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WTF have I done?

144 replies

CloudedPensive · 04/05/2016 23:36

Not really sure why I'm writing this,..i just need to get it out I think so don't mind about not replyingSmile
Been with Dh 8 years, have a toddler, we've had ups and downs like most couples etc.
We've been having a really good few months lately, stressful situations have been sorted out to do with housing and stuff.
Dh has always had a bit of a wandering eye, I've not really minded about it. He likes to go on social apps too.
Problem is that a couple of weeks ago when we where in bed he told me that he really fancies a woman from the app, they have talked for months, don't say much, she mostly sends rude pics and chats a little. I tried to be understanding and laugh it off as it's just infatuation.
However a week ago we were talking about it and he says he is sorry but he can't help fancying and wanting to sleep with this woman/other women. He said hr would probably have sex with her if he could. Somehow I ended up saying that I accept it and agreed to turn a blind eye, basically said if he needs a mistress then so be it. He is very happy with this.

I'm stupid to agree such things I know. I just feel it's better to accept such things, we have a great marriage otherwise.

I just feel so numb about it all though. I don't feel happy or sad. I can't believe this is what my marriage has turned into, me allowing a mistress. I've fucked up haven't I?

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BoatyMcBoat · 06/05/2016 18:12

You've got stuck in this situation because your dh has done a number on you. He has worn down your boundaries, by small degrees probably, so you didn't feel able to object to the next thing because he got you agreeing to the last thing.

Now you're coming to see how far you are from where you started, you are stuck because you don't know the way back, and because you've already taken the steps to get yourself here. You probably feel like it's your fault, like it's your own responsibility and that you got here by your own volition.

He has been gently pulling you in a direction which works for him, without any regard for you, your beliefs, your dreams, your real needs, your hopes, and your hopes for your children.

It's not your fault. He's been very clever and cunning. I hope you can begin to remember who you were before, and take steps to be that person again.

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LazySusan11 · 06/05/2016 19:47

Imagine your child grown up and married with a child of their own and they come to you devastated that their partner wants to sleep with someone else. You would be saying the same as everyone else here. Leave, you have no marriage and wasting time with someone who has no respect and little care for you or your feelings is wasted time having a life that's enjoyable.

Your toddler will one day be an adult and will have ideas about how a loving relationship should be based on what they saw/heard/knew growing up.

You owe it to yourself and your child to enjoy a happy relationship with mutual respect and love.

Don't sell yourself short, the grass is in this case very much greener on the other side

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notonthebandwagon · 06/05/2016 19:50

If you were both happy with an open marriage then I'd say 'whatever floats your boat'

The problem is he's very happy to dip his pen in whichever ink pot he fancies but you are not and a decent man would respect that.

You need to tell him this isn't ok with you - and then you may both need to sit down and re-evaluate your relationship.

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Kirsty67 · 06/05/2016 20:16

When you say social networks what sort of sites do you mean?...Dating sites?..porn?..What?
You're a married mum with a toddler doing the best (by the sounds of it) to juggle parenting, marriage and other issues usual in alot of relationships..
If you agree to this disgraceful suggestion believe you me, then you have either just ended your marriage or agreed to accept him doing this for the rest of your life.
What an absolute Knob he is!

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Kirsty67 · 06/05/2016 20:19

No....You have not fucked up btw. Dont beat yourself up..You are with a man who has no respect for you or your child...He has knocked your self confidance but you will get it back...

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LaPharisienne · 06/05/2016 20:40

I think think really carefully about how you feel about it and then talk to your husband and be as honest as possible. He clearly feels like he can talk to you, which is cool, but if him sleeping with someone else would upset you, you need to tell him and be really clear you don't want him to do it. Doubt it would be the end of the conversation but you could then work out how to proceed together. There may be alternatives, like bringing her into your shared fantasies? Dunno. But him sleeping with another woman when you're not comfortable with it sounds like a recipe for heartbreak.

Not sure from what you said he has really heard you...

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CloudedPensive · 06/05/2016 21:43

I do keep thinking about how I used to be and where I thought I would end up. This isn't the life I thought I'd have. I have no job, no friends, just DH(due to quite severe PND-I had to quit and pushed people away). I'm trying to change that though, I've been reading threads on here for the past year and doing what people suggest about going out etc. It's working Smile
I think part of why he looks at other women is because I put on a lot of weight with the PND (15stoneConfused) so my body is not very appealing. I feel guilty because of it, he didn't marry be like this, it's not fair on him.

The app is just a social chat app, I have it too, it's nothing about sex or anything like that.

We both have the same religion,..though different approaches to it I suppose.

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CloudedPensive · 06/05/2016 21:45

If this was anyone else writing this then I would say LTB, but I just can't. But I don't want to have a marriage like this. I'm pathetic.

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BoatyMcBoat · 06/05/2016 22:21

No! No no no no no! You are NOT pathetic.

You have carried a baby, nurturing and nourishing it for 9 months (exhausting, physically and emotionally); you have given birth, going through labour which is called 'labour' because that's exactly what it is; you have had PND; you have been isolated for a long time; your dh has treated you, and is treating you, with little respect, if any at all; your body has changed, your life has changed, your hormones have been dancing endless jigs; you have had an incredibly difficult time for a long time.

Despite all of that you have tried to change it. You have been trying to get out,mdo things, make new friends.

What about any of that makes you pathetic? Absolutely none of it.

You are a very strong, brave woman. You are a phenomenon! Your dh is the lucky one, lucky that you give him a glance.

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CloudedPensive · 06/05/2016 22:55

I know but it's a hell of alot of weight that I put on, ..he stopped fancying me and I didn't do anything about it for a long time. It must have been tough.
This last year I have lost quite a bit of weight, about 9 and a half stone, and things seemed to be getting better but now this.
He has promised that it anything does happen then our child won't know and he says our unit won't be affected. I don't know how that can be though? I mean, he will be spending time with other women when he could be spending it with us won't he?Confused. But I don't want to break us up. Either way it just seems shit.

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BoatyMcBoat · 07/05/2016 00:15

Wow! In amongst all the things you have to do, with all this shit going on, you've also managed to lose a huge amount of weight! You are actually Superwoman, aren't you? Grin

So, if he put on a huge amount of weight due to an enormous upheavel which affected every single part of his life, it would be entirely reasonable for you to go off him, and start chatting up men on the internet? Of course, yes, I see that.

No, I jolly well don't.

You are worth sooooo much more than this, and so is your baby.

You're right, if he's thinking about the other woman, chatting to the other woman, then he's not thinking about or interacting with his family. He is squandering his resources, physical, mental and emotional, on a stranger. There is nothing good for your family in that.

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123itsme · 07/05/2016 07:10

If you are both religious can you not just remind him of the Ten Commandments, number 7 specifically!!
Work on your fitness together. Let him help you with getting back into shape and be a team again. If he's a good man in every other way hopefully he'll step up to the mark and you will get through this. Good luck and best wishes to you both!

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CloudedPensive · 07/05/2016 13:34

Thank you for the kind comments Boaty☺

I've mentioned such things before 123,..

Well I've decided I'm going to just concentrate on getting myself back together for the moment,..get a job, maybe go to collage etc..i need to get back to being me. I can live with this at the moment.

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Branleuse · 07/05/2016 14:49

i think thats a good plan. Work on your own self esteem and respecting yourself.


I dont think God would be impressed with him abusing and hurting you like this

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CloudedPensive · 07/05/2016 14:55

Thank you, you've all been a great help!

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LaPharisienne · 07/05/2016 14:59

I still think you try and talk to him so he understands how you feel and what you need from him - sounds like you have done a huge amount on your own and I don't think you would be unreasonable to ask him to help you.

He might not realise that the situation as it stands is temporary and you desperately want to get back to what you had before - that might be a more appealing prospect for him than another woman but he might not realise it IS going to happen!!!

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mummyto2monkeys · 09/05/2016 05:29

As a fellow Christian can I just say that if you condone this behaviour. If your husband ignores your wishes and you still choose to stay, you are opening your bedroom door and letting the enemy into your bed. What's more you are allowing your husband to consort with the enemy. That kind of darkness will seep into your whole lives. Affecting not just you but also your children.

The bible condones leaving a marriage when your husband has committed adultery. It also strongly disapproves of the cheating partner (and you know that is sugar coating the truth). If you really want to fight for your marriage, then you need to be very strong in refusing to condone his choosing to sin. Jesus said in Matthew

‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away; it is better for you to lose one of your members than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. [ 41 ] 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away; it is better for you to lose one of your members than for your whole body to go into hell. [ 42 ]

You are being manipulated and emotionally abused by your husband. I suggest that you seek support/ counselling from your pastor/ priest/ minister. You need to pray now more than ever. Have you ever watched the film War Room? I would strongly suggest that you do.

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BoatyMcBoat · 09/05/2016 08:26

I was brought up as a Catholic, in a very strongly Catholic family. 2 of my uncles are in that society thing for the Pope. Schools and church run by Jesuits, blah blah blah......

Anyway, I entirely concur with mummytomonkeys' post. Furthermore, he can't just pick and choose the bits of scripture he lives by, and drop Cmdmnt 7 because it's inconvenient to him.

I agree that counselling for you, to improve your self-esteem, but I would recommend a counsellor who is not part of your church, one who is completely separate.

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AmyAmoeba · 09/05/2016 17:30

Haven't read thread fully so apologies if this is off the point.
I wouldn't judge you for agreeing to an open marriage, accepting infidelity, holding any religious views etc but I am so concerned for you when you are saying and agreeing to something that hurts you so deeply.
It's your voicelessness that hurts me to read about.
It seems as if the real you is gagged (and slowly suffocating) while a facsimile of you is saying what he wants to hear.

Offering a hand to hold

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