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OW says she has just miscarried

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Notgoingtobeamug · 13/10/2016 20:46

I can't think straight. DP and I separated a few months ago after he admitted he had been having an 8 month affair.

We started talking again, he stopped seeing OW about a month ago and we were tentatively discussing a way to maybe move forward with our relationship. We have a 3 year old DS and had been together for 13 years.

She contacted him 2 days ago saying she was miscarrying his baby. He has only just told me (in front of our DS).

I've walked out the room and shut myself upstairs. He is angry at me as he says it's hard for him, that he told me as he needed friendly support!

He just came upstairs. I told him I dont think she was ever pregnant, she posts her whole life on Instagram and only yesterday was she arranging to go out clubbing this weekend.

She is 12 years younger than us and plays ridiculous games on social media and she basically taunted me when He left me for her.

I know it's bad but I told him if it is true then I can't support him in his sadness and that if I'm honest, I'm glad she miscarried. I know that's horrid, but he has put me through hell for so long. I've worked so hard at recovering myself from the damage he caused by the affair, with him rubbing her in my face when he left and publicly humiliatin me, I can't believe that he nearly just had a child with her.

I feel terrible having these thoughts but I dont know what to say or do. I feel sick.

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Starryeyed16 · 13/10/2016 20:48

Op why did you get back with him?

mydietstartsmonday · 13/10/2016 20:48

You are only human and I agree with your suspect she wasn't pregnant

Ginmakesitallok · 13/10/2016 20:48

He needs friendly support?? Shock He needs to fucking wise up!

MatildaTheCat · 13/10/2016 20:49

I'm so sorry but he doesn't sound wholly committed to your relationship if he wants your sympathy here. Whether she was pregnant or not it's completely unreasonable to expect a shred of regret or sadness from you.

He needs to do some more thinking about his actions and priorities.

Willow33 · 13/10/2016 20:50

I am so sorry to hear what he has put you through and then expects you to give you friendly support!
Are you sure you want to still be with him?

AmberEars · 13/10/2016 20:51

Has he no empathy?? Did he honestly not realise how hard it would be for you to hear that?

BastardGoDarkly · 13/10/2016 20:51

He wants support?!

Nah, fuck off, I couldn't do that either.

And I'd be furious that he said that in front of ds?!

Really is all about him isn't it?

BantyCustards · 13/10/2016 20:52

He needed your friendly support?

FFS I've heard it all now.

Notgoingtobeamug · 13/10/2016 20:52

I got back with him because I missed him, because he was my best friend and I loved him. I felt like I owed us a chance to see if we could repair.

Whilst we were apart I did recognise that some of his terrible behaviour was down to my actions (not the affair- there was no excuse for that) but it snowballed after i didn't obtain help for a problem I had.

I admitted to him I can't handle him getting her pregnant, I always wanted a second child but didn't as our relationship was so fragile after DS.

My heart is pounding.

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neonrainbow · 13/10/2016 20:53

You're glad she's having a miscarriage? That's monstrous.

He will cheat on you again. He's the problem, not her.

AyeAmarok · 13/10/2016 20:54

It's understandable you feel as you do.

But it really, really doesn't sound like it's a good idea for you to get back with him.

This is too much for you to deal with, and he clearly has absolutely no consideration for what he's done to you by cheating.

Don't sell yourself so short.

Colchestergal · 13/10/2016 20:55

What an arsehole! Kick him back into the gutter, hold your head high and move on with your life. He is a selfish dick.

Flowers
BantyCustards · 13/10/2016 20:55

OP

He is completely responsible for his actions. He had a choice over how he reacted to your not getting help.

PoldarksBreeches · 13/10/2016 20:56

Why is she monstrous? Why shouldn't she hope that her husband doesn't end up the father of another woman's child?
I've had a very traumatic miscarriage and I don't find that comment monstrous at all.

Arfarfanarf · 13/10/2016 20:57

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Figgygal · 13/10/2016 20:57

Forget about her whether she was or wasn't pregnant doesn't actually matter but He told you in front of your ds? Unforgivable!!

CocktailQueen · 13/10/2016 20:59

He told you in front of ds?
And he wants your support?

Fuck that for a game of soldiers.
Op, he clearly doesn't sound as if he's committed to you or your relationship.

I'd think a lot about this. Do YOU want him back? You might be a lot happier without him.

Colchestergal · 13/10/2016 20:59

Your heart is pounding because you are in shock.

Don't stay with him. He's treating you like a mug and walking all over you. You deserve better.

You may have felt that your previous behaviour contributed towards your relationship breaking down but ultimately you didn't force him to shag someone else. He decided to do that.

Flowers
bloodyteenagers · 13/10/2016 20:59

He wanted friendly support and is now angry with you because you walked away? What fucking planet does he live on?

I would be telling to fuck off. He can go and find friendly support from someone else, because you owe him nothing. He should have thought about who he would get support from when he decided to go and disrespect you by fucking someone else. He should have thought about friendly support when he was jeopardising your health by having unprotected sex. Really hope that you have had yourself checked over.

It doesn't matter where you was at the time, this was no reason at all for him to find someone else. He should have thought without his dick and been there for you.

FourToTheFloor · 13/10/2016 21:00

Neon you're empathy radar us pointed the wrong way. The OW taunted OP, why the fuck shouldn't she be glad there's no child.

It's fine to blame him but ow takes half the blame IMO for also being an arsehole.

Notgoingtobeamug · 13/10/2016 21:00

I'm not glad as such that she is having a miscarriage, I'm glad she is no longer pregnant with his child - if she ever was!! I genuinely feel terrible for thinking it but no, I do t want her to have a child with him. I don't want my DS having a sibling this way!!!

She has been posting on her Instagram about going out clubbing this weekend, looking good in a bikini and how she wants to be taken out for breakfast dates- that's all in the last 24 hours.

Whilst they were publicly together she would post photos every day of them kissing, how he was her best friend, that he was spoiling her. She put awful social media updates. She is 25 and leads her whole life on social media.

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ImperialBlether · 13/10/2016 21:03

I couldn't have lived with that, OP - the way she's been with their relationship. No way. I wouldn't want him back - you're treating him like a prize and he's really, really not.

headinhands · 13/10/2016 21:08

The love of your life doesn't get other people pregnant.

Op, respect yourself.

Notgoingtobeamug · 13/10/2016 21:10

I didn't think I was being delusional at all, I didn't think he was a prize. We have talked and talked and u thought we could try. That's all. I knew it would be hard, I was under no illusion it would be happy families.

I'm so angry at him, for having un protected sex, for doing something that would have been a permanent part of my sons family. My son could have ended up with a sibling all because he couldn't be arsed to wear a condom!!

And he expects me to support him?? I said what would he do if he was me and he said he would be sympathetic! No chance.

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AnchorDownDeepBreath · 13/10/2016 21:17

There are many issues here. The most significant being him.

He had an affair. Whatever else happened, he slept with someone else for a prolonged period. Some relationships survive affairs, although no relationship survives one without two fundamental things: 1) that the person who was cheated on can forgive, to a certain extent, and 2) that the person who cheated acknowledges that it was an unforgivable thing and it has caused huge pain to their partner.

You may have forgiven him. It sounds like you've tried. You've accepted some blame for the relationship being damaged, by your previous behaviour, which may or may not be true. You've taken him back.

He doesn't appear to have done his part. He either doesn't know, or doesn't care, how much he hurt you, and how vulnerable that still is. Did he know she was pregnant? It seems unusual to message a married man that has gone back to his wife to say that you've miscarried if he didn't know you were pregnant... but anyway, he needed to tell you in the most compassionate way possible. He needed to make sure you were looked after and prepare himself for your anger and hurt, because the pregnancy was another result of his infidelity. It is another thing that HE did, that YOU suffer for.

There is no way on gods green earth that any caring man would expect "friendly support" from their wife, on hearing the news that his mistress had lost their child. None. You cannot give that support - you need support from him, in fact, because he impregnated someone else. Telling you infront of your three year old was either a sign that he didn't care enough to even think before he mentioned this, or that he wanted your reaction to be tempered by your son's presence. Rather like breaking up with someone in public so that they don't cause a scene.

So, he has an immense amount of making up to do, and to be honest, if he doesn't do something that shows that he does love and respect you, and he does care about you, I'd be packing your bags... or his. You cannot save a one sided relationship, and he will never consider your feelings. The next time his head is turned, he'll have no more restraint. I know you don't want to hear that, but it's better to hear it now than have it come out of the blue.

Next there is her. Do not respond to her. Do you know if your husband did? I'm surprised they still have contact. Is he comforting and supporting her through this? Regardless, don't be tempted to contact her. If you can, stop checking up on her on social media. She is a very easy target to offset your anger on, it will need an escape, and she did something despicable. She isn't your problem, though.

For you, you need space to let off steam and deal with the initial trauma, and the associated pain that this will bring regarding your wish for a second child. Then you need to make some hard decisions based on him, rather than how you currently feel. You will miss him, if he disappears, and you may have had a good run together. If it isn't good for you anymore, though, you're both delaying the inevitable and you won't find peace. You'll have to be permanently "on guard" incase he sacrifices your feelings for hers/someone elses/anyone. If he isn't on your side, he's against you, even if you love him.

I am so sorry for what he has done. I do think you can generally get past affairs, if both people want too. He's expecting to have an affair, then wait for you to heal it, and then have you support him when OW miscarries. If OW had had the child, would he have expected you to facilitate that, too? To have conversations with you about the name? He's made no effort. This was his error. He needed to put a hell of a lot more effort into healing it.

Sadly I suspect that he thinks you would never leave. That having him, even if you have to share him, is better than being without him. That's a dangerous thing for him to think, even if it's true.