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Has anyone's relationship survived their partner kissing someone else?

73 replies

minime88 · 14/08/2016 14:46

Just that really.

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AgainPlease · 14/08/2016 23:28

Yes, I also wouldn't question arriving home at 4:30. When DH out with work colleagues it usually goes well in to the morning - drinks, dinner, drinks, club, mates/colleagues house for more drinks and food and a lot of sitting around talking shit. I know this because I often get calls from DH at 3am saying "Just one more drink and I'll be home" and I can hear all his mates in the background making crass comments or calling him whipped for ringing me Hmm

Dozer · 14/08/2016 23:30

They sound charming!

DoloresVanCartier · 14/08/2016 23:54

Sounds like a drunken kiss but I'm a total bitch so I would be contacting kisser.

"I'm not sure at which point you thought it acceptable to engage in sexual contact with my husband last night, however now is your opportunity to do the right thing and tell me exactly what happened"

Or summat like that.

Sorry you're dealing with this op

StillDrSethHazlittMD · 15/08/2016 08:14

I'm not sure I totally agree with AF that never going out with work again is unrealistic. I'm now 42 and aside from Christmas lunches (within working hours) and two retirement drinks, I have never socialised with work colleagues outside of work. I see my work colleagues for 40-odd hours a week and that's quite enough (and that's been the same in every place I have worked). Outside of work I want to see people I don't see 40-hours a week. But there's a difference between telling someone they can't do something ever again and personal choice.

Switching job? Why? The problem isn't at work during office hours but when he goes out on the lash (very sad in people that age). He could switch job, go out with new colleagues and the same thing happen or the same girl could come along to those socials and you'd be no wiser.

I'd be more inclined to say "keep the job but no socialising at all with work colleagues unless I'm present". His response to that will probably tell you all you need to know about whether this is a one off drunken event.

AnyFucker · 15/08/2016 08:33

The point is that if you have to issue demands like "you are not allowed to socialise with work colleagues ever again" then your relationship is worth duck all

If your other half cannot police his (or her) own behaviour then there is a huge problem. Personally, I would not do it. I want an equal partner, not a grounded teenager.

AnyFucker · 15/08/2016 08:34

And when does it stop ? Never allowed to go out with mates either ?

StillDrSethHazlittMD · 15/08/2016 09:12

AF agree with that, you shouldn't need to issue any sort of ultimatum, although on most threads on MN concerning actual affairs (emotional or otherwise) where someone wants to try again the almost unanimous cry is that the partner who was cheated on MUST insist on XY and Z and the cheated partner MUST do all that for as long as the other partner wants. The only advice in my book is LTB in those situations, but there we are!

BarbaraRoberts · 15/08/2016 09:39

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AnyFucker · 15/08/2016 10:36

Me too, Seth.

I believe in giving a partner all the freedom to make the decisions that sit well with them. If that doesn't concur with my own boundaries, then the only thing to do is to remove myself.

hellsbellsmelons · 15/08/2016 11:27

I'm not sure I'd be too bothered about a random drunken snog.
I think it would depend on who it was with and what their relationship was like outside of this.

gildedcage · 15/08/2016 15:55

As an adult I'd be pretty insulted to be told who I could go out with and til what time. Even my parents never did that once I got passed 18.

The issue here is trust. Can you trust that this was a one off mistake that won't happen again. It doesn't really matter what our respective thoughts are on a drunken snog as only you can decide how much relevance this had. You may want to over look it but I can guarantee you'll be thinking about it next time he goes out. If it didn't bother you you wouldn't have posted.

minime88 · 15/08/2016 21:45

Thanks for all the replies....I haven't told any friends/family yet because it hasn't really sunk in and despite good intentions all the questions they would ask me would be too much at the moment.

Really strange at home at the moment. We have just been living in seperate rooms. I work Monday and Tuesday evenings so not seen him properly today, I got home half an hour ago and went straight up to bed. It's horrible situation because he is depressed about it all and ashamed about his actions but because the trust has been shattered I don't even know if I believe that he's genuinely upset about it.

He went to the doctors today, I know he's telling the truth about that because he has a prescription for sleeping pills. He went because apparently he was so distraught with his behaviour that he wanted to speak to his doctor about his drinking. They think he's depressed and have given him something to help him sleep and referred him for counselling.

It's difficult, I'm abit younger than him, I'm 28 and don't want to spend my life with someone who does this on and off and blames it on alcohol. My mum has had similar problems with men all her life including my Dad and I always told myself I'd never end up in her situation and if anyone treated me badly id be out the door....and here I am finding it hard to leave!

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Coyk · 17/02/2019 01:14

Hi, I really need some help. My wife and I have been married for 15 years. She’s 7 years younger than me. Two weeks ago she went on a hen do with some new friends of ours and ended up kissing another man. I found out as she was being odd and over loving then I saw a message from the guy on Facebook and told her I’d messaged him to call her bluff. She owned up and said it was nothing more than a passionate drunk kiss and I messaged him after this which he confirmed. As did another person that was on the hen do. I’m devastated as we have three kids and whilst I know she’s a flirt and very good looking I never thought she’d go physical and I just can’t get it out of my mind. It’s ripping me apart. We are not arguing and I’ve tried to understand it but just don’t know if I can carry on with here even though she’s my absolute world. She’s sorry but I just can’t cope with this. Any advice or thought people have as to if I’m over reacting or anything I’m all ears. She’s assured me there are no fundamental issues and it was just a very drunk kiss but what am I to think? I’m so scarred.

bagpiss · 17/02/2019 07:21

@Coyk Hi this is a zombie thread from 2016, you really need to start a fresh one to get the help and advice you need.

Separated07 · 30/08/2019 20:39

Hi all
Please bear with me, this is quite an essay.
I met my girlfriend while married (not proud) and we both separated from partners to be together. I have two children from the marriage. We followed each other round hotels with my work and the first year or two was great, proper steamy romance the turned into love. we moved in together and although good, cracks appeared and I was kicked out for six weeks, while I got my own bank and put in to the house. She then became close mates with our neighbour about six years older with four kids of his own, he was living with his girlfriend and still is, although fast forward and they’ve moved about ten miles from us now. She fell pregnant and our baby was born, only then were the other kids allowed near. My partner never wanted kids full stop so this was huge for her. Nothing has been done right and I’ve taken the brunt, add to that she has huge past issues (lost her brother in Afghan, abuse as a child) and you can see she’s pretty messed up anyway without my input! We’ve given it one last shot for years but there hasn't been intimacy in the relationship for three years since our girl, and probably been really close four times in the last year. Just when I get close, something pushes her back and I’m back to square one frustrated. We knew we were close to the end with arguments along these lines, and I’d been working away every week when suddenly a text from the next door neighbour arrived at 11pm one night, just friends she said. Work carried on and a few weeks later I came home to a fine letter showing her car in a pub car park for four hours while I was away and our girl was at nannies. I quizzed her and she said she met the old neighbour (she didn’t have to say him, it could have been anyone). She swore on lives it was just mates and I got over that, but then intrigue got the better of me a week later and I checked her phone (again, not proud) where i saw deleted screen shots of messages between the two where HE declared how he felt and there was a message from him saying he “couldn’t help it, devil on his shoulder” and that hed found her “sexy and fit for years” there was a deleted selfie from him (just smiling) and my mrs has tried to send a legitimate selfie back to him (about 15 deleted selfies, she says not used) but obviously didn’t feel confident to send one. I approached the subject and she told me they met two weeks later (little girl at nannies again) but this time they mistakenly kissed at the goodbye stage (lips sealed, longer than a peck) she said she didn’t say anything as she was trying to forget (again, she didn’t need to own up to the kiss, I didn’t have a clue) but this one has really hurt. She’s just started a course of anti depressants and I’m talking to a counsellor about my insecurities and trust, plus relationship OCD. I love this woman so much and want it all to be mates who made an error. After a week of her meds she called a separation while we both sort our heads, and then “if we’re meant to be it’ll happen” kind of thing. So now I’m in the process of moving out, her meds have kicked in on the second week and she’s back to her old self, albeit in fits and spurts. She’s showed signs of amazing happiness at how I’ve learned from previous mistakes and the house is working again, we’ve been amazing and chatted and giggled etc, regularly cuddling and pecks on the lips despite us separating. It’s worth noting I contacted the blokes partner to ask him to call me and she didn’t reply, despite being a friendly girl. He kicked off at my partner saying he’d already told her and this had caused more issues and that I shouldn’t have contacted her (if he hadn’t told her, she would have replied surely, so could be the case he has?) my partner says she will still message him and won’t be dictated to by anyone who she meets, she only has a couple of friends anyway.
I guess I’m asking, do I trust my partner is going to get the help she needs and sit tight in my new place trusting it was a genuine error mainly fuelled by his feelings towards her, how I’ve made her feel for years, and two vulnerable people have made an error, and maybe she’s even enjoyed the attention, also seeing the signs that show she could want me back, or do I move out next week and let whatever happens happen with them two? I’m in the mindset that I’ve been shunned so that she can explore what was beginning with him but with no challenge, but then I think I’ve seen enough to show she is coming back to me, wants to forget the kiss and stay friends with him, but has to park me as she cannot concentrate on her mental health and a relationship with me around doing the same? It’s worth noting she is very remorseful for what she did in terms of no intimacy shown for years (her mindset is she has nothing to give to anyone, body hangups post pregnancy and obviously depression, doesn’t even tell me exciting day stuff, and now letting me down with the old neighbour.
Help, I’m losing the woman I love and no matter what I say or do, I’m making it worse with these unwanted thoughts of what happened that night and could still be?
The more I pick up on her good days and random ‘false hopes’ as progress for the future, the more she slams me down with the “see what happens” line.
Just want her back and to be able to trust nothing is going on. I never had this issue for the five years before today, but now I cringe when she says she’s going for a drive or going out with her only other mate (female) I do trust her but hate the thought of being played while trying to change myself, and the moment I’m gone she’s gonna meet him again.
Any help appreciated
😢

Mintlegs · 30/08/2019 23:41

Work on your self esteem and confidence

PeterthePainter · 31/08/2019 00:41

Depends on the circcumstances. If it was a late night drunken snog at a party when far too much booze had been consumed they yes I could (I have, in fact). Stone cold sober on a warm sunny afternoon with noby else in the house - probably not.

sugar88 · 31/08/2019 01:58

I couldn't do it personally.

It's the trust. If I don't trust him anymore then there's no point carrying on.

I also would at the very least want respect in a relationship. Going out, getting smashed and snogging someone is not respecting your partner however meaningless it the kisd is.

Saying that, I know couples who have had this happen between them and they got through it. Feel for you OP, hope you figure it all.

sugar88 · 31/08/2019 01:59

That was supposed to say *hope you figure it all out.

AngusThermopyle · 31/08/2019 08:06

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ValancyRedfern · 31/08/2019 10:38

Plenty of relationships survive a full on affair so in that sense a kiss is nothing. I've been drunk and kissed men and not even remembered until friends told me... The question is really is it a deal breaker for you.

mrsheltere · 02/02/2023 11:24

My marriage is as strong now, or stronger, since my wife kissed another guy. But here's the big caveat...

During a drunken visit to a nightclub with my wife and my best friend (a guy), my wife and friend asked if they could kiss (they'd been at the bar without me for at least ten minutes beforehand and clearly had an exchange of thoughts or something for them both to ask).

Being drunk and somewhat excited (don't judge me) by this and not considering the consequences, I said go on then.

I watched them peck each other on the lips. I was surprised they'd gone to the trouble of asking just for that. I reacted by saying, is that all? I followed up with, Have a proper snog (ie French kiss)!! I then watched them snog for 5+ seconds and get very uncomfortable. So I told them to stop. OK. OK. Enough, I said. It took them another 5 seconds to stop. And then I saw and heard how aroused they both are. My wife never knows when to not say anything.

I was upset and jealous for an hour or so but we stayed in the club and tried to put it behind us, and my mate disappeared for a while. My wife tried to say sorry and make amends (by trying to befriend girls and suggest they kiss me, but to no avail). She shouldn't have tried that, but she was trying anything to even the score I suppose.

By the time it got to 6am at the club, I'd got over it. But my wife invited him home with us. But I said no, and knew this would hang over us for a while.

I have quizzed them (mostly my wife) on this several times but they deny anything happened before the kiss but my wife admitted she was attracted to him and was hoping for sex that morning. But after sobering up, she's glad nothing happened.

I struggle with this memory but have forgiven them. Afterall, I gave them permission!

FlibbertyGibbitt · 02/02/2023 11:46

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