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Confused about breakup want him back :(

130 replies

Gracey1231 · 29/08/2016 00:22

First post lol!

6 weeks ago my boyfriend of 11 months and I had a huuuuge argument, where I said something nasty just to hurt him, I have done this before and said I'd stop but as usual it flew out. Anyway, we didn't speak for a week to cool down and he eventually text me like I don't want to end it I love you blah blah blah, on numerous occasions we arranged to see eachother again and he said to me he just wants his own space at the minute, he is scared his feelings have changed towards me, he doesn't feel the same as he did, he feels bad about us because after the arguments and this massive bad one has taken his toll on him.

He left me on Friday (26/08/16) officially and said he had to let me go because he isn't ready to see me yet and can't keep me waiting any longer as it's cruel. Me being a total girl was pleading etc and I said how can I get you back and he said it's too late, I asked him after that if it's forever that we aren't together and he said "I don't know" and that he doesn't want me to just disappear and still wants to talk. I spoke to his mum about us splitting up and she said to me that he said he needs to see if his bad feelings change and doesn't want me hanging on to a maybe, and that he hopes we can stay friends and talk still but is unsure whether he is ready to be with me right now but still has feelings for me.

I messaged him the night he left like "do you still love me" and he read it but didn't reply, I changed my whatsapp photo as it was us two and as soon as I did he messaged me saying "I'll keep our picture just I don't think being together isn't a good idea at the moment" but he doesn't want to be with another girl.

He asked for space and I pushed him like begging to see him etc instead of playing it cool and taking it slowly. Apparently he still has feelings for me. He still has me and him as his whatsapp photo and has been online since just not messaged me.

I love him to pieces and I'm changing my ways, I took him for granted and I really want him back haha :(

Gonna try not to contact him and let him message me first because me "spamming" him with texts caused us to bicker abit in the relationship anyway.

What are my chances of getting him back? And will no contact work maybe make him think of the good instead of the bad, (he still has feelings for me) whilst I sort myself out and become less needy and strong.

I'm gonna not text him until he texts me but I'll send him a birthday card next week, just a simple one.

Help me :( Is it too late?

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Gracey1231 · 30/08/2016 09:21

It isn't a red flag for anything other than me thinking pleading was a good idea.

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Cabrinha · 30/08/2016 09:31

Why do you think it's a good idea though?
Why do you want him back when he physically assaulted you, just like your previous abuser?
Serious question, and one I hope you are asking yourself with your counsellor.

Gracey1231 · 30/08/2016 09:34

I don't know why I thought it was a good idea. He wasn't like the others

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Advicepls7080 · 30/08/2016 10:05

She is emotionally abusive though, because someone has been abused before doesn't mean they can never be abusive

Gracey1231 · 30/08/2016 10:13

I'm not emotionally abusive for fuck sake, emotional abuse is going into a mood for nothing as well, on the odd chance we had a big argument I'd call him a nasty name or something, not emotionally abuse him you don't know what I've said what he's said or the ins and outs of our relationship. I haven't emotionally abused anyone ever

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TheLastRoseOfSummer · 30/08/2016 10:21

I have copied this from the sticky on the front page. I will highlight the parts that are relevant to your behaviour and to his behaviour. Let's leave labels of 'emotionally abusive' aside for the moment and look at the behaviours alone. (and hope the highlighting works!)

Every person deserves to have a relationship where they are treated with respect, love and equality.

There is never an excuse for verbal, physical or financial abuse.

If you partner treats you like shit, it is their fault. It is not because of something you have done.

You can't change an abusive man by being 'better' or sticking by him where others haven't, or by changing yourself.

Most people have happy relationships, where disagreements happen and are resolved without resorting to shouting, name calling or violence or screwing someone else.

Most people's partners are happy for them to pursue their own friendships and interests, work and education, have access to money, make decisions.

Most people in a relationship stay faithful. They don't have affairs or cyber-sex or obsessively wank over porn day and night.

Don't be fooled into thinking that dysfunctional relationships are the norm. There are many of them on here, but then people don't tend to ask for advice on healthy relationships, so we hear less about them.

Relationships are not supposed to be hard work, that is a big fat myth. Yes, you should work at your relationship but that is not the same thing at all.

Nobody should live their life in fear of angering their partner, or skirting round issues that might upset him. Or put up with cheating and lying for fear of rocking the boat.

Nobody should 'stay together for the children', or because of your marriage vows. If your husband treats you badly, he has broken the vows. Children are much much happier being brought up by parents who live apart than in an atmosphere of fear and loathing.

Just because you've escaped a level 10 bastard, doesn't mean you should settle for the level 8 one that comes along. The only acceptable level of abuse is none. (re: the slapping)

Just because all your friends are in bad relationships, doesn't mean that you have to be.

I really want to debunk the myth that all men are bastards. They simply aren't. If you feel that all the men you meet are, it's because you are unconsciously sending out vibes to these men. They can spot a target a mile off.

Be on your own. It is much easier than sticking by a tosser. If you have been in more than one abusive relationship, seek some counselling, you may be co-dependant, or you may be modelling relationships on a warped template, perhaps from childhood.

If he abuses you, he is not a good father. Good fathers don't treat the mother of their children with disrespect.

It doesn't matter how much he says sorry and makes it up to you, if he continues to abuse you those apologies are worthless.

Don't be fooled into thinking the abuse isn't 'bad enough to leave'. If you are treated in any way less than cherished, loved and respected, it is bad enough to leave.

There is never a reason to stay with an abusive man. He won't kill himself if you leave him, he won't take your children, and yes, everybody will believe you.

Leaving individual and personal labels aside, this is not healthy relationship.

TheLastRoseOfSummer · 30/08/2016 10:21

ah crap knew that wouldn't work!

Basically you are demonstrating all the behaviours I've asterisked.

Cabrinha · 30/08/2016 10:25

Nasty name calling even in an argument is abusive. You referred to a difficult past - which makes me guess that you grew up in a family where such name calling was acceptable.
You can explore that with your counsellor if you like.

The last nasty name calling I did was probably age 12 calling my brother a smelly poo bum. Adults do not have to use abusive names.

The most pressing issue though, is that you recognise that this arsehole is like the others... do not maintain any contact with a man who hit you.

Gracey1231 · 30/08/2016 10:25

So I abuse someone physically verbally and financially?
I treat him like shit? I seriously never treated him like shit, I lost my temper a couple of times, not fucking verbal abuse you do not know me or what I said, and abusive fathers? Don't know where that's come from love I've never mentioned being abused by my dad

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Gracey1231 · 30/08/2016 10:26

Nope my childhood was wonderful and no one in my household used bad words to describe eachother, funny how you can make such assumptions. My difficult past was regarding previous relationships :)

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TheLastRoseOfSummer · 30/08/2016 10:27

FFS.

I started by saying I'd copied it from the sticky post on the front page of the thread.

Is this how the arguments start with you being deliberately goady and 'not understanding' simple things that are said to you?

TheLastRoseOfSummer · 30/08/2016 10:29

Or being deliberately picky and ignoring the relevant things that are said to you in favour of picking at the one or two things that are not?

Gracey1231 · 30/08/2016 10:29

Nope, I just am getting pretty sick of being informed that I'm abusive by someone online who doesn't know me, I know my own problems, I never treated him like shit, our arguments would happen then they'd just blow over, except the last one. That didn't

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TheLastRoseOfSummer · 30/08/2016 10:30

The point is that that post highlights the features of abusive relationships and many of those features could be observed in yours. Mainly from you but also from him.

Sort yourself out and grow up.

Cabrinha · 30/08/2016 10:30

Why are you being so awkward?
Why is it funny I would make the assumption that you accept nasty name calling because you grew up with it?
If course my assumption could be wrong, but it's hardly outlandish!

So... where did you decide or learn that the way to conduct yourself in an argument was to throw abuse at someone?

Past relationships, right?
So... Those were shit. Why repeat the behaviour of them?

If your childhood was wonderful, wouldn't it be nice to have adult relationships that are wonderful too?

Ones where you don't accept being hit and plead with a man who hits you to take you back.

Stay away from relationships until you are only prepared to accept wonderful.

TheLastRoseOfSummer · 30/08/2016 10:30

Well that's because, eventually, people get sick of putting up with the shit and they end it.

Gracey1231 · 30/08/2016 10:34

I wish that I had videod my relationship now to prove it wasn't all bad, he slapped me once, I insulted him about 3 times. We apologised before then and sorted it except this last time

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TheNaze73 · 30/08/2016 10:39

The relationship sounds toxic OP. There is never an excuse for his appalling behaviour in hitting you & likewise, your continual emotional & manipulative abuse is uncalled for. The fact that 95% of posters are saying the same thing & you're not wanting to listen, take things out of context & appear to be deliberately goady, says it all

TheLastRoseOfSummer · 30/08/2016 10:43

6 weeks ago my boyfriend of 11 months and I had a huuuuge argument, where I said something nasty just to hurt him, I have done this before and said I'd stop but as usual it flew out.

he said to me he just wants his own space at the minute, he is scared his feelings have changed towards me, he doesn't feel the same as he did, he feels bad about us because after the arguments and this massive bad one has taken his toll on him.

Me being a total girl was pleading etc and I said how can I get you back and he said it's too late

He asked for space and I pushed him like begging to see him etc

Gonna try not to contact him and let him message me first because me "spamming" him with texts caused us to bicker abit in the relationship anyway.

But during arguments I'd say something unkind because I was hurt. I have apologised a million times

These are quotes from your op. These are the things (amongst others) that people are responding to on here. This is the impression you have given strangers on the internet about yourself. This is what you have told people about your relationship. These are all bad.

he slapped me once once should be your line in the sand.

TheLastRoseOfSummer · 30/08/2016 10:45

Abusive/toxic relationships are never all bad.

QueenLizIII · 30/08/2016 11:57

I can see why arguments with her bf escalate out of control as she just cannot take anyone's point of view on board.

So now we are down to only 3 instances in 11 months where she said something nasty and he hit her for one of those.

If it was only 3 instances, then maybe she hasnt pushed him away, he is just not that into the relationship and never was if only 3 instances caused that.

Gracey1231 · 30/08/2016 12:32

It's this argument that's pushed him away. Because of how it ended with the hitting etc

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SandyY2K · 30/08/2016 12:37

You are terribly defensive and don't take on board what you're being told. I can see you being defensive as you feel attacked and that's a natural reaction, but you need to take a step back for a bit.

You seeking professional help now, seems like it's only because he's ended it. Why didn't you seek help before?

Why are you discussing things with his mum?

The three times you've said nasty things ... is it the same nasty thing or something different every time?

I don't know what you're looking for here. If it's how to get him back, you won't find that here.

Thefitfatty · 30/08/2016 12:45

He slapped you. End of. Walk away. Nothing good will come of this relationship. Work on your temper, but stay away from him.

In the future be aware that calling someone nasty names is emotionally abusive, whether it's every day or 3 times in 11 months. It's not right.

TheLastRoseOfSummer · 30/08/2016 12:49

It sounds, from your last post, as though him ending was a response to the fact he slapped you.

It's never acceptable to hit someone, however much they goad or provoke you, and if he feels unable to now control himself around you, then actually he has done a very good thing by walking away.