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MIL no-contact, DH sad, what to do?

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DilapidatedGlamourpuss · 19/10/2016 17:17

This is going to be long, and MIL related. Sorry. I just don’t know what to do, and I don’t want to dripfeed. This is so identifying to anyone who knows me but I don’t even care anymore.

I’ve been with my DH since we were 18 (we met at uni), and we married this year. We are in our late twenties. We relocated earlier this year for his job to the US. Our relationship is mostly great and we are very happy together. There’s one problem, my MIL. We are now completely estranged and its breaking my DH’s heart. We are due to go home for Christmas and I have no idea what we’re going to do.

I’ve always felt that MIL has disapproved of me, and we have clashed over the years when I have refused to toe the party line like the rest of the family. Everyone does what she says, because if they don’t she cries, or is ill, or starts an almighty row. I’m not used to such a manipulative dynamic in my own family, and it made me very wary of her.

Whatever we did wasn’t the right thing. Jobs, where we chose to live, the fact we hadn’t bought a property by 25, our friends, the fact that I have had MH problems and have had some time out of work over the last few years due to ill health.

When I was 19 and disclosed that I had been abused she asked whether I had been tested for STIs, as she didn’t want me to pass anything on to her son. I was going through the ordeal of seeing the case go to trial, giving evidence in court and watching it be plastered all over the national news at the time. It made me feel so ashamed and dirty and I have never forgotten it. She tried to persuade my DH to leave me at the time, something he let slip. I let it go then, as I was grateful she hadn’t thrown me out of their home for my disclosure. I have come a long way since then.

Over the years, I veered between avoiding her and trying to be accepting of her personality, out of love for my then DP. There were times when we got on better, even though I still felt the underlying disapproval. So, last year we got engaged and planned a wedding very quickly as we wanted to move to the US. We would have got married in the following 18 months-2 years, but we had been given this opportunity of a lifetime and to be together needed to be married. And that’s where the trouble began.

She ruined our engagement party by crying and storming off when she found out we weren’t going to be married in church. She continually made digs about this, even though she knew I had been abused in a church setting and this was really triggering for me, which I explained to her. She goaded me into screaming at her and getting completely hysterical when we went round there by constant little digs about how what we were planning wasn’t good enough, because she didn’t have enough involvement. I tried to involve her in the beginning, but she wanted to entirely take over so I drew back.

In the interests of full disclosure, we asked her to make the cake as this is something she does as a hobby and is very good at. I thought it would be a good way to make her feel involved, but I think this was a mistake. They also offered money, which we accepted. This was also not a good idea - we were able to pay for the wedding but I think DH didn’t know how to not accept their offer. I did meet her and forgive her for the above, before Christmas. I made some compromises to try and make her happy – not having the humanist ceremony we really wanted and we tried to accommodate them with the food.

My DH left for the US in January a few months before the wedding, so on the whole I had to plan it without him, but was running everything past him over Skype. I met her for coffee with my DMum, as I had a feeling she was going to create a scene or try and manipulate me, which is exactly what happened. What was meant to be a talk about wedding plans turned into her screaming that the wedding would be a shambles, it wouldn’t be real as it wasn’t a church wedding and that she wasn’t coming. In a shopping centre. It was so embarrassing and I was very upset. We tried to cut the scene short, and walked away. She followed, shouting at us. This is because I told her we would be getting married in another room than originally planned, because the guest list had gone up. She then sent me a very malicious text after. My DP was in the US, absolutely heartbroken and bewildered that she had said she wasn’t going to come.

To cut a very long story short, she came to the wedding and we managed to keep it civil. This was through various people in the DH’s family putting pressure on me to meet her and talk about it. Everyone is desperate to placate her all the time. After the wedding, I discovered she had tried to manipulate the wedding planner into changing the room, been horrible to my bridesmaids when they changed their dresses in the evening, ran our wedding down to anyone who would listen and had a massive row with her DSis because I met her for lunch. As far as I know, they still aren’t speaking.

After this, I decided I could have no contact with her. She made the run up to our wedding the most miserable time of my life, when it should have been happy. She does not understand why I won’t have anything to do with her, even though she has had it explained by various family members. My DP is desperate to have us in the same room at Christmas- we are both homesick and he is so sad that we are estranged, even though he is completely on the same page that what she has done is awful. She is still his Mum and he loves her, even though he doesn’t like her behaviour. I hate seeing him cry about this, but I’m still so angry with her I think meeting her would make it worse. I feel such hatred and bitterness towards her for everything that has happened over the years and I don't want to inflame the situation further by losing my temper.

So – does anyone have any idea where to go from here? If you got to the end of this congrats, it was long.

OP posts:
ohfourfoxache · 26/04/2017 12:05

How are you doing today?

VodkaLimeSoda27 · 26/04/2017 12:08

They arrive on Monday and go on the cruise the following Saturday so it's quite a long time- probably going to feel like eternity!

I like having quiet evenings during the week as I need the headspace with the job isn't that great but I guess I will be making myself very busy to avoid spending any time with them. I just wish they would let me live my life in peace, but considering she did her utmost to ruin our wedding that's not going to happen any time soon.

VodkaLimeSoda27 · 26/04/2017 12:10

X-posted with you fourfox! I'm not so good at the moment, can feel myself getting a bit depressed. I'm eating a lot of takeaway and junk, which is always a problem when I feel overwhelmed. It's stupid because I've got healthy stuff in the fridge Hmm

ohfourfoxache · 26/04/2017 12:50

Hahahahaha- good timing! Grin

It isn't stupid at all. I think that, when you're depressed, there is a tendency to neglect yourself and just grab easy comfort food (and in my case lots of it).

Don't feel guilty for eating rubbish btw - this will pass but in the meantime just concentrate on getting through each minute at a time.

Have you thought about asking your husband to meet them away from your home?

VodkaLimeSoda27 · 26/04/2017 13:47

Each minute at a time sounds like good advice Smile thank you. I will definitely be asking him to see them outside of our home so I have somewhere that feels 'safe' while they are here. I certainly won't be hosting them there, that wouldn't even be up for discussion. Luckily we live close enough to all the tourist stuff that hopefully that will keep them busy.

TheWorldHasGoneToCake · 26/04/2017 17:59

I'm also a comfort eater name is a clue

I think saying they can't cross the threshold is a fair boundary to set, but I can hear DH saying you're excluding them by not letting them see where you live and It's not fair blah blah blah from MIL too. Is he working for the week preceding the cruise or spending time with them? Maybe he can show them round while you're at work but they have to be out come 5pm?

ohfourfoxache · 26/04/2017 18:10

Agree with Cake - he's going to have to get a backbone and not give in to MIL. And tbh I personally think it would be better for them being in your home as an outright no, not just a "be out by 5" - I think that you need home to be somewhere completely unsullied.

Vodka I also think that this visit is going to be pivotal. Dh will either have your back or he won't. Probably best not to look too far into the future for now, but now is the time to concentrate on you and your needs.

VodkaLimeSoda27 · 27/04/2017 02:17

He's at work the whole will. Tbh I don't care if he shows them this apartment while I'm out, because then I don't have to hear what they will inevitably have to say but I'm not hosting them or even being here with them. Not on.

I think this visit will be pivotal too. Think that's why I'm slightly going to pieces atm. I really hope he can stand up for me when they attack but I just don't know if he will Sad

TheWorldHasGoneToCake · 27/04/2017 07:58

Sending you a big squishy hug and some Cake We'll be here to listen through the next week and while he's away on the cruise. Such a shame that your otherwise wonderful relationship is marred by this.

He does need to take some responsibility here as pointed out up thread he hasn't done any of the stuff he promised at/after Christmas - it seems you're the one having to do all the work here.

ohfourfoxache · 27/04/2017 08:29

Right, come on: minute by minute. And they're not here yet, which means that at this exact moment you can breathe easy. Just focus on that. Breathe. You're not going to pieces.

What are you going to do today for you? What have you got planned that is positive?

MusicIsMedicine · 27/04/2017 11:32

I've lived this and it didn't get better. Get all the support you possibly can. X

VodkaLimeSoda27 · 27/04/2017 12:48

Thanks for the Cake and the hugs. It's really heartening to feel supported here!

He 100% needs to take more responsibility. He's been away with work a lot recently, and gets back today from a trip. I'm going to talk to him over the weekend and ask how he plans to support me and have my back while they are here.

I do have support here luckily. I met up with some friends last night who said that if it's all too difficult I can go and stay with them, which was lovely and quite unexpected, as they knew my DH first. However, I think they can see how much this is getting to me.

Got a meeting at work today where I think my coworker and I are going to get a bollocking over a very small mistake... So got that to look forward to as well haha! I'm rewriting my CV, I don't think finance really suits me. I was much happier in charities and other not for profit organisations. At the same time, could do without the upheaval.

ohfourfoxache · 27/04/2017 13:35

Maybe (just maybe) an upheaval is just what the Dr ordered? It will take your mind off things. And imagine if it led to something that you really really really enjoy doing! Wouldn't that be fabulous?

VodkaLimeSoda27 · 27/04/2017 13:46

It really would be! I loved my old job that I left to move out here. It would be easier to bear being away from home and all this stuff with MIL if I could find something I enjoy again

ohfourfoxache · 27/04/2017 15:20

Right then, in that case you're going to take life's lemons and whip up a lemon meringue pie! Sod lemonade, that just won't cut it - you need sweet and tasty!

Have you had a look around the current jobs market? Is there anything you fancy? The work that you were doing in the UK, do they have any connection to organisations local to you now? Do you have any old colleagues who could link you up with people in the US?

Coconut70 · 28/04/2017 18:08

I've had that being out while they visit, mil will manipulate it completely to be sitting oh so innocently in your living room then gloat as you and DH have a hushed argument in another room. a low point for us was e this once and I was shouting you spineless bustard in garden. even if he won't protect you or have your back protect yourself and your mental health. do what you have to do to get through it but have clear boundaries for yourself re meals, coffees out, you will be painted as difficult, ungrateful, unreasonable for not letting inlaws take you out for a meal if they are anything like mine.
you are vulnerable like me due to csa past so watch your mood, sleep, anxiety levels. I so many times felt it was a pivotal point, split up etc due to his weakness with inlaws. but if otherwise you love him and have a good marriage focus on that your own wee family the two of you. thinking of you this week it will be crap, keep posting kxx

TheWorldHasGoneToCake · 29/04/2017 21:10

Thinking of you for Monday x

ohfourfoxache · 30/04/2017 19:04

Offering a hand hold xx

VodkaLimeSoda27 · 30/04/2017 19:24

Thank you for the handholds x I'm going to get through the next 2 weeks as best as I can, and reassess the work situation when they have gone. One thing at a time!

I'm sure they will try something to manipulate me, they always do. The worst thing at the moment is not knowing what it will be. I have done a positive thing though and signed up for a 5k at the end of May, I'm hoping the training will give me something good to focus on!

TheWorldHasGoneToCake · 30/04/2017 20:48

Oh wow, that sounds like a good target. I'm doing C25K but a bit stuck at the 25 minute mark.

Here to chat should you need it.

ohfourfoxache · 30/04/2017 20:53

Bloody well done! 5k? Sweet Jesus, I can just about drive 5k ATM Blush

You know what's going to happen and you're expecting it - that's half the battle. Nothing that happens now will come as a shock.

Imagine that you've got a suit of armour: it protects you all over physically and mentally. It's as light as a feather and as strong as Kevlar. No one can get through it, even dh. Nothing can hurt you.

Whilst you're wearing your armour you can focus entirely on your 5k and your friends and your search for an enjoyable job and anything else that isn't them. It's an entirely protective field.

You can do this Vodka. You're strong and brave and the only reason she's doing this is because she's jealous of you. You don't need her approval and you don't need any fake niceness she may "appear" to offer.

Coconut70 · 30/04/2017 21:37

great post @ohfourfoxache, awareness of what she is like is half the battle. have a sweepstake in your mind or journal as to odds of which bonkers behaviour/situation she will create.

she sounds a sad, bitter ageing lady whereas you and your husband will have many wonderful events ahead.

thinking of you kxxx

ohfourfoxache · 30/04/2017 21:40

Aw, thanks Coconut Blush

VodkaLimeSoda27 · 02/05/2017 03:17

Thanks all, you keep my spirits up Smile DH is picking them up from the airport as we speak... I tried to take my mind off it all today by going to a walk/run (more of a walk, haha) and making myself some nice lunches for this week.

Racked up nearly 9 miles today so bloody knackered now. Just hope I can sleep and not think about any impending shit too much.

Spadequeen · 02/05/2017 08:28

All the best, I hope dh keeps his promises