the situation was to be shared. Wilkie was 75% responsible for the situation because her behaviour was calculated to undermine Hain and her conduct was serious.

It found, though, that the dismissal of Wilkie was unfair because she had offered to apologise, but that offer was rejected.

Following the discovery of the initial email, Wilkie was suspended in November 2005. Hain had found the email when he was searching through his PA's mails, with permission, when she was off sick.

On finding out that the mail had been discovered, Wilkie wrote to the PA to say: " Poor Bobby. Let me go and apologise and explain the context". Instead, the company made further investigations and found other emails.

Because of Wilkie's role in the situation, her compensation was reduced to 12.5% of her loss, the Tribunal said.

"I shouldn't have sent the email like that because it caused hurt," said Wilkie. "I referred to a member of the company in the same terms as most people in the company happily referred to him. Most people in my industry would say: 'I've written worse than that'."

"We welcome the panel's decision that Ms Wilkie's behaviour was calculated to undermine Bobby Hain, constituting a fundamental breach of contract," said an STV statement. "We believe strongly that all our people have the right to be treated with courtesy."

"We argued from the start that the process was flawed," said Paul Holleran, the Scottish organiser for the National Union of Journalists. "There is a lesson here for employers to take a reasonable approach and not to overreact. It is also a lesson to all workers to take care when using e-mails."

JARM · 10/02/2007 14:11

Xenia - hardly the same thing is it!

Take your work/money stuff somewhere else will ya.

podglet · 10/02/2007 16:40

Debs - firstly I hope you had a lovely time being pampered and you feel loads better. You looked splendid on the photo recently. I also hope that your H understands a bit more, now he has been left with your DS for a few hours.

We have just had babies for heaven's sake, they turn the world on it's head. Sometimes things don't happen around the house. Tough na na's.

It is tough watching DP play wiht DS as he does things differntly to me but as someone else said, as long as the end result is the same, who cares? With DP who had had no experiene of babies before DS, he watched me do stuff for the first few days so learnt how to nappy change, dress, bathe etc and now he does them on his own.

I like the idea about leaving for the day with a list of things that you would do in a day for H to complete whilst you are out, as well as look after DS. Let him see how hard it is.

Loads of hugs for you

Debbsyandson · 10/02/2007 18:12

thanks for advice all lol jarm.Well what an eventful day left him with ds whilst going for massage,visited hospital as leg very painful,had to have blood tests to rule out bloodclot.. ita not that thankfully.Regarding how hubby coped well ds fell asleep and stayed asleep till i came home.Im still not speaking to him and am still v angry im amazed he hasnt even tried to say sorry...... wanker.

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Judy1234 · 10/02/2007 18:23

The podlet suggestion is a good one. Often the only way that works to get that equality and equity into relationships is to be in work as interesting and well paid as your other half and getting back to work makes sure you are not the drudge at home doing the cleaning and childcare but the glamorous worker who leaves the house looking smart each day etc but anyway that was always what suited me better. No idea how anyone could actively choose and like to be home with a baby!

Snaf · 10/02/2007 18:24

I cannot believe you cut-and-pasted all that, Xenia. How irrelevant, exactly?

Debbsyandson · 10/02/2007 18:31

ERR Xenia I DO have a very good job as it goes im a national account manager so i do go out suited and booted also have a very nice company car.But im on mat leave anyway thats irrelevent the issue is my hubby,nothing else and i take my hat off to stay at home mums for the record.

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