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NoCapes thread 2 - No cape necessary

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NoCapes · 18/09/2016 13:17

Can't believe we've filled up a whole thread
But I'm still not ready to be without you all yet ...

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NoCapes · 28/10/2016 12:53

I feel ok aye I'm a bit sore Blush

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BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 28/10/2016 13:02

Keep the receipt for the MAP

BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 28/10/2016 13:03

Consensual rough sex is NOT the same as rape

GiddyOnZackHunt · 28/10/2016 13:03

You were clear. You may have been tipsy but not out of it. And if you were out of it you couldn't have consented.
Think about the cup of tea analogy. You may have previously drunk tea with sugar. You refused his offer of a cup of tea and not only did he force you to drink tea, he put a bowlful of sugar in.

Ayeok · 28/10/2016 13:06

Oh love, have you taken some painkillers? Just for the record, previously "liking it rough" is not and will never be an excuse for what he did, nor is having had a drink or kissing him back. Sexual preferences are entirely personal to you, but no means no. Simple as that. Nothing you said, did or liked previously led to this. None of this is your fault. There's been some really useful advice on here, I hope it's helping to you plan your next move, whatever that is. No judging here, not ever, just lots of support Flowers

Ayeok · 28/10/2016 13:12

I didn't mean to sound snooty about "sexual preference is personal to you", I read it back and it sounded wrong. What I mean is that it doesn't matter if you'd still been together and had consensual rough sex 5 minutes earlier, it's still not ok to do what he did, let alone the way he did it. It wasn't meant to be judgy at all, quite the opposite.

Lynnm63 · 28/10/2016 13:24

It doesn't matter if your sexual preferences are to swing from the chandeliers wearing a gimp mask. If you'd had consensual rough sex five minutes earlier , irrelevant. You said NO. END OF, NO IFS NO BUTS. He's a rapist whether he believes that or not. You've been separated a month. The fact he'd texted me would make me more determined to report him.

skyyequake · 28/10/2016 13:26

Hey Capes I'm back, I was having a down moment this morning but I went to a coffee morning run by the DA charity and am feeling better.

So now, with a less pessimistic view, I can say that I reported to the police. And all I reported was that he had threatened to harass me. He hadn't yet, but had threatened to, and they took me seriously. It was purely based on my word, no evidence to speak of, but its all recorded now so if he ever steps it up a notch I have that fall back to say "look, this has happened before." Your XP has done something, something much much worse. It might not go to court due to lack of evidence but it will be recorded, he will be on their radar. They will most likely investigate which will include talking to him. Just that much may make him realise that you're not going to put up with this anymore. Plus the police will put you in contact with the domestic abuse charity near you and believe me when I say that they do the world of good for you. They make you realise that you're not alone, you will meet people who have gone through or are going through the same or similar. Its so relaxing to be able to discuss it with people who don't just give you this look Shock but who understand and empathise. Because for us it's normal, but for most it's not. Having a support group means you can share that normal with people and come to terms with the fact that whilst this may be your normal, that doesn't mean it's right. If you don't report, please contact Women's Aid or a local organisation directly, because believe me they are the biggest source of support I have found, and a large reason that I haven't gone back to my XP. You will make friends, and more importantly, you will make friends where you don't feel like you have to hide what's been going on, because they get it.

You have done amazingly well on your own. But you don't have to be on your own anymore Capes. You can ask for help, you can talk about it, you don't have to live a life of just dealing with it. Join a Freedom Programme, go to a coffee morning, or group counselling, or anything which gets you among people who have experienced this. Its 1 in 4 women Capes, that's so many amazing women who know what you're going through, who you can reach out to. He is still taking up so much for your time and thoughts. Once you can open up and offload to people you will move on your journey away from him. You will find friends and a new life, you might have to see him for the kids, but one day you will go days without him even entering your head.

Being strong doesn't always mean burying your feelings and keeping on going. Sometimes being strong is crying your eyes out in a room full of strangers and feeling more support and understanding than you ever felt with him. Sometimes being strong is blurting it all out and laughing about it afterwards. Sometimes its letting yourself feel again, and knowing that even though it hurts now, one day it won't anymore.

He's cut you deep, and a cut that deep can't just be left to heal on it's own. It needs to be examined and cleaned out and stitched up. It hurts, but it helps, and in the end it helps you heal.

It's your choice whether to report it or not. But I am begging you, please reach out to a charity, please find some support within this wonderful community we have made. We're not victims, we're survivors. But that doesn't mean we keep quiet about it. It means we realise that its not our fault, it's them. It's all them. As my Freedom runner would say "the nasty bastards".

You're amazing Capes. Don't keep his secrets anymore. Look after yourself, you are worth it. Your little toe is worth more than his entire being. Let yourself shine. FlowersFlowersFlowers

Ayeok · 28/10/2016 13:56

www.freedomprogramme.co.uk/

GabsAlot · 28/10/2016 14:11

oh capes im so sorry

its still rape even if u know the person or married ot them it doesnt matter if youve had sex before this wasnt consensual

please report him

HardcoreLadyType · 28/10/2016 14:20

Oh, Capes!

Please don't go on the spa day. It doesn't come without strings. This is what he expects in return. Sad

Flowers for you.

helenatroy · 28/10/2016 14:33

Perhaps you needed to go there to finally understand that he is the dictionary definition of an abuser. He crosses lines all the time who can now add rape to his armoury. You need to go NC. When I think oif you I think of Helen from the Archers. Rape in relationships is still a crime and is regarded as such. Get your mum around if you haven't already, lick your wounds and start the road to recovery. I hope you feel better soon.

Lynnm63 · 28/10/2016 14:50

I forgot the spa day was this weekend. I agree, don't go. In his mind it will be seen as putting this assault behind you.
Glad to see both sky and aye back on here.

rainbowstardrops · 28/10/2016 14:57

I'm another one who doesn't think you should go to the spa day now he's done this to you.

It would seem like sending mixed messsges to me.

I also hope you've thought about at least telling your mum what happened.

I worry that if you let this slide away then he'll never realise how appallingly bad his behaviour is.

At the very least, you might stop some other woman falling foul to his behaviour in the future.

Hope you're ok

myfriendnigel · 28/10/2016 15:30

Great post sky.that made me cry a bit.

NoCapes · 28/10/2016 16:34

Me too nige thankyou for that sky - I hope you're ok Flowers

I'm not going to go tomorrow
I've told my Mum we're not going and when she asked why I just said because he was being a knob which she accepted

I didn't read your post as judge atall aye

Hurrah for the return of Giddys analogy corner Grin

And don't worry I know whatever I like during consensual sex makes absolutely no difference here, but I'm sure that's what he's thinking it was - just rough sex Hmm

I haven't text him, I keep going to write it and not knowing what to say - what the hell do I say?!

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