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That Sunday Feeling!

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Hushabyemountain98 · 24/05/2016 08:13

Welcome to to my new thread. I hope that all my MN friends from Onwards and Upwards will join me and maybe a few new ones!xx

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Tattieboggle · 15/06/2016 18:28

please excuse the typos - i pressed send instead of preview

Hushabyemountain98 · 15/06/2016 20:46

Sorry Pisco but I have been busy today.
I see that I walked the 'gigs' this morning! I hope they were easier than the dogs!
My sister and brother in law came for coffee. She bought the cake today. Iced lemon drizzle cake and very nice it was too.
My son didn't put in appearance as he was in bed!
Then I cleared the ironing mountain!
Went out and got some shopping.
Cut the grass front and back.
Cooked dinner and now I am laid on the sofa with my iPad. My son is playing some PlayStation game that has loads of killing!
I hope you had a good day?
xx

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Hushabyemountain98 · 15/06/2016 21:05

Good evening ThankGod.
I am glad that you managed another Magnum!
Hopefully it brightened up your day!
I hope the house viewing went well and that there was positive feedback?
Fingers crossed.
I've cut my grass today as I don't think the forecast is so good for tomorrow.
Good luck with yours.
It is mainly my sister and brother in law that come. They try to come weekly to keep my head above water. They have been really good to me.
I hope your sewing course goes well tomorrow.
It is also good that you have joined a Pilates class.Great for your body and for meeting different people.
I hope you are having a nice evening?xx

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Hushabyemountain98 · 15/06/2016 21:16

Hi Tattieboggle.
I am glad that everything is good with you and your family.
The new baby, your wee grandson and best of all your son.
It is so good to read that he is more like his old self.
Long may it continue.

Glad that your fitness regime is working. You still need to have some treats.
Everything in moderation!
I am off to make a cup of tea now.
So glad to hear about your son.
Good night xx

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ThankGodItsThursday · 16/06/2016 16:59

Hello everyone.
I thought the viewing last night went well. She said she liked it and would come back with her partner. But today nothing! I wish people wouldn't say these things if they don't mean them. I know it can be a bit awkward looking round someone's house but there's no need to get people's hopes up.
The weather today has been a little better but we've still had some rain. The garden looks in desperate need of a tidy and the lawn cutting. Just hope the weather stays dry at the weekend like the forecasts are saying.
Hush it's very thoughtful of your sister and her husband to visit weekly. I think we only realise how nice some people are when something awful happens and they are there for you.
Tattie glad things are going well with your new grandson and also that your sons medication appears to be sorted.
Enjoy your evenings everyone.

Hushabyemountain98 · 16/06/2016 19:01

Hello ThankGod.
I am sorry that you have not heard anything from the lady who was interested in your home yesterday. Perhaps she meant it when she said it. Maybe her partner had other ideas or maybe she will still come back!
It has been pouring with rain here since 3pm. I took my youngest back and it was scary on the motorway as I couldn't see. By the time I had dropped him off and collected books etc from my other son several of the roads were flooded and the water went right over the car. Thunder and lightening too. It was really bad and it is still pouring now!
I hope you get to cut the grass over the weekend. I am glad I cut mine yesterday.
How did your sewing course go today?
I went out for coffee this morning with a friend and it was sunny then. Hard to believe now!
Tomorrow I have to get some sorting out done. I have just put a lot of clothes away in my son's room. I opened the door and I couldn't look at it. So I did what I could!
My sister and her husband have been really good to me. It is a wonder that she is not fed up with all the crying! She is not a youngster either! My mum would be pleased if she is looking down.
I am going to have a glass of prosecco now as I think I have earnt it!
Have a nice evening xx

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Hushabyemountain98 · 17/06/2016 11:58

Good morning all.
The sun is out again after the awful day yesterday turned in to.
The trouble is the dogs are messy after their walk!
I am trying to muster the enthusiasm to get tidying.
I really need to do it before the next lot of stuff arrives from my sons houses!
I have spent quite a lot of time looking at old threads on here.
I am not sure whether that is making me feel better or worse!
I was awake at 2am running everything through my mind!
I was also thinking of Jo Cox and her family. What a terrible thing to happen.
In a few weeks time there is an event I would have been going to and I expect he will be taking the OW. It makes me feel so low!
Here come the tears again.
One good thing that happened was my youngest got an excellent degree result. Very proud!
I better close for now.
Have a good day xx

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WTAFF · 17/06/2016 14:23

Hi Hush.

It's terrible news about the MP who was murdered and it really does make you think doesn't it?

I'm just at the salon getting my pre-holiday haircut.

I'm so pleased your son got a brilliant degree result.

It's awful that you would have been going to that event and now you're not. Your life is turned upside down and I'm so sorry about that. However, ask yourself honestly - would you want to go knowing what you now know? Probably not. I don't know if it helps to think of it like that. Xx

Hushabyemountain98 · 17/06/2016 14:48

Hi WTAFF.

It is terrible news about Jo Cox.
You never know what is going to happen!
That was the last thing her family would have thought of.
Such a waste.

I hope you are enjoying having your hair cut?
Where are you going on holiday?

I am glad my son did really well too. Just needs a job now. Which is not so easy!

I know what you are saying but I am finding it really difficult to move on. I sound a bit like a broken record! Someone on here told me that it can take a month for every year you were married to get over it! So I have a long way to go yet!

I hope you have a good day.
xx

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Tattieboggle · 17/06/2016 15:00

Husha, please take this in the spirit its intended - but you really are going to have to get out more. I know you have a heart condition but you're never done cutting the grass and I think if you can do that you can do some voluntary work. Im sorry if I sound hard, its not my intention, but you have to stop reading old threads here and the only way you are going to do that is if you fill your time with other things.

These links will hopefully give you something to mull over

do-it.org
www.royalvoluntaryservice.org.uk/volunteer
www.ncvo.org.uk/ncvo-volunteering/i-want-to-volunteer

I really get that this isn't the life you wanted. Its not the life I wanted either, and I can recall saying to my pal - I dont want to be some saddo who has to fill her life volunteering. But I know love the volunteer work I do and all I do is collect used clothes and toys via a FB page I belong to. Its for people who have things to sell or give away and every month I ask for bundles of pre loved clothes that are in good condition and I send them to a family friend in Mombassa who then distributes them to those who are most in need. Im very lucky really and last month alone I sent 150 kilos of clothes for men, women and children. I just set up home in a coffee shop one morning and one afternoon a month and I sit there and wait for people to drop things off. I always offer people a cuppa but usually they'll say just put the cost towards the shipping. But I also go to people who can't get to the coffee shop and that takes another afternoon a month. Packing and taking them to the shipping company takes another morning or afternoon as everyone at home helps with the sorting and packing. So really its just a couple of days a month and Ive met so many nice people of different nationalities and backgrounds. Some of them very poor themselves but they still like to give and they usually say, I didn't have much growing up and my child is lucky to not be in need so please take these items.

Tomorrow Im going to someone's house for India Dosa and it doesnt matter that we wont really be able to speak to each other because communication isn't just speaking and on this occasion Im taking pictures of a Hindu wedding that my daughter attended in India last year just so we're not sitting looking at each other.

Honestly voluntary/charity work is great and to be frank if this is what being a saddo is then thats ok with me because my tiny tiny efforts have made a huge difference in my life and I love doing it now.

And a huge well done to your son. You have every right to be so proud of him and I hope you'll go to his graduation all dolled up to the nines Wink

Hushabyemountain98 · 17/06/2016 18:23

Hi Tattieboggle,
Thank you for your message.
I know I need to get out of the house more but that is easier said than done.
We are all different. At the moment I still cannot do things that I want to do. I am fine with people I know but not strangers.
My counsellor thinks that I am getting stronger but I still don't feel stronger.
I will take a look at the links you sent me.
I am glad that volunteering is working for you and maybe it will for me but it is a matter of confidence and at the moment I do not have any!
I told one of the ladies on here that when my dh went off before it was the end of my youngest sons time at junior school and there were cake stalls and various stalls and activities. I made cakes for the stall and one of my best friends asked me to join her and another mum on the cake stall. I couldnt as it would have meant talking to people and I couldn't. So I volunteered to pick up the rubbish as that did not require speaking to anyone! That is how I feel now.
Enjoy the Dosa tomorrow.
Thank you for congratulating my son. I am going to his graduation. Will have to find a really nice outfit. Hopefully something that fits properly!
Have a nice evening.
xx

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Tattieboggle · 17/06/2016 20:18

Husha, I understand what you've said but if you felt the same way the last time you were in this situation is it perhaps not time to try and do it differently this time round? Its history repeating itself with him doing it and you reacting the same way, and no good is going to come of it.

And I wouldn't pay too much attention to what people say about one month for every year a person has been with a partner and not just because its something that would be very difficult to quantify so I'm not convinced its true. Some people wont take very long and thats ok, just as its ok for people to take longer, but whats not ok is someone saying oh I can just sit here happily unhappy a while longer because I still have 8 months or 3 months, or 5 months of my x amount of time left.

Personally I'll never get over what has happened and its just yesterday I said to my counsellor there's so much I can't come to terms with because how can you come to terms with something you can't believe a person did, or you can't believe it happened. But working that out has helped and I don't fight it anymore, I just accept it and live around it by making my life bigger than those thoughts.

I can sense you're a peed off with me and I'm sorry about that but something has to change because doing things the same way you did previously wasn't good for you then and its not good for you now or in the long run either

Hushabyemountain98 · 17/06/2016 21:31

Hi Tattieboggle,
I am not peed off with you at all.
You have given me a lot of support and helped me a great deal.
So if I gave you that impression I am sorry.
I will try something new as soon as I can.
I have struggled today as my dh has been in contact again and also I had a lousy nights sleep.
I will finish for tonight as I am trying not to over tax my brain so hopefully I can have a good nights sleep.
Take care xx

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Hushabyemountain98 · 18/06/2016 10:46

Good morning all.
The weather is not great here but it is dry.
I hope it is okay where you are?
I have walked the dogs.
Been to the post office and now I am going to muster the enthusiasm to do some housework after I have started the bread.
What are you doing today?
The thing is Saturday Kitchen is on and I really like watching that so I may find something to do while I am watching it.
Have a good day!
xx

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Tattieboggle · 18/06/2016 15:31

I am not peed off with you at all

Im so pleased about that Smile

Thank you.

Hushabyemountain98 · 18/06/2016 18:29

Hello Tattieboggle,

How are you today?
I hope everything is good with your family?
I have sorted some of my drawers today.
Thrown some bits and pieces away.
Going to have a nice glass of wine in a minute.
I hope you are having a nice evening.
xx😀🍷

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ThankGodItsThursday · 18/06/2016 18:38

Evening.
I'm shattered - just cut the grass which took longer than normal because it had two weeks worth of growth and used the electric hedge trimmer to trim back the laurel. Had to send the dog indoors because he keeps attacking the wheels of the lawnmower!
Hush correct me if I'm way off the mark and overstepping your boundaries but if he did this before and then came back are you harbouring the hope that he will return this time? If so would you really take him back?
My husband text my daughter again last night but she didn't see the text until this morning. Bless her she was so tired from all the revision that she's been doing that she fell asleep on the sofa last night at 7.30pm and I woke her up at 8.30 to go to bed. He just asked if she'd got the letter he sent (about 3 weeks ago). She deleted the text after telling me and has now blocked his number. Hardly a coincidence that tomorrow is Father's Day and for the first time in years he won't be getting anything. It's strange because I thought to myself yesterday I hope he sits at home on Father's Day and thinks about what he's given up in his quest for "happiness"!
I'm going to treat myself tomorrow to a sewing machine. Hopefully when the house sells and I move I can fill some evenings making curtains etc.
I'm going to pour a large glass of wine Wine and watch some TV with my daughter. Hope you all enjoy your evenings Smile

Hushabyemountain98 · 18/06/2016 19:05

Good Evening ThankGod.
I am glad that you have cut the grass.
If you leave it a bit longer between cuts it is hard work. The trouble is the weather makes it difficult to cut it when you want to. At least it is done for a few minutes!
I have to put my dogs inside when I do mine as they get in the way.

I have taken my dh back twice. As much as I would like to have him back I cannot as in a few years I will be in the position and I cannot go through this again and the trust has gone. The hardest thing is I still love him. I don't like him at all though. Plus he is all loved up with the high flying other woman.

I am not sure that these men think what they are giving up, only what they have gained at the moment, but we shall see!

It is good that you are treating yourself to a sewing machine. I am sure you will get enjoyment from it.

Enjoy your evening watching TV with your daughter and a large glass of wine🍷xx

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Hushabyemountain98 · 19/06/2016 15:02

Good afternoon all.
I hope that your Sunday is going well.
I know that none of us like the 'Sunday Feeling'.
Also not so good as it is Fathers Day!
My Dad has been gone for a few years now but I still miss him so much.

It looks like it is going to rain any minute!
Not very good for June!

I have made the bread, brushed the dogs and done some food and wine shopping! I need to vacuum up now, especially as there is dog fur floating about!

I am also switching between watching the tennis and the Grand Prix.

Earlier I had to fight off my the feelings of inadequacy. I don't know how I am going to get over them? I will ask my counsellor if she has any suggestions tomorrow.

Here's hoping you are all having a good day?

xx

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Tattieboggle · 19/06/2016 16:36

Hi Husha, I'd forgotten it was fathers day as we don't have it here. Not that I think my husband would be getting anything from the children even if we did. Things are not great with my gang and their dad. In fact in one case its non-existent and the other 3 are fast following suit. But Ive worked it all out now and the more they resist meeting the OW and going to stay with them when they're 'up there' the more he is paying them back for it by deliberately drifting away. And of course that hurts me for my kids but more than that I know he is doing to hurt me so that my kids will say look we better do what he says so he'll stop hurting mama. He claims not to be angry with me but he is and thats why he uses our youngest son as a weapon as well. He's evil and off his head.

It just all fell into place yesterday when I told my SIL what my DIL had said to him and she told me - he came her as well and offered us accommodation with them and the use of his driver to take us anywhere we want to go when we go to 'up there' for the weekend. And again he said - I dont know why you are all so afraid of Tattie!!!! And again he was told - its nothing to do with fear and everything to do with loving and respecting her, and your children.

This is my SIL who I had at our Surgeons within 2 hours of her telling me she had a breast lump. It was cancer and she had her op 3 days later. I went to every hospital stay and appointment with her for two years. It almost killed me because I was also juggling my house and family but she's now passed her 5 year mark and will soon be 70. She told him I'll never betray someone who saved my life and my family, and nor will my children, but even if she hadn't saved my life she's one of us and always will be - no one else will ever stand in front of me as a SIL.

He just doesn't get it and never will. He's like a giant sodding sponge who just takes takes takes, nothing is enough for him, and I can recall one night saying to my friend even how I looked after SIL meant nothing to him. Nothing I did was good enough. And yes it was wrong to think of it that way but these bastards make you so hungry for love and recognition that you lose your marbles in many ways.

And another example of that is when my other SIL died. I'd just had my hair washed at the hairdressers when my SIL called and was screaming and saying come come come. So I jumped out of the chair and went to the hospital and was there when my SIL died. Then I took all the sisters to her house, prepared the room for her body coming home and sorted out everything we'd need to prepare her for burial. Bugger lugs was away 'up there on business' so I phoned him and said this has happened and you have to come back but don't worry I'll look after her till you're here. My girls prepared their aunty with her daughters and we all sat around her till he arrived and she was taken away to the Mosque. And again its wrong to think of things like this but again its shows nothing was good enough and to be frank there are days when the injustice of it all still stings like hell.

He doesn't understand respect/loyalty and its like people have said to him, under normal circumstances none of us would have any acquaintance with the type of woman you married and whilst you have had to close your eyes and re-write history regarding what led up to the situation today - the rest of us haven't had to and we never will.

So its all my fault. Im scaring people into not meeting her and going to say with them when they're 'up the road' for the weekend . It has absolutely nothing to do with what went on and how my children are all grown up now and parents themselves and they look at their children and say - if he loved us..........

Anyway Ive told my children I can take any amount of nonsense from him and they've never to do anything they don't want to do in order to stop me being hurt. And I am hurt. A lot. But I'll be ok by tomorrow as thats the way it goes after so long and things still rear their ugly bloody head.. You still hurt but not for long - and dinner with my sons family tonight will help put it into perspective because Ive got kids who are my everything, and Im also theirs.

And I have to admit to being heartened that one of my boys said to me yesterday Mama, we know why he wants us all there and its because we are his respectability in a filthy situation. That when people say to him what do the children think, have they accepted this, do they come and visit, and he says to them no - they wont accept/condone the situation either because they'll be well aware that the story behind must be awful. But you see even that has a sting in its tail because my children must feel - ah once we accept this he'll drop us like a tonne of bricks. And its true - he would because they'd be of no more use to him.

God I dont half go on at times and Im hoping this helps some of you - especially Husha who's husband is my husbands cosmic twin.

PiscoSour66 · 19/06/2016 16:46

Tattie that's exactly it. Me and my children are his respectability in a filthy and sordid situation. Make that cosmic triplets. X

Hushabyemountain98 · 19/06/2016 17:38

Hi Tattie,
I have read through your post twice.
I think you know this already but you have done all you can for this man. I have done the same for mine and it wasn't good enough.
He must realise what he has done. He didn't go for an upgrade when he left you. My dh thinks he did. That is the thing that I cannot accept. I do not know how I am going to get over it this time.
I know that I am doing the wrong thing by looking at pictures of her but I cannot seem to help it. There she is with her perfect smile and her perfect teeth. I do not have perfect teeth and I cannot smile properly anymore!
She has a brilliant job. What do I have? I do not hear from his family. What has he told them? What do his colleagues think? Where do they think I have gone?
Sorry I didn't want to turn this around to be about me.
I heard from him on Friday and yesterday. Now that is it again! Silence!
My heart has been flipping over for a couple of days.
Your children know the truth and they know who will be there for them. Their constant. You are still a huge part of their lives doing what a parent does. He is only on the outside looking in.
What kind of men are they to use their own children?
I am going to wash my face as I have been crying again.
Enjoy your dinner at your sons.
xx

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louisatwo · 19/06/2016 21:43

Tip toeing in to say hello and send good wishes and bucket loads of 'koko' where needed. I've been away on holiday and am just back.

Hush - so sorry that he still has the power to upset you. The only option is to turn away from that computer and those photos - but you know that. Maybe your counsellor can suggest some strategies to help with? We all do it at first - it's moving on from thinking about them and beginning to focus on yourself that's the challenge!

Sleep well all. xx

Hushabyemountain98 · 19/06/2016 21:50

Hi Louisa,
Welcome back! I hope you had a good holiday? Was the weather good?
I know I shouldn't be doing it. I will ask the counsellor for some strategies to help.

Thanks Louisa. Sleep well xx

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Hushabyemountain98 · 20/06/2016 08:56

Good morning all.
I hope that you all have a good week.
The weather is not good here. It is pouring down.
The dogs are looking keen to go out though!
Looks like I am going to get wet!
I have my counsellor later so hopefully that will help me.
So many things going around in my head.

Well I better go and get showered and get my day started.
Take care xx

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