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That Sunday Feeling!

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Hushabyemountain98 · 24/05/2016 08:13

Welcome to to my new thread. I hope that all my MN friends from Onwards and Upwards will join me and maybe a few new ones!xx

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PiscoSour66 · 07/06/2016 08:11

Good morning Tartan Smile
I think you're right you know. It's a modern disease with mobiles and Facebook it's bacteria fuelled by Viagra. Why can't they just shuffle off to their sheds like in the old days and leave everyone in peace? Mid life crisis my arse!
As you were.......Grin

Hushabyemountain98 · 07/06/2016 08:35

Good morning Kirk,
I am glad that you have calmed down.
I know that we would like to blame the ow for everything but they are grown men and they have choices!
I am trying to tell you and believe myself that we will be better off without them in the end. As I have to believe in Karma and what goes around comes around.
Have a good day my friend xxx

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Hushabyemountain98 · 07/06/2016 08:41

Well said Pisco.
I hope you are okay this morning.
I was awake at 4.40 but went back to sleep until 8am!
I better go and have a shower and get the dogs out.
Have a good day and your cat nap this afternoon!
xx

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Hushabyemountain98 · 07/06/2016 08:44

Good morning it is good to have you back on my thread.
I often think of you and wonder how you are doing.
I have to get moving as I have a delivery today so I better have a shower and take the dogs out.
I will be back later to answer your post fully.
Have a good day xx

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ThankGodItsThursday · 07/06/2016 17:04

Afternoon all.
Another day at work and another magnum eaten. At this rate I'll soon have put all the weight I've lost back on!
I feel surprisingly ok but I'm p*ed off with him. Solicitor sent him agreement to sign on 26th May which meant he would have received it on Friday 27th/Saturday 28th. He didn't post it back unti Friday 3rd June and when I emailed solicitor today to see if he'd received it, solicitor emailed me back to say he'd got to send it back to him because he hadn't had his signature witnessed. The letter accompanying the agreement clearly said what he had to do.
Finding the books that Kirk recommended useful although I'm rubbish at the visualisation exercises.
I've done a lot of soul searching and think that for years I've been trying to make him happy to the exclusion of everything/everyone else. I've mentioned before that I've not maintained my friendships and I hadn't seen my brother for 18 months the other week. It's like I had forgotten who I am.
It's a pity we are probably all over the country - we could have our own little club meetup.

Hushabyemountain98 · 07/06/2016 19:08

Hi Tartan.
It is good to see you on my thread again.
I lurk on your thread too and like you I was feeling too low to post.
I also see that you have great support on there with people like WWK to name one who are a great help.
I am glad that your doctor has given you ADs and that you are finding they are helping you. My doctor is not keen to give me them, mainly because of my other medication. One good thing is that I have a counsellor and she is really helping me.

You are right you do not realise how many people this horrible thing has happened to! Do you think that social media and mobile phones have anything to do with it or is it just low moral values!
Don't beat yourself up! None of us are perfect but did we deserve this? No we didn't. I can put my hand on my heart and honestly say that I did everything I could for my husband and where did that get me! I expect you did the same!
My Counsellor says that I am being far too hard on myself and it sounds as though you are being the same.
I didn't like having the valuations done and I was here on my own. It was good that your DS sorted the garden. I bet you felt really moved for a few minutes! Still at least he did it eventhough it came at a price! Plus it was a success and even the dog had a good time! Life does go on!

I have had a kind of up day today. I am sure you know what I mean? I hope your day has been good too. Everyone assures me that I will get through this. I am sure it will be the same for you and our other MN friends. We cannot let this horrible experience defeat us.
Onwards and Upwards! Xx

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Hushabyemountain98 · 07/06/2016 19:29

Hi ThankGod.
I am glad that you got to gave another magnum this afternoon.
Don't worry about putting weight on!
I think I will have to have a whole new wardrobe as I cannot keep any of my trousers up! Not a good look for a lady in her late fifties!
Sorry that your dh messed you about with the forms he had to sign, get witnessed and return! I have had some of that too!
What is up with these men? They want this but they still make it as difficult as possible!
I am sorry that you have sacrificed your own life to do everything you could for your dh. Maybe now you will be able to put your life back on track and do things for yourself. Easier said than done I know!
It would be good if we could all meet up but I think we are spread far and wide!
Have a nice evening xx

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tartanbuggy · 08/06/2016 07:31

Hi Hush

I think you're right about social media and mobiles. Makes things a lot easier for folk to get together in secret!

I know what you mean about up and down days. I find there's no rhyme nor reason to them; it just depends on how things go when I wake up. I still wake up with that strange "bump" as it all comes flooding back. Luckily I am having no problem sleeping and this is largely down to not being disturbed by STBXH's dire and dreadful snoring, lip flapping and other strange nocturnal noises. I wonder if OW is now subjected to this? I do hope so Grin

Hope you have a better day - take care of yourself.

Hushabyemountain98 · 08/06/2016 08:06

Hi Tartan.

Yes I think you are right it does make it a lot easier for folk to get together in secret!

I know what you mean about waking up with that strange 'bump' and everything comes flooding back. Maybe one day this will subside!
At leas you are sleeping well as you are not disturbed by your STBXH's snoring etc. Let's hope he is keeping the OW awake now!

Well I better get on and gave a shower and walk the dogs. I have visitors this morning and I need to make a cake to have with our coffee.

Take care of yourself and I hope you have a good day. The sun is shining here hopefully it is where you are?
xx

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Hushabyemountain98 · 08/06/2016 21:13

Hello Ladies.
I hope you have all had a good day.
The weather here has been glorious. I hope it has been the same where you are?
I still have my lounge doors open and the dogs are outside.
I had my sister and brother in law around for coffee and cake this morning.
Then I went to pick up some of my youngest sons belongings from his student house as he has to move out this month.
I felt knackered after I lifted the 10 boxes and all the other stuff from the car and took it all upstairs helped (not) by my young dog!
Still it kept me from thinking too much.
Now I am siiting watching the Big C and me with a large glass of Prosecco.
I hope I sleep tonight!
I hope you are all having a nice evening?xx

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ThankGodItsThursday · 09/06/2016 16:34

Afternoon everyone.
After a few days of feeling ok I woke up this morning feeling all sick and panicky and I've not been able to shake the feeling all day (got the word feeling into that sentence three times!!!)
I still miss him (obviously) but have been able to go an hour or so at work without thinking about him.
Is this normal? Do we all go days where everything is okish and then - wham a bad day?
Had no more viewings booked for the house which I'm a bit bothered by. I really want to sell and be able to buy somewhere that's just mine and I want to move if possible before my daughter goes off to university.
Just seem to keep hitting obstacles.
Hope everyone else is doing ok and enjoying the few days of nice weather we've had.

Kirk123 · 09/06/2016 23:46

Good evening, thank god of course your feelings are normal because you feel them , slow down thinking about the house if it's meant to sell it will , I did the same and my house didn't sell! now I am glad because it gave me time to heal and get mentally stronger , one day at a time and just take a deep breathe every morning and say " today I am good enough " night all ❤️❤️❤️❤️

Hushabyemountain98 · 09/06/2016 23:51

Hello ThankGod.
I know exactly how you feel and I know that other ladies on here do too.
I have a few good days and then something happens and I feel that I am back in my pit of despair.
I am hoping that the settled times will increase and that the days of despair will decrease. I think it will just take time!
I hope you will have some more viewings. I am sure someone will come along soon. It only takes one couple to like it and be in a position to put in an offer! Fingers crossed for you!
I have been to the cinema tonight with a friend to see Me Before You. Which was good but sad!
I hope you have a good nights sleep.
Take care xx

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Hushabyemountain98 · 09/06/2016 23:56

Good evening Kirk,
Well said!
I think we all need time to heal.
I felt a little better today.
I even danced around my lounge this morning!
Perhaps I have just totally lost it!
Good night xx😛👯

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PiscoSour66 · 10/06/2016 00:43

Hello ThankGod. How are you? Sorry it's taken so long for anyone to answer you. Yes, these up and down feelings are very normal. It really is two steps forwards, one and a half backwards. And it's like this for a long time. The lows do become less frequent, their duration shorter and less intense. But it is a real rollercoaster of a ride of emotions. It's devastating.
Did you have a Magnum today? You need to have your treats! Xxx

PiscoSour66 · 10/06/2016 00:48

Sorry everyone, I started writing the last message over an hour ago, fell asleep and then posted without seeing that you had answered ThankGod. Doh!
Good night everyone. Onwards and upwards xxx

Tattieboggle · 10/06/2016 05:58

Good Morning Everyone.

Husha, Im loving you having a dance around the living room - its something I do as well. I'd actually love to be a lot better at dancing than I am and if I lived somewhere lessons were easily available I'd be there everyday. Its one of the things Im looking forward to when I go on the cruise with my pal in September. She loves dancing and goes away on the 60's/70's/80's dancing weekend things at the likes of Butlins and I know for sure we'll be in the Disco every night on board. I like those dance routines like the Electric Slide so when Im back from the UK in a couple of weeks Im going to spend the summer learning via Youtube videos because Im not going outdoors unless its in the evening. Its roasting here, absolutely roasting, and when I collected the wee one from school yesterday it was 53 degrees at 2pm, thats 127 degrees in pound shillings and pence. It was awful.

My eldest son who wanted to pick a fight with me told me the other day that he's met the new woman in my husbands life. He's met her twice for brief periods. He was asked by his father as the eldest son to validate the two little ones so he did. Anyway my counselling seems to be working because I was able to sit and listen to him and not react. I just said I can understand why you did it ( I do understand why he did it) but I dont understand why you had to tell me ( I do, he was looking for a fight) but more to the point son I always knew it would be you who did. He didn't like it and said - oh don't think Im all friendly with her. So I told him - its none of my business if you are because again, I always knew it would be you, you are thinking long term and you will always look after yourself. I was able to say it without any malice and not only did he not get the fight he was looking for, Im his go to person when he wants a quarrel, I totally un-nerved him and he was left thinking - mhmm this hasn't gone the way I wanted it to. He even said - your different Grin So I told him yeah its all of your inheritance that Im spending on very expensive counselling. Grin

My daughters have met her as well but they went with a completely different agenda to my son and their thoughts were made very clear. He's a very difficult person and I worry because of his job and on days when I want to scud him in the lug I tell myself if anything happened to him at work and there was bad feeling between you you'd never be able to live with it, and if anything happened to him at work then he should be able to be terrified and perhaps want his mum and know that you loved him a lot. It really is my bottom line with regards to him but I know it must sound half daft.

Anyway yesterday was hard because my bravado had kind of left me and on top of my DS having an awful day I was also left pondering me and my eldest boy and Im even more determined now to try and improve things between us, and get to the bottom of him/us. Not because he met the other woman - simply because he was willing to use the information to try and upset me.

My DS2 and his wife called in to see me before they went to the airport to drop my DIL and the wee one off to go on holiday. She saw I was a bit down and to be frank they're all sick of my eldest son (no one's really bothering with him he's such difficult a character and the other kids have had enough, they can't help him anymore) and we discussed what he did. I said to her I feel as if my husband got away with everything and she said to me no, he hasn't, because I made it very clear to him last week how we all felt.

So seemingly my husband visited them after he'd been to see the new baby and said its obvious you're all afraid of Tattie but if your are flying from Dubai come and stay at home. No one need worry about her finding out because it can be a secret, we'll just keep it to ourselves. So my DIL said to him, if you will give me a few minutes of your time I will explain the situation to you. She said no one is afraid of Tattie, but we do love and respect her very much so Im sorry but I can never meet your new family because the two just do not go hand in hand. She then went on to say but this isn't even about Tattie, its about your son, my husband, you have to understand that you were away a lot when they were younger and the business took up your life when they were older and you would tell them that when you'd made money you'd slow down and spend time with the family - that family life would be great. So they all looked forward to that and lived for the day they would have their dad around and their children would have their grandfather but what have they got? They've got nothing because you are away living your life with another family? Thats the reason why you children are not on board with you. She was very good and kept it very polite and there was no mention of the standard of person he's now with and her behaviour over the years which was tacky in the extreme.

She said that my husband sat there and was trying to talk over her and make jokes and say things like - oh its all water under the bridge, and what happened happened, and life's too short etc etc etc. She said he was like a teenager with hardly any grasp on reality at all and she said its obvious he either can't or wont think of the reality that is our family life. She's also of the opinion that its one of the reasons he surrounds himself with drunken court jesters because they're now the only ones in his life who'll accept his version of reality for the price of their drinks and electricity bills.

My son was at home, he'd been on a nightshift and got up when he heard his father in the house, and the first thing my husband did was say to him - come and stay at home if you are dropping them in Dubai. And that was when my son said - Dad as long as you're living the life you're living I will never set foot anywhere you call home so please stop asking because its not going to happen.

Im not gloating about that. In fact I find it very sad because first and foremost its about the pain my children are in and it shows that no matter how old our children are - there's still parts of them that are our wee boys and girls. And you may find this bit daft but I actually feel quite sorry for my husband.

Oh and on the same day I felt grim I was talking to someone I hadn't seen for a long time and they told me about one of my husbands very poor distant relatives who took the chance of an all expenses paid holiday from Kenya to Dubai and 5 days into her stay with my husband and his family she asked if he would book her on a flight the next day as she couldn't stand the fighting and shouting going on in the house. And thats another indication of how far removed he is from people who make better choices in life - our immediate extended family will have nothing to do with his situation, its in fact over a year since he saw his sisters, and all he has now are very far removed, previously hardly ever seen poor relatives,who can't believe that Sir Galahad has rode into their life wielding a cheque book.

Then on the same day there was one of his old friends who I met at the shops and he told me - no one can believe what he is with now, a young girl who set off from the Phillipines to earn 200 pounds a month and her only ambition lay in getting herself a wealthy foreigner. First she was with her European Boss and then your stupid DH came along.

So as you can imagine that was quite a shock because whilst we always knew what she is (and what he is) its come as a bit of a shock to realise she's even worse than we first thought. But at the same time we've had a good laugh about it and not just because when my husband found out he got her to leave work and then set her up in an apartment where she sat and waited for him to arrive in Dubai every week. It must have been terrible for him not being able to trust his mistress to go to work everyday and work alongside the boss she'd being having an affair with before she met my husband eh Grin And that latter bit, the bit about him getting her to leave work is the sociopath in him - he was showing the boss who was Boss. He was showing another successful man - 'Im de man'!

And then of course once she was in the flat - came the pregnancy. Well not that we know that for sure given how often he changes his mind about what came first - the pregnancy or the wedding. It really all does depend on the version of events he's telling to people that day.

So Im sure you can understand why my kids are so upset when they say - why did he have to sink so low mum, why couldn't he have chosen someone decent so that when they dust settled we could have at least all made a go of it and still and our dad?

What a bloody mess.

Sorry for typos, am typing with one eye over my shoulder in case grizzly bear adams comes into the room with a sore head Wink

Tattieboggle · 10/06/2016 05:58

What a bloody essay Grin

But I do hope it helps some of you just even a wee bit. xxxxxx

Tattieboggle · 10/06/2016 06:12

Oh and whats bothered me the most? Well that would be the fact he was encouraging our children to tell lies and skulk around like thief's in the night.
He did it for years when they were younger, they'd find out things about him and he'd say to them things like - I wont pay your school fees next year if you tell, I'll make you go to government school instead (not like UK government schools). He used and abused them for years. And yes, for a long time I believed my sons didnt respect me because if your dad is teaching you to disrespect your mum its not rocket science that he will succeed to a certain extent. And I think that a big part of the problem with me and my eldest.

My poor children, one of them even came to me one day and said sorry, and asked me to forgive him but I just said to him - there is nothing to forgive. What a burden he put on my kids shoulders even as teenagers but the man is completely off his head because he forgot they grew up and they grew up well despite him and he just can't get it in his head that they have minds of their own now.

Again what a bloody mess but I actually welcome things like what happened the other day even though they hurt because if you sit up and take notice of it you can use it constructively to go on to better things.

xxx

ThankGodItsThursday · 10/06/2016 08:00

Morning all.
I'm on a course today which I'm not looking forward to. It's a whole day and I'm sure it could be done in a morning. Oh well.
I feel so envious when I hear you talk of friends. I am positive that if I had one or two close friends to have a coffee with and a chat I would find dealing with this so much easier. I am not a horrible friend I assure you. Just guilty of making him my whole world and not making the effort to maintain friendships. Now all I have is the dog and my daughter. How do you make new friends at this stage in life?
I just feel so alone. I look around and everyone seems to be in a couple.
I tried a meetup group but maybe it was too soon after he left. I felt alone in a crowd. Plus I think whilst those groups are ok for getting out of the house there are so many people who go to one event but not the next it isn't the way to make close friends more friendly acquaintances.
At least I haven't cried in front of my daughter for a while now and I am definitely having a few okish days in a row before the doldrums hit again. I think it's knowing the weekend looms ahead.
Have a good day.

Tattieboggle · 10/06/2016 08:39

Just guilty of making him my whole world and not making the effort to maintain friendships. Now all I have is the dog and my daughter. How do you make new friends at this stage in life

I was guilty of that as well coupled with the fact I was housebound with my son so getting out and socialising with friends was difficult. But I was lucky that the friends I had stayed as friends even though they really were at the bottom of my list of priorities - but I dont mean that in an unkind way.

Only one now lives near me now and she has just remarried so we dont see each other often. I think the last time was about 7 months ago but we talk on the phone often. Im glad she's all loved up and I know that in time we'll see more of each other. The rest returned to their home countries years ago but despite being miles apart we've always stayed in touch and I'd see them every few years when in the UK. So whilst I have a handful of very good old friends - Ive no new friends. I have a few people who are well on their way to becoming lifelong friends but for now they are good pals. I don't know about others but Im very careful about who and what I say is a friend.

I met the new pals by getting out there and doing things even though it was very hard for me because Im not a great socialiser. So for e.g. I started going to the gym for personal training and one day in the changing room one woman said to her friend lets have a coffee and she then turned and said to me - would you like to join us? I was kind of taken aback because I'd heard of things like that happening to people but I didn't know if it really did happen - but it obviously does so I went. But its also important to remember you just can't go out and make a friend, you have to start off slowly be meeting people and letting connections develop slowly into what we call friends, friends in the real sense. And if that pal does not become a friend and stays as a pal - thats also great because its contact with someone. So I think for now I would say to you just try and find something to do that will bring you into contact with people for starters.

I even went holidays alone, Ive been all over the place, and yes it was hard, but I also had a great time once there and my kids think Im fab because 'it must have been really hard for mama to do that but she got up and did it' Im told my DS2 always tells people - my mum took all of us by surprise and got up and went on to the other side of the world alone on her adventures - she really is something else and her and my dad separating was the best thing thats happened to her. He doesn't know I'd nearly cry on the plane I felt to lonely and ridiculous but it was something I had to do and its been the making of me. I grew as a person and I saw very clearly that life was worth living.

On one holiday I met a lovely Swiss lady and her 16 year old son and we really hit it off. Since the holiday we've met up here at home when they were in port on a cruise and later this year Im meeting them in Dubai for a week when they're there on holiday. Im also going to see them in Switzerland next year before going to Italy by train on another adventure. Its something Im looking forward to and I find thats one of the things I really like about my life now - I get great pleasure in having things to look forward to months from now so it helps me not to be so scared at times.

If you would be up for a wee holiday and you dont want to travel alone would you like some links for travel companies that do group tours for solo travellers? Solo travellers as in people who want to go on holiday and would prefer not to travel alone. Im already looking at a few for next year just because its something different to do and i think it would be fun.

We could maybe come up with other ideas if you tell us what you like doing or would like to start doing.

xx

Hushabyemountain98 · 10/06/2016 09:20

Good morning Tattie.
I hope you have a great time when you go on your cruise with your pal. Where are you going on the cruise?
Are you coming back to the UK for anything special?
I love dancing too. When I was young I did ballroom dancing.
I have often thought that I would like to learn to tango but you really need a man for that! Particularly the Argentinian Tango!
I could not stand those temperatures. I have lived where it was really hot but not that bad.
Why does your son feel the need to pick a fight with you? Is it just you or is he generally argumentative?
I am glad that your counselling is working. I think you were so good not to react!
He must have been really shocked by your reaction! Not what he was expecting at all! Well done!
It must of hurt inside though?
I am sure that your son is in no doubt that you love him.
I wonder if he ever heard the song You always hurt the one you love?

I am sorry that your DS had an awful day yesterday. I hope he will have a better one today.

I am glad that your daughter in law put your ex husband straight. It sounds asthough she did it in a tactful way. Maybe it is easier for her as she us an in law. She must think a lot of you.
I am glad that your DS2 told his Father how he felt. I really think that these men are dilutional at times!

Reading all this about this OW or girl all I am thinking is how heartbreaking this all must have been for you. Also for your family. It obviously still all plays on your mind. I have different feelings as my DH has gone for a woman who is a high flyer not the woman with a brain full of 'mush'.
I still do not get how they can treat us like this?
I hurt so much as I have been here several times before.
I feel for my sons too.
I wondered whether I could have done more to keep him!
Oh here come the tears again!

What a horrid man to threaten your children with the government school! Don't they call that blackmail?
I am glad they have all grown up so well despite this.
They had you to rely on and love.

It is good that you are able to have a laugh about his situation too. I wonder whether he would like to turn the clock back? I am sure he would!

Well I better go and have a shower and get my day started!

Have a good day.

xx

Good morning Tattie.
I hope you have a great time when you go on your cruise with your pal. Where are you going on the cruise?
Are you coming back to the UK for anything special?
I love dancing too. When I was young I did ballroom dancing.
I have often thought that I would like to learn to tango but you really need a man for that! Particularly the Argentinian Tango!
I could not stand those temperatures. I have lived where it was really hot but not that bad.
Why does your son feel the need to pick a fight with you? Is it just you or is he generally argumentative?
I am glad that your counselling is working. I think you were so good not to react!
He must have been really shocked by your reaction! Not what he was expecting at all! Well done!
It must of hurt inside though?
I am sure that your son is in no doubt that you love him.
I wonder if he ever heard the song You always hurt the one you love?

I am sorry that your DS had an awful day yesterday. I hope he will have a better one today.

I am glad that your daughter in law put your ex husband straight. It sounds asthough she did it in a tactful way. Maybe it is easier for her as she us an in law. She must think a lot of you.
I am glad that your DS2 told his Father how he felt. I really think that these men are dilutional at times!

Reading all this about this OW or girl all I am thinking is how heartbreaking this all must have been for you. Also for your family. It obviously still all plays on your mind. I have different feelings as my DH has gone for a woman who is a high flyer not the woman with a brain full of 'mush'.
I still do not get how they can treat us like this?
I hurt so much as I have been here several times before.
I feel for my sons too.
I wondered whether I could have done more to keep him!
Oh here come the tears again!

What a horrid man to threaten your children with the government school! Don't they call that blackmail?
I am glad they have all grown up so well despite this.
They had you to rely on and love.

It is good that you are able to have a laugh about his situation too. I wonder whether he would like to turn the clock back? I am sure he would!

Well I better go and have a shower and get my day started!

Have a good day.

xx

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Hushabyemountain98 · 10/06/2016 09:23

Sorry Tattie.
I had to copy and paste the message as it took so long to write and I had to log in again. For sone reason I pasted it twice! Not very bright!

I really must get on I will be back later xx

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Kirk123 · 10/06/2016 11:38

Good morning all , thanks for your post tattie , mine also left me for a woman who has mush for brains and not even a good mum , always leaving her kids with other in school time to go with ex ! He once told her parent ening skills were awful and they had no routine ! Prick ! I really appreciate these lengthy threads as it helps me focus and I feel comforted by you all and hush for always replying to us all !!!
I HAVE HAD A GREAT IDEA LETS ALL GO AND MEET TATTIE In DuBAI ( when it's cooler there ) and we can all together together lol

Hushabyemountain98 · 10/06/2016 12:42

Good afternoon ThankGod.
I hope the course is going okay?
Can you not try and rekindle your friendships. You may find that your friends would be glad to see you or hear from you. True friend is always a friend!
My sister thinks it maybe a good idea for me to join the WI. I am not sure but I may pluck up the courage and give it a try!
Which area do you live in? Just wondering as there may be a Mumsnetter near you!
It is good to talk to a friend. I think it will help when you get to see a counsellor face to face. I can tell her everything and I cry too!
It really helps to unload and she helps with all the feelings.

My friends and the counsellor seem to think I am doing better. I suppose I am but I still have ups and downs as you do. When the black cloud hovers overhead. Normally when I have had contact from him or his solicitor!

I hope the day will not drag too much for you. Can you get out for a magnum?

Well I better go and do some housework. Still as one of the wise ladies says 'There are no housework police'. My DH would have a fit!
Bye for now xx☀️👯

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