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Fiancé didn't come home last night

577 replies

Jemima1985 · 11/09/2016 21:45

My finance went it last night, I dropped him at the pub and 2am he text me saying he was at his mates house and he'll be home soon! He is still not home (it's nearly 10pm) now next night and I'm worried sick. His mum said she saw him with 3 lads at 11.30am and he ran past her house so she thinks he is probably asleep at a mates house sleeping off a hangover. I can't help but worry myself sick and think the worst

OP posts:
clam · 12/09/2016 14:03

This talk about your "path" is self-indulgent romantic nonsense. The hard facts of this are that he is not as committed to your relationship as you are and, worse, is putting you through some awful shit while he careers through life like an overgrown schoolboy.

Anyway, all the minimising language you are using already tells me that there is no way you are going to do the sensible thing here and ditch this bloke. So, good luck with it all (I'm afraid you're going to need it) and we'll see you back on here in a month/year or two, maybe under a name-change, complaining about the same, or worse, behaviour.

PointlessUsername · 12/09/2016 14:03

Even his Excuse is Shit.

Cameforarant22 · 12/09/2016 14:11

Don't be a mug, he won't change. My ex did this , not regular but maybe yearly or every few months. You sound like his mother not his girlfriend, leave him to it he clearly isn't thinking of you and has a lot of growing up to do. It's not hard to send a brief text explaining your plans it's what grown ups do !

HuskyLover1 · 12/09/2016 14:32

Short of being in a coma in hospital, there is NO excuse for this behaviour.

He had a mobile. Even if the battery was flat, the house would have had a landline.

You didn't hear from him, because he was out having fun and you aren't important enough to him, for him to call. He knew you'd be worried. He didn't care.

FGS, do not marry this man. Or have any babies with him. He's a self centered idiot, who treats you like crap.

clam · 12/09/2016 14:38

I doubt the OP will be back. She won't like what EVERYONE is telling her, because she's just not ready to hear it.

But, Jemima, just in case you're lurking, think about why you're not prepared to come on and tell us what he says when he finally turns up and agrees to talk to you. It will be because you know deep-down that it's all a crock of shit.

Think about that for a moment.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 12/09/2016 14:46

OP is at work, giving her a hard time for not responding is a bit much.
Having said that, it does seem like she is looking for excuses to forgive him, and should heed everyone's advice.

clam · 12/09/2016 14:56

I wasn't giving her a hard time for not having responded recently - I do acknowledge there is such a thing as Real Life - but I was predicting that she may well not update in future.

I mean, if I'm honest, I'd not feel comfortable about coming back later to say, "it's all OK, now, he's apologised and we're back on."

Offline · 12/09/2016 15:02

Clam, that sounds really horrible, speculating that an OP won't so what you and other posters insist she MUST do.

It's haranguing people, not giving advice.

Ninasimoneinthemorning · 12/09/2016 15:06

You should listen to his mother - she has the real measure of her own son

LeaveMyWingsBehindMe · 12/09/2016 15:06

She will either be at work or Having The Conversation.

I am going to guess that she will come back later with an update of sorts but I think it will short and vague and it won't address all the obvious elephants in the room but she will make a few of the right noises about not standing for it in future, because she knows that's what we want to hear.

And then nothing will change. But ultimately, that's her decision and her problem. We can't force her to see sense if she's desperate to get married at all costs.

clam · 12/09/2016 15:13

I haven't seen any of us "insist" she must do anything.
But some of us have been around the block a few times, both on MN and in real life, and I've seen this scenario many times before.

Offline · 12/09/2016 15:25

Yes, some of us have indeed been round the block, and can remember that it took a while to catch up and see the situation as others do, and to develop out of a victim situation. I think your post of 14.03 comes across as sneery, dismissive of the OP, victim blaming, and not the way Women's Aid, for example, suggests that friend's of women with bad partners talk to them.

That is my opinion.

You have yours.

LeaveMyWingsBehindMe · 12/09/2016 15:31

It's not awful at all Offline sometimes people need to hear the truth, un-sugar coated, as harsh as it might be. That's the beauty of being strangers on a forum instead of sitting in front of a RL friend, where there is a need for some diplomacy. We don't care if she doesn't like us for saying what needs to be said - we just want her to listen.

The OP is at a very obvious crossroads in this relationship now unless she's been there before, more times than she's letting on. She can choose the right path or the wrong one. But if she chooses the wrong one she has a lifetime of this crap to look forward to, or at least a few more years until he gets bored and abandons her for someone else.

EVERY SINGLE PERSON on this thread can see with alarming clarity what she is refusing to see. This is her chance to let the scales fall from her eyes and walk away.

Eight months off a wedding date is ages. The closer it gets and the more invested in it she becomes, the harder it will be to walk away from shitty behaviour. Which means that each week the wedding gets closer, the worse he can behave and her dignity be eroded time and time again because HE KNOWS that she wants that wedding. He will be pushing her to see just how desperate she is, and he can do as he pleases because he has her over a barrel.

If you keep issuing ultimatums and final warnings and then never follow them through, not only are they a worthless currency but they actually send a signal to the person who is treating you badly that there is literally no limit to how badly they can treat you, because you will never be brave enough to walk away.

Ninasimoneinthemorning · 12/09/2016 15:44

I agree with leave I've known a couple of girls and posters on here (that came back to post after they were married) who continued with the wedding plans because they didn't want to back out of their big day even though the HTB was being a complete prick.

Things never ever change just because there is acting on a finger - infact it gets worse as there is the stress of 'making it work for the marriage' so ultimately the women puts up with way more shit.

Then add kids to the mix and it's just bloody awful.

op With the best of intentions you need to get out now while you can and there are no kids to get messed up.

Fidelia · 12/09/2016 15:56

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Heebiejeebie · 12/09/2016 16:24

The Samaritans advocate active listening, rather than advice. Better to give people space to work through to their own conclusions, because if you give people instructions (based on a snippet of their lives) they may feel embarrassed if they don't 'do as they're told' making it less likely that they'll return for support in the future.

I think predicting lack of toeing the advice line is further in that wrong direction. - OP might be reading it as 'you won't do what I say because you're weak'. It is not often a simple, snap decision to call off a long term relationship and a wedding. To suddenly, utterly accept that the person you have invested so much in isn't worth it.

Mummyoflittledragon · 12/09/2016 16:31

You are right Heebie. Op isn't ready at the moment. Her posts illustrate that this morning. 8am - angry, 8.03 yeh but and then a couple more in quick succession only to say this was the plan of her life. And that's fine. It is her life. It can get very annoying for others to see her not complying when they really want the best for her. However they can't make that call for her.

Offline · 12/09/2016 16:32

"sometimes people need to hear the truth, un-sugar coated, as harsh as it might be"

I agree. An objective perspective. But it crosses the line when people start saying 'but you won't so this, you'll just suck it up and be here whinging...' that is conjecture, an accusation, etc.

No professional counsellor behaves like this. Because it is not helpful or constructive. People behind a keyboard can offer a blunt truth from the way they see it, they can also easily be unkind and unpleasant.

Sorry for the de-rail, OP.

I will leave you to your thoughts and decisions.

Overthinker2016 · 12/09/2016 16:33

You are right Heebie.

However you can't expect people to keep on supporting you emotionally if you are unwilling to heed their advice and keep on making poor decisions. Friends get tired of all the drama. That applies in real life as well as on Internet forums!

Heebiejeebie · 12/09/2016 16:40

Well, perhaps if an individual poster is 'tired of all the drama' they should think about not posting any more instead of berating the OP

madgingermunchkin · 12/09/2016 16:43

OP, this thread is what your life will turn into if you don't kick this useless arse to the kerb now.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2729761-He-hasnt-come-home?pg=1&order=

Do you really want to be in the same position as that OP?!

Mumite · 12/09/2016 16:47

Wow - just checked back in here and there were about two hundred messages last night and now there are about twice as many.

I will work my way back but it looks from the last messages as though the fiance still hasn't been back? OP I am sure you are not going through an easy time at the moment. How would you feel if he hadn't been out partying/taking drugs but had had some other manifestation of depression e.g. he had tried to kill himself or had disappeared for a long (two day) walk? You might feel more sorry for him or inclined to help...but would you, in your heart of hearts, think that marrying him was the best idea?

I guess what I am trying to say is you can be a friend to someone without tying your life to theirs...and this is the best case scenario, really, that he is someone vulnerable in need of help rather than an inconsiderate selfish man.

Anyway I hope you're doing Ok and hope the police were sympathetic when you reported him missing, if you did indeed.

Mumite · 12/09/2016 16:47

Wow - just checked back in here and there were about two hundred messages last night and now there are about twice as many.

I will work my way back but it looks from the last messages as though the fiance still hasn't been back? OP I am sure you are not going through an easy time at the moment. How would you feel if he hadn't been out partying/taking drugs but had had some other manifestation of depression e.g. he had tried to kill himself or had disappeared for a long (two day) walk? You might feel more sorry for him or inclined to help...but would you, in your heart of hearts, think that marrying him was the best idea?

I guess what I am trying to say is you can be a friend to someone without tying your life to theirs...and this is the best case scenario, really, that he is someone vulnerable in need of help rather than an inconsiderate selfish man.

Anyway I hope you're doing Ok and hope the police were sympathetic when you reported him missing, if you did indeed.

Ninasimoneinthemorning · 12/09/2016 16:48

Didn't realise posters had to pretend or act like fully trained councillors - most people here just go off life experience AND some people get exasperated when they can see full well by the op language it's not going to make an ounce of difference.

I don't think any one on this thread has been a keyboard warrior tbf

Heebiejeebie · 12/09/2016 16:56

If you feel exasperated when your posting doesn't immediately result in your desired outcome, then you have a choice to deal with that feeling yourself or put it onto the distressed OP.