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That Sunday Feeling!

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Hushabyemountain98 · 24/05/2016 08:13

Welcome to to my new thread. I hope that all my MN friends from Onwards and Upwards will join me and maybe a few new ones!xx

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PiscoSour66 · 01/09/2016 08:15

Well, but brief!
Good morning everyone. It's lovely here today. X

tartanbuggy · 01/09/2016 08:43

Hello Hush. Hello everybody!

I've been away for a few days visiting some friends from college - 32 years ago! - and it was lovely to see them. I went to the first friend for a day and then we drove up to see the second friend who lives in the back of beyond, a couple of miles from where I lived as a young child and very close to the campsite where my family camped every year. Beautiful place and it brought back so many memories. It was wonderful to see my friends and catch up. We talked and talked and talked - mostly me Blush - and put away quite a bit of wine.

On the downside, I found it very difficult coming back home and leaving the little bubble of nostalgia and happy memories. I'm afraid I have hardly stopped crying ever since. I think the contrast of happy carefree past with horrible sad present and scary uncertain future is just too much. I'm so glad I went and saw my friends because I had such a lovely time, but am finding it very difficult coming back to "reality".

Didn't help to come back to a car that won't start. I think it's the battery that has died, but I haven't a clue what to do. My neighbour jump started me and the car ran fine, but the next morning - dead as a dodo. The car is being collected next Tuesday by the garage, so it's back to that strange concept of walking and carrying bags. Bit like my childhood Grin

DS was on his own whilst I was away; DD2 was at Reading Festival and DD1 was at her boyfriend's. I suspected that DS might have a few friends round, so I told him it was OK, but that the only thing I didn't want was for the neighbours to be upset or any illegal substances to be used. Well, on the Friday night I had a text from DD2 at Reading screeching that she had seen on Snapchat that our house was full of people including some girls from school who she didn't like. Turned out, he'd had more than a few friends round. There was no damage done and he'd made a good attempt at clearing up. Dog was fine. However, I think some of his guests had got quite rowdy and silly and the neighbours mentioned it to me. However, they were the ones who jump started me, so I'm guessing they're not too upset at me. DS is still "crawling". Little git!

Anyway, enough about me. Sorry to hear that quite a few of you are feeling a bit low at the moment. Hush, I know exactly how you feel about the solicitors and everything. It's just bringing it home and making it even more real. I've got an appointment with my solicitor today and a third mediation session tomorrow. It's absolutely horrible, isn't it? All this negotiating and bartering of our lives; it's like having to justify our existence over all those years. I definitely feel that I'm being seen as a passenger and a leech that STBXH is working to free himself from to move on to a happy ever after. I've become the enemy overnight.

I think all we can do is just keep going, one step at a time. So many people have said that it does get so much better once it's all sorted out and that it is usually the abandoned wives who end up happier than the runaway husbands in these situations. I do hope there's some truth in that.

I think that something to hold on to is that despite the pain of betrayal and the upheaval of our lives, we are the ones who will be able to hold up our heads because we didn't cheat or lie or betray. They are the ones who put their own selfish needs above the happiness of others and rushed off to shiny new lives leaving their families devastated in their wake. Selfish, selfish, entitled men. There's a lot to be said for achieving the moral high ground and I know that further down this horrible, shitty path, it will become even more important. I hold on to that thought when I'm tempted - and, God, am I tempted - to wreak some form of revenge on him and her. It's nice to hold on to the fantasy of revenge, though Grin

Well, better get off and prepare for the appointment. Pack my tissues and all that.

Chin up to all those who are going through misery at the moment. We are all worth so much more than this and it is NO reflection on us at all. Their behaviour says more about their characters than it does about ours and we are not to be defined by their selfish, self-serving, entitled actions. Oh, and let's hope their willies all drop off.

Kirk123 · 01/09/2016 10:53

Tartan I appreciate your difficulty coming home me too you are not alone . I have tried so hard to cut myself off this week and gone totally no contact on day 6 !!!! I can't wait to stop dreaming about him though 😡😡 I wish I could just fast forward to my new life hand holding a lovely man with loyalty in his eyes and he adores me 🙏. hush we are in Bergen , Norway is beautiful stopped at stevanger olden and flam a full day sailing tomorrow , I am sat here in the rain in a bar at the front of the ship it's silent lots of people reading writing doing their thing ! I am enjoying the time to reflect and hoping one day I am cruising with happiness in my heart ladies of like mind who are on my journey with me at this difficult time ,I am 17 months down the line and I am still in a state of shock but nowhere near how broken I was this time last year , I am finding me and breathing and holding up my head when it's right for me xxxx

Hushabyemountain98 · 01/09/2016 12:24

Hi Pisco,
Glad you are well but brief!
The weather is good here too.
Have a good day xx

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Hushabyemountain98 · 01/09/2016 12:54

Hi Tartan,

Have just come back from running my son to the station and walking the dogs. All behind today for a change!
I am glad that you enjoyed your time away visiting old friends. It us good that you got to talk and drink some wine!
It is always difficult when you have to leave and return to the mess that is currently your life! All we can hope is that this time will pass and we can create new happy memories!
I have done a lot of crying again too. I felt really down when I was out walking the dogs this morning. I still have thoughts of how I could end all the pain but then he has really won. As you know it sometimes all just gets too much! It is the scary uncertain future that worries me!

I am sorry that you are having trouble with you car let's hope it will be something simple like the battery. Walking with heavy shopping bags is not quite so good. It plays havoc with my shoulders.

I am sorry that your DS had a few more friends around than you had counted on! Still I suppose it could have been worse and at least the neighbours are still talking to you. I would take full advantage of the 'crawling'.

I hope your visit to the solicitor today is okay and also mediation tomorrow.
It is horrible. I hate it all. I got in a state over money yesterday as it us though 'big brother' is watching you! My STBXH sees the money as being his as I am the lazy woman who did nothing for years! I just do not know how it is going to work out and it frightens me. I have become the enemy overnight too.

You are right we can only keep going, one step at a time. If I look at houses I just get depressed. My counsellor told me not to look!
Let's hope we will end up happier than the runaway husbands in the end. Maybe that's karma!

We are able to hold are heads up high as we did not lie and cheat and betray the people we were supposed to love. They are totally selfish along with the OW.

I better get some housework done. I hope your appointment goes as well as it can and that you did not need too many tissues.
You really made me laugh when I read your last comment. That is something to wish for.
Take care xx

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Hushabyemountain98 · 01/09/2016 13:02

Hi Kirk.
I am glad that you are getting to see Norway.
It is good that you are enjoying the quiet time to reflect.
Good to read that you are a lot better than you were a year ago. There is hope for the ladies on her that are not so far on as you.
There must be better lives out there for us as I am sure we deserve so much more than the hand we have been dealt.
Well I better go and get the housework done.
Enjoy your day xxx

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Hushabyemountain98 · 02/09/2016 10:59

Good morning all.
I am off to the Dentist shortly as I managed to pull one of my crowns off yesterday! Hopefully he will stick it back on for me!

I hope your visit to the Solicitor yesterday went as well as it could Tartan and that too many tissues were not needed? Good luck with mediation today.

I hope that the cruise is good today Kirk. Is the weather good where you are? It is overcast here today and not that warm.

I hope you are okay Pisco? How is your day going?

I hope that madame, ThankGod and louisa are all having a good day?

I have walked my dogs, taken my son to the train station, put the bread on the tray and done some ironing. I better go as I need to get to the Dentist.

Have a good day!xx

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ThankGodItsThursday · 02/09/2016 14:15

Afternoon all. Well the weather has certainly changed albeit temporarily. Forecast for next week is looking good.
I've been to work this morning. Prior to the split I only worked 4 days a week but I had to go back full time so now work Friday mornings as well. Another thing to hold against him.
Been busy getting things together for my daughter to go off to university. Two weeks tomorrow and it will be just me and the dog 😓
I went out last night for a few hours and I'm also going out Sunday. I'm still doing the Pilates and my soft furnishings course starts again next Thursday. So trying to keep busy. Got lots to catch up on tv wise so that's the plan for tonight along with a glass of wine.
Hope you've managed to get your crown sorted Hush.
X

Hushabyemountain98 · 02/09/2016 21:32

Good evening ThankGod.
Sorry for delay in replying but have been busy chasing about for my son.
The dentist sorted my crown out thank goodness. No more chewy bon bons for me!
I hope the weather improves. It has been wet and miserable today.
Try to make the most of the time with your daughter before she goes to Uni. Unlike our husbands our children will always love us and they know where there home is!
I am glad that you are trying to keep busy.
I am catching up on the doses and I think I will join you in a glass of wine!
Enjoy your evening xx

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tartanbuggy · 03/09/2016 12:19

Morning all!

Definitely lay off the bon bons Hush. I lost my crown on a slice of Soreen Malt Loaf. It was the Friday evening before a bank holiday weekend and the crown was right at the very front. Every time I grinned I looked like the village idiot. When I spoke, I proved it.

I know what you mean about the dreams Kirk - I've been having them too and they are horrible. I just wish I could fast forward my life a little bit and get past this.

Mediation was yesterday and, as predicted, I blubbed. Then blubbed some more and some more again. Then I got totally drunk and am now paying the price. I have resurrected my original thread and posted a very long, misery post about it on there.

Will be doing an update on it because I have had a text from STBXH via DD2 with regard to the mediation session.

Hope everybody is doing as well as can be expected? It's incredible just how many of us are going through this horrible, horrible thing. Until it happened to me I had no idea how many men left their wives for OW and in such a similar manner. I do know that some women leave their husbands for OM, but it seems to be more common the other way round.

I really am Little Miss Cheerful today!

Kirk123 · 03/09/2016 13:12

Thankgod like hush says enjoy the time with your daughter you will grieve for her as you are vulnerable. Tartan you are allowed to have sad days we are still in pain from the shock and grieving for our futures we thought we had planned out 😢 Got off the ship at 9am , nearly home now and it's raining , raining and more rain ! Good job strictly is on tonight , but watching strictly and X factor alone is horrible as you have no one to analyse the songs/dances with , I am still on I contact and hope I can continue this on dry land girls , fingers crossed I need to start moving on , there is only me that can change my direction and I need to be stronger and less reflective on my past and look towards a future , but I know I will struggle to trust another man now , ex has ruined my trust now in everyone 😢

Hushabyemountain98 · 03/09/2016 15:24

Good Afternoon Tartan.
I posted on your thread earlier.
Glad to see that you have resurrected it.
Keep going.
I am definitely laying off the bon bons. Sorry you had the same problem with malt loaf. I was luckier than you as mine was slightly more to the side. My teeth are a nightmare at the moment. Made much worse as the OW has perfect teeth.
Just another thing that gets to me!
Sorry that you blubbed at Mediation. Still these emotions have to come out!
I promise myself when I go to the Counsellor that I will not cry but I always do. I normally apologise and she reminds me that if I did not have problems I would not be there!
I hope your hangover subsides soon!
I am looking after my friends little girl for a couple of hours. Which takes my mind away from other things for a while as she keeps me on the go!
Later I am going to watch X factor with her Mum and we will have a few glasses of wine.
I better finish as I am required to put some Lego together!

Have a nice evening xx

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Hushabyemountain98 · 03/09/2016 15:36

Just a quickie Kirk as I am doing a spot if childminding for a friend.
I hope you are home now and that you will have a nice evening watching Strictly and X Factor. How sad are we?
I hope you can continue with the NC rule now you are at home again.
I still think that we cannot look too far ahead as that will do our heads in. One day at a time!
Have a good evening xx

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louisatwo · 03/09/2016 20:17

Nothing sad about Strictly etc by ourselves. As long as there is Wine and Cake . I'm having a busy weekend and am slightly stressed so am collapsed in front of strictly but must go and sort out what is making me feel stressed shortly. (unless I have too much wine in which case I will be up at stupid o'clock in the morning sorting everything Grin )
Remember -being alone is better than being with people who hurt you. Flowers & Wine for everyone - except Kirk who must stay off the Wine
xxx

Hushabyemountain98 · 03/09/2016 21:13

I watched Strictly by myself louisa. That is no different as it was with my dh as he hated the show!
I have wine but no cake.
I am watching X factor now with my son as I didn't go to my friends house to watch it as her husband didn't go out as planned this evening.
I hope you manage to sort out what is making you stressed.
Why does Kirk need to stay off the wine?
Have a nice evening xx

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louisatwo · 03/09/2016 21:35

Ooops Blush - it is of course Tartan with the hangover - sorry Kirk!

Sighs.... off to bed now before I insult anyone else. Have a good Sunday everyone. xxx

Hushabyemountain98 · 03/09/2016 21:36

I hope that you are okay WTAFF?
Are you having a good weekend?
I hope you are. The weather has been really miserable down here today.
How is it your end?
Bye for now xx

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Hushabyemountain98 · 03/09/2016 21:39

Don't worry louisa!
I am sure Kirk will forgive you!
I hope you sleep well.
Have a good Sunday xx

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Kirk123 · 04/09/2016 08:15

Of course I forgive you Louisa as I drink vodka 😂 I hate wine so always off that 🍷! My son stayed in last night too hush so he tolerated strictly with me as someone does who loves you !!! You are right though Louisa who wants to share their tv with a lying cheat 😡 Not me , each this space ex his apparently changing jobs tomorrow is his first day to move away from working with her ! Lol he says he wants his kids back , well I bet my life on it he won't end it with her for them ! He will never get me back though as I am a different stronger woman now who doesn't tolerate lying cheats who bombed my whole family up to the sky 😡

Hushabyemountain98 · 04/09/2016 09:25

Hi Kirk.
So you are into spirits not wine!
I am glad your son stayed in with you last night too.
At least our children care about us!
I wish I could say that I am a stronger woman but I am not yet!
Still finding it all so hard.
Have a good day xx

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tartanbuggy · 04/09/2016 10:32

Morning all. I keep laughing at Kirk being given my hangover. If I'd known, I'd have drunk more. Sorry, Kirk Grin

How are you today Hush? Yes, I know what you mean about crying and it just seems to happen without warning. I only have to think about things sometimes and the tears just flow. Everything seems so bleak and dark at the moment and I feel I'm being propelled at speed towards a future that I neither know nor want. I hope this phase passes because I'm not sure I can cope with it for much longer. I guess we are bound to have ups and downs; it really is the most horrible thing to go through.

I get what you mean about comparing yourself to OW (perfect teeth thing) and I tend to do the same. In my case it's the age thing that really gets to me - her 28 to my 54. How the hell can I ever get over that? The humiliation is all-encompassing especially when I imagine them sitting together, as I am sure they do, discussing the future and finances and her chipping in with her suggestions and comments. A selfish and uncaring young woman with my future and financial well-being and that of my children, dangling in her hands. And yes, I know STBXH is equally culpable, but still .... it bloody hurts.

Then as somebody, somewhere, once said to me "The type of woman who would willingly and knowingly pursue and sleep with a married man with children deserves to end up with the type of man who would walk out on his family" That does resonate with me. So, the OW may have perfect teeth and a lovely exterior, but what's on the inside endures far longer than what's on the outside.

Never do yourself down Hush; you are fantastic. In all your posts you come over as a completely selfless and very caring person. I get the feeling that you have spent your life, and certainly your marriage, putting others' needs before your own and smoothing their paths through life. It is so cruel that people like you end up being so badly treated in the way that you have been. Your STBXH sounds like the polar opposite of you - he seems entirely selfish, self-absorbed, entitled and probably a large dose of narcissism there as well. You are worth so so much more than him and his OW and I really believe that although you are hurting hugely at the moment, he will be the one who loses out in the long run. Just you keep going and keep on being the person you are.

Here endeth the lecture. Grin

Kirk123 · 04/09/2016 11:16

Tartan and hush I have had all the same feelings, ow is 40 and looks like me at 40 which is scary she has died her hair like mine and I think she wants my life ? Silly woman she gets a liar who will get sick of her as she doesn't have my money which he liked !!! I am only better due to antidepressants which I have since 3 months after he was a runaway husband ! It's 18 months in 6 days and I can't remember him lying next to me now in bed , I think when my son leaves uni I need to sell this house as it has too many memories but at the moment I am good enough for today anyway , another shitty boring Sunday eh ! Watching 6 episodes of coronation street now 😂

Hushabyemountain98 · 04/09/2016 12:23

Good morning all.
Thank you Tartan for your message.
You may have to change your tipple if you are going to drink on behalf of Kirk!
I have just walked the dogs and once again that awful feeling of desperation came over me again. I seem to have such a heavy weight on my shoulders!
I hope that this phase passes for us soon. I cannot cope with it for much longer either. I also have a fear that it is going to get worse before it gets better!
It is a horrible thing to go through. I think in someways it is worse than bereavement. As if you lose a loved one they normally die loving you! Whereas this is different!

My husbands OW is younger but not that much younger. Not this time at least. She has a perfect smile and teeth though and she is a highly qualified academic and I am just a normal woman, wife(was) and Mum.
Now I am not even qualified to be a wife. I have been given the sack and replaced by a younger model. This is why I feel so inadequate!
Going back to your husbands OW I cannot see that lasting. I know that doesn't help you at the moment but I think he will be the sad and lonely one sooner or later.
These other women are totally selfish too and where are their morals?
Thank you for your kind words about me. You come across exactly the same. I have always done everything for him and now they have taken my life away. It feels so unfair. What would I do if he knocked the door and asked to come home? That is the thing I do not know? The trouble is I have taken him back several times before and I do not think I would survive this again. Here come the tears again.

I hope you have a good day xx

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Hushabyemountain98 · 04/09/2016 12:30

Hi Kirk,

I hope you are enjoying catching up on Coronation Street.
I have been watching Narco on Netflix with my son. It is so violent but compulsive viewing!
I have to sort him out for his new job tomorrow. He is going away for training for several weeks but will be home at the weekend.
Let's hope your ex gets sick of the OW and that he realises what he has lost!
I just started hope that we all end up with much happier lives eventually as this emotional roller coaster is just awful.

Have a good Sunday xx

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Kirk123 · 04/09/2016 12:37

If he knocks on that door hush, I want you to get on here and we will all tell you to sit behind it on the floor and stay there until he's gone , he doesn't deserve you at all ever . You are too good for him , yes we are grieving but we need to go through this together and unfortunately our love for them is unrequited , we must leArn to heal ourselves and we can't get over it and we can't get under it we need to get through it ( remember that kids book I am going on a bear hunt ) that's us 😢