I'm starting to hate men

[Mamaka]

I've noticed recently that I've become more and more anti men - I think since having my first child. So many factors that I could mention and probably many deep rooted issues contributing to this but the long and short of it is why do women have to suffer and sacrifice at every turn?!

I don't really want to feel like this. I have a son who I want to bring up/am bringing up to be a feminist but I'm worried about how my hateful feelings towards men are going to rub off on my dc.

I suppose I am asking if there is a way I can combat these feelings and start to feel more positively towards them.

I don't mind if you ignore me. It doesn't bother me. Nor does it change the facts. Nothing you can say changes the facts.

I'm very cheerfully convinced that it's obvious to most people that the OP was not on at all. I think it's a real jaw dropper. No way round it

VoyageOfDad Hm, well I haven't seen her other threads and it's really sad if that's how she really feels. And worrying. And a pretty unpleasant life if you go through it actively hating an entire gender!

I would reiterate that I don't hate men. Not at all. I don't like some of the things that some men do, but I don't like some of the things that some women do either. I don't like misogyny and it's wider implications. But women are often equally guilty of that.

I challenge as many women and girls at work about misogynistic language etc as I do men and boys, largely because I don't want anyone to be restricted or governed by perceived gender norms and expectations.

dad well as 2 out of the three have been derailed by males making no discernible releant point I'm not surprised she's frustrated.
Rather than pearl clutching "Omg she's so awful, how can she say that??!!" Maybe we could address her questions about how to move on from it?

Methinks he/she doth protest too much...that's you Dilberry...

I think the grin after the comment would help clarify that Mamaka was being tongue in cheek, Soapbox.

But no. A man with hurt feelings would like to mislead you.

Oh, she was joking, was she?

It's ok, everyone. Apparently, it's a joke.

Yep take it totally out of context dad.
If a woman has consistently been stung by bees, it's reasonable to be wary of bees right?
But if someone (like me) has been consistently treated badly by men, it's not reasonable to be wary of men. Right, gotcha.

It's totally unreasonable to compare knowing men to being stung by bees.

Nice bit of victim blaming there Voyage.

You're delightful.

The best thing about this thread is how unhelpful you are dilberry, what makes you think women dont know not all men are like that? This discussion isn't about men who aren't a problem it's about men who are.

Im sorry but I still think you're a man dilberry.

'Im sorry but I still think you're a man dilberry.'

I could not say anything to prove my point better if I tried.

And not that it should make any difference to whether my argument is logically sound, but I am not a man.

Did I say being male was a problem?

What point have you proven? You haven't won anyone over to the Men's rights side on this thread aside from another man.

You're missing the point entirely.

It's fine I used to be commited to the preservation of my ego but I grew up. Over and out.

'Hating women is entirely rational in a matriarchy.'

' I have very little time for women; generally finding them tedious, entitled, predictable and boorish '

'A little girl should grow up with a father who is optimistic enough to believe that she can be a decent human being, but if his father thinks that women in general are okay, then he isn't able to see through the matriarchal brainwashing, and will likely not be able to discourage female entitlement and other undesirable traits in his daughter'

'I was cuddling and playing with my daughters recently and was thinking how amazing they are and found myself thinking sadly how one day they would turn into women'

'I've never had a good experience with women.'

'I don't hate all women - too exhausting'

'I don't like women much either'

'I don't like my friends' wives/ partners (in general). I find them boring and annoying.'

' I'm well aware intellectually that not all women are entitled, misandric arseholes, but I have only a few truly decent women I can bring to mind as positive examples against the sheer mass of women I have had contact with throughout my life.'

Just some of the quotes from this thread with the sexes changed. Would you think these were reasonable, non-mysogynistic comments if you came upon them on a mens' rights board?

Oh this is becoming childish.....

Is it becoming childish? Or simply difficult to defend?