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DRY 13

999 replies

lilybetsy · 17/05/2016 19:10

This is the thread for all those who are living, or committed to living, life free from alcohol.

I will quote a sober poster "I'm fitter, slimmer, richer, happier & healthier"

Go sober warriors !

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SlimCheesy · 26/05/2016 15:11

Hi again,

interesting about feeling below par when not taking vitamins...I have fallen behind on that too lately. Might go and do that right now.

Gratitude diary sounds good also......

Surprisingly DH volunteered to pick up DS and I have finished my report (I was working really well today!) so I am taking a cup of tea into the garden and will read in the sun.

Hope everyone is well and fine. Angry Bird.

lilybetsy · 26/05/2016 16:06

Hi all, bit flat here. huge row between DS1 and DP this morning. Lots of swearing and insulting by both. Their relationship is hostile at worst and barely civil at best . Muggins is stuck in the middle . I find it unbearably stressful and an insoluble problem. DS 1 is 17. He has aspergers and has bombed his GCSE's last year, he is resitting now , but has not done the course work so he will not pass.

He is a habitual liar (constant) about everything, and a thief. I understand why DP is fed up with him, BUT - and it's a big but - he is my son, and I love him. I also feel a complete obligation to do the very best I can for him - this does not include chucking him out as DP wants ...

Sigh.

Hope everyone else is ok

Lily 🌷

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SlimCheesy · 26/05/2016 16:13

Oh Lily. Thanks

MatronLittle · 26/05/2016 17:34

Lily keep on loving. Some things are only solved by time. The current is not necessarily the future. Flowers

Have you got something planned for yourself later?

MatronLittle · 26/05/2016 18:06

I'm a bit twitchy tonight. Hard days work = deserves a glass of wine. Good job I have blue Becks in the fridge. I'm going to water the garden and have one of those beauties.

AbsoluteBeginner · 26/05/2016 18:39

Joining you on the Becks Blue matron cheers! Angry Bird

AbsoluteBeginner · 26/05/2016 18:41

lily sorry to hear you a bit down, I'm sorry I haven't got anything insightful to offer re your DP and DS1, I wish I did because you're so kind with other people's difficulties Flowers

MatronLittle · 26/05/2016 18:44

absloute I love this stuff Grin cheers!

jojomo · 26/05/2016 18:49

That's a very tough situation lily, of course you love your son and you ARE doing your best for him. I hope you have something nice in store for yourself this evening.

matron enjoy the becks blue and the feeling of a hard days work done!

Had to fight the wine urge earlier also - kids have broken up today and it felt holiday-ish after school. But I ignored it and the urge passed.

MatronLittle · 26/05/2016 19:22

jojo the school holidays are really tricky for me too. Mainly because I take time off from work so I used to equate no morning alarm with a big opportunity to drink up. Plus I work furiously in the run up to school holidays so it's that classic pressure/release mechanism.

HowBadIsThisPlease · 26/05/2016 20:42

Dammit day 1 :(

A whole world of sad face about last night.

I went out with an old drinking buddy and just didn't know what to do with her without drinking.

I feel so different today. Everything feels wrong. I had been tentatively confident; relatively calm; curious about a changed world as a single person.

Today I just feel anxious and fucked up. Really sad. Really bereft. just wanted to come home and watch a box set with a man and not feel alone.

Under so much pressure from everything - it feels - when I've had a drink.

this is awful, but I don't even know how close I want to be to her now. She is single too and in a way I am finding a bit chilling. I spent a lot of time with her in my 20s and early 30s, and you know what, I'm not sure that she was a great influence. I made a lot of terrible decisions -many of which under the influence of booze and class A's, which is my fault alone of course - but ... I find her a bit scary now.

I know I feel bad today because I was a fool and drank. But I can't help feeling that ... not all friends are the most healthy friends, too.

HowBadIsThisPlease · 26/05/2016 20:48

Lily, so sorry to hear about the tension between your DP and DS. It sounds as if you are being jammed between two large objects and the pressure is excruciating.

I don't have any suggestions, I'm afraid. My dcs are little and I was a horrific teenager myself. So no wisdom here. but loving him is definitely right. I do know that much.

HowBadIsThisPlease · 26/05/2016 20:51

I love you lot. Just being here and having someone to talk to is making me feel better. Thank you all.

Sybilramkinvimes · 26/05/2016 21:02

Popping in with Flowers for those that need them. Haven't read absolutely everything, but lily, matron, howbad much sympathy. Howbad, this is a blip and as the poison works its way out, you will feel better. And you can think about your friend in due course.

Lily, nothing useful to say but so sorry things are difficult.

Like matron am crazy busy with work and shattered but took time for a walk on this beautiful May evening. Now have watered my tubs and settled in the garden with camomile tea as it turns twighlighty and magic.

Brew Cake Angry Bird to all the sober warriors.

LikeaHurricane · 26/05/2016 21:24

Howbad it sounds like your friendship has possibly run its course. It happens. Sad but true. People change over the years so maybe it's time to end the friendship?? You have to be strong and take care of you, now more than ever Flowers

Lily...Flowers

KOKO sober warriors. I'm so grateful that you are here and that I found you Angry Bird

MatronLittle · 26/05/2016 21:34

howbad first of all get yourself through feeling anxious and sad. Then don't waste this opportunity to better understand the reasons why you drank. You can do this. I'm on day 6 We can start again together Chocolate

finnishbiscuiteater · 26/05/2016 21:41

Flowers for those that need them, and those that just fancy something to brighten the day up!

Am feeling nervous about the holidays too - but hoping to actually have at least one proper day or with kids. Will try to replace wine with yoga.

Hugs lily - being caught in the middle is the pits.

Howbad - some friendships are not healthy. I'm wondering if a 'today I'm not drinking' way of looking at things would help - so you're not having to say I can never be friends again, but can think today this is not who I need to spend time with...?

(I may be projecting because I'm thinking about that a lot, I know I don't want to drink at the moment, but I panic when I try to plan 6 months ahead of being sober. I guess on day 12 I need to take it day by day! )

We got this, today we're not drinking

MatronLittle · 26/05/2016 21:44

howbad how you feel now was pretty much how you felt for much of the time when drinking Shock so forgive yourself and move on. There is nothing you have said or done that we all haven't done ourselves and you would forgive one of us.

By Saturday you will feel much much better I promise Flowers

MatronLittle · 26/05/2016 21:45

Finnish we have got this! Angry Bird

Nite all x

vxa2 · 26/05/2016 21:49

lily I am sorry you are in such a horrible, difficult position. It's unbelievably tough being a mum and I think you are doing really well in a far from simple situation. I hope perhaps the two of them are a bit calmer now Flowers

howbad it sounds as if that particular friendship is best left behind. A friend who makes you feel scared rings alarm bells. You need to look after yourself and you don't need anyone or anything which will undermine that. I know you can do this. You are so strong. Get some rest and tomorrow is a new day. Flowers

All ok here. Really knackered and sleep is crap. I am a bit anaemic so if I get that sorted it should help. Day 57. Smile

HowBadIsThisPlease · 26/05/2016 21:53

Thank you everyone, I appreciate the encouragement.

Matron, I think I am like you in that when I don't drink I feel so good I forget that it can feel so bad. Then it gets dangerous.

I feel sad for my friend. She was so brilliant and beautiful and amazing in her 20s and 30s. She walked into any job she wanted and she always did well at work because she is so clever and quick and assertive and charismatic. She and her first partner bought a house in London when I was struggling to make rent every month in a shared flat. I longed to be like her: beautiful, confident, successful, with an incredible lightness of touch. She never got bogged down or stuck with things like I always seemed to. I always seemed to be seething under the oppression of a stupid boss, or a noisy neighbour, or a crap boyfriend or something. She always seemed to be able to do anything and laugh anything off.

I'm not going to tell her story on here because it isn't mine to tell, but like me she is now separated with two small children, and like many women, coming out of a relationship with children has absolutely shafted her financially. She's feeling blocked and thwarted, and doing the kind of pound-by-pound nail biting budgeting that I always used to do and she never used to need to.

This is why I was feeling so good - good enough to slip - yesterday. At lunchtime, I set up a spreadsheet for my monthly outgoings on the basis that I'm single, and it looks like it works. If I'm careful, it looks like it works. I was flooded with a sense of power and relief when I clicked those obedient numbers into place. I need to cut a proper deal with P and have advice that it's fair. but to me it looks like it's ok and it works.

I pulled up all my old spreadsheets of the times I have done that before. It was always me, and I always did it on my own, and when I was bricking it - like the spreadsheet I did that had preschool childcare for two children in it - I was bricking it by myself. I looked at them and thought: nothing changes. Still me, dealing with things, on my own, facing up to the numbers. That sounds like a negative thought, but it wasn't. I was thinking: I can do this.

jojomo · 26/05/2016 22:33

My slips have often happened when I feel good too. I just forget the horrible effects alcohol has and before I know it I'm drinking.

On top of the alcohol you had an unsettling night with your old friend so it's no wonder you're feeling rubbish. But the calm can and will return after a good nights sleep and getting the alcohol out of your system.

Put the slip behind you and soldier on. Perhaps this lady is not the best person to spend time with at the moment.

On the positive side you are making progress with your plans, I know it must be scary but you are working with your instinct (it seems to me anyway from reading your posts) and that is usually the right way to go. I hope you feel more positive in the morning.

lilybetsy · 26/05/2016 23:34

howbad , I'm so sorry you are feeling crap, and that you got caught out last night. Maybe you do need to lose people who have heavy associations with drinking ? Especially if you find you have little in common when sober ? It's hard though .. Hope you have had a good evening tonight X

sybil your evening sounds lovely 🌻

Hope you are ok matron and hurricane ,jojo, beginner, and slim

vxa are you there ??

Love Lily 🌷x

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vxa2 · 27/05/2016 06:49

lily lovely I am here ! Posted below when I saw what a tough time you are having. Flowers
Does anyone know what this is ? Archers

MatronLittle · 27/05/2016 07:54

vxa is it a pub sign for the stags head?