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What a prick! Pissed offwith me because I've got my period.

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FindingSmeagol · 21/08/2016 15:12

I've been away from Dp for a week with dd 2. It was only meant to be a couple of nights but she ended up in hospital for one night with an infection (absolutely fine now) so I went from there to my family as I knew he'd be working and I wanted some support. First morning home and he notices San pro in the bathroom and says 'oh ffs your kidding?!' Um no these things happen monthly and no I've no control over it Hmm. I said 'you are Joking right? He's not. He feels cheated out of another few days of sex because he knows I'm not up for it in the first few days. Not really an AIBU. Just a 'what a cockwoble' klaxon type rant. Agh and breathe.

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mathanxiety · 23/08/2016 07:24

Degradation is abuse.

mathanxiety · 23/08/2016 07:26

Do call Women's Aid.

They do not judge. They are there to support and listen.

DesolateWaist · 23/08/2016 07:31

I woke up thinking of you today.
How was last night?

He said that you won't be able to have sex for a few days now. Does that mean he's away? Could this be a chance to contact Women's Aid or another charity?

Poppyred85 · 23/08/2016 08:37

You're doing so well OP. I can't imagine what it must be like reading the posts you're getting and realising how others see your relationship perhaps echoes some of your deepest fears about it. Some posters have been more blunt or forceful than others and I think it's important that you know that not immediately packing a bag and leaving doesn't make you complicit in his abuse of you. I agree with others that it is very disturbing to read how he treats you and my heart breaks for you to be going through this. Please know that whenever you decide to act (and bear in mind that when a relationship is physically abusive it takes on average 35 attacks before a partner tries to leave) no one is going to judge you for not acting sooner.
Someone up thread mentioned you saying no to being like saying no to a cup of tea and it reminded me of this video:
m.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbei5JGiT8
It may be helpful to watch it. Sending you lots of virtual hugs. Please take care of yourself and your daughter.

Lilacpink40 · 23/08/2016 09:00

Very good link.
Another thing to imagine: You're away from DP and DD is ill. He's regularly in contact to see how she is.You want to stay longer, and he says he can sort out things in house and reassures you. He listens when you come back and makes sure DD and you are ok. He realises you have period. He offers hot drink, foot massage, some act of kindness. He tells you that he missed being with you. If he mentions sex it's about missing cuddles and sex because he loves you.

OK this is one version of normality, but just to say things shouldn't be all about him. You are a person he should treasure.

FindingSmeagol · 23/08/2016 09:49

I am absolutely taking this on board. I've woken up feeling so sad, angry and confused. I've dropped dd of at nursery and called in sick. I'm going to read all the latest comments and get some headspace outside my home.

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Icallbullshit3 · 23/08/2016 09:59

Good! That's a really positive step hun!

ElspethFlashman · 23/08/2016 10:04

So you clearly were in physical pain and you were relieved he wasn't groping you? That you got away with a few "get on your knees" comments and him putting you on warning it couldn't be much longer?

Shock

This is so not what happens in other people's relationships!

VinoTime · 23/08/2016 10:05

Reading through this thread has genuinely made my stomach roll.

OP, please get away from this man. He's not a good egg. He doesn't respect you or your body.

You're not his play thing. Tell him no. Then tell him to fuck off.

You sound scared of him Sad

NoMudNoLotus · 23/08/2016 10:05

Excellent , well done lovely.

iknowimcoming · 23/08/2016 10:16

So pleased you're taking some time out for yourself, it'll be difficult to process all the information at first and it may take you a while to unravel all the things that you've been made to perceive as normal, but you won't regret it I promise, wishing you the strength you need to make a better life for you and dd Flowers

AliceScarlett · 23/08/2016 10:25

Well done you for taking this seriously and facing up to the reality of the situation. It's very easy to be in denial and I think it shows just how strong you are that you are not just burying your head in the sand.

FindingSmeagol · 23/08/2016 10:38

Some posters asked if I'm scared of him and in a sence I am. Not of him lashing out but I'm scared of the way he can make me feel during an argument. He finds it near on impossible to apologise (it's a long standing joke in his family) for anything and is very good at arguing whereas without sounding too much like a wet blanket I cry which I hate doing in front of him or anyone for that matter and i often end up agreeing with his points.

Someone asked about how he was raised. His Dad was very much of the sexist old school and was always telling disgusting sexist jokes and made no attempt to hide the fact he thinks women are there for the satisfaction of men. My Dp actually prides himself on not Being like this and tell me very often that men in general are bad and I'm lucky I've got a good one Hmm. When I was much younger I wholeheartedly agreed but more resent lay I've been questioning this.

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FindingSmeagol · 23/08/2016 10:39

Sorry for the appalling spelling and grammar!

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tiredvommachine · 23/08/2016 10:41

This isn't normal in a healthy relationship Smeagol Flowers

pictish · 23/08/2016 10:42

More crude 'get on your knees ' type things but he hasn't started touching me.

Oh OP I feel so so sad for you. A single crude 'get on your knees' comment would make me gip. That he throws these out as a matter of course appalls me.

He constantly defines you as being for sex and owing him sex. He's an utter pest.

Most of us do not go through what you are describing. His demands and persistence are not those of a well adjusted man and it's not what you should expect or tolerate in a relationship. He has all but eradicated the boundaries you have every right to have.

I'm sorry you feel so shaken and conflicted today, I can only imagine how your mind is racing. But mostly I am glad to know that you still have a little something of those boundaries left and that your self respect is working hard to protect you.

Time out sounds good. xx

FindingSmeagol · 23/08/2016 10:43

lilacpink your alternative for the hospital senario really touched me. I'm not so in denial that I knew he was being a selfish prick that day. When I called to say dd was well and being discharged he said 'great you can come home then, you've already been away days longer than you said' I stood my ground and explained if I did come home it wouldn't be for me or dd, only for him and that I actually wanted to spend a little more time with family. He hung up and then called back later to apologise. It wasn't an easy decision to make.

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pictish · 23/08/2016 10:54

Well there you go...it's instrinsic to him. So much so, that he reckons he's nothing like his dad!
That women give it up to service the cock on demand is innate. It's fundamental to his belief system.

I don't know that there's much you can do about that.

FindingSmeagol · 23/08/2016 10:54

It genuinely scares me to think he believes he has ownership over my body but you have all made me think about this. I want to experiment with my hair as in cut and colour it . I haven't for years because I know it'd upset him and every time I discuss it with him he tells me not to change it, that I'd regret it, that I wouldn't suit shorter hair etc and i listen. Same for piercings and tattoos. I go in and out of wanting them but I don't because of him. He says he likes the fact my body of so untouched and pure and these would ruin it. I'm well aware that sounds awful and I really do sound like a complete sap now. So embarrassing.

It's lovely to get some space away from everything. I'm sitting alone in a park and just trying to be honest with myself.

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Lweji · 23/08/2016 10:57

You're not a sap.

You are someone who considers the other person's feelings. Unlike him.

He completely disregards your feelings, disguised as concern and love for you.

NotYoda · 23/08/2016 11:00

no you are not a sap. You have only been with him. He's nice a lot of the time. Like most of us women, you've absorbed messages about sexual availability that were around even well before porn was so readily available.

And what Lweji said. like most of us, you've been brought up to consider other people's feelingS, though for some of us, it's at the expense of putting our own first

NotYoda · 23/08/2016 11:02

Also, he's clever, he says things that sound nice, that flatter you. Many of us don't have the self-esteem to see through that, are not born with it of never had anyone to teach us what true self-esteem and assertiveness are

ElspethFlashman · 23/08/2016 11:06

It also sounds like he's been able to be like this his entire adult life. That's a big reinforcement.

toptoe · 23/08/2016 11:09

Listen, wondering whether it's abuse or not is probably a bit early for you. I didn't work out I was being abused until a good year or so after my abusive relationship ended. You find your own way there.

But for now ask yourself this: would you do this to another person? If not, why? The answer is: it's unkind and degrading.

He's being unkind. All the stuff about him being a new man, not like his dad etc etc. Is all bullshit because you know differently at home. He is crude, degrading, gets you to do things you don't like/want to do, gets huffy if you don't. Someone doesn't have to hit you to be unkind. They can do it in lots of other ways.

I think this is the moment when you decide: will I ever let him do it to me again when I don't want it? I don't think he will ever accept that you should have a choice - you will never convince him of this. Any argument or discussion will end up the way it always has - with you apologising to him and nodding away whilst he tells you how you have done wrong. You do this just to end the row more than likely, though probably end up sort of convinced it was you who was in the wrong.

So, he won't change. Look at yourself as if you were another person, or pretend you are a loving mother to yourself. What would you do for that person? You'd want to save them from a lifetime of this unkind, degrading behaviour. So do that.

NigellasGuest · 23/08/2016 11:09

Enjoy your time in the sun, OP.
give yourself time and space to process everything.
I really admire you.