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Work relationships. Am I crazy and how to make this right and move forward.

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Goandplay · 04/05/2016 17:44

I have started a new job in the last 6 weeks following extended leave after maternity due to PND. Started to feel better consistently around Christmas and decided I was ready to return to work.

Prior to having my youngest DC's I retrained for a different career whilst working for a job I knew I would really like.

This is my first role in this profession although it is office based and I am used to working in offices to the environment is familiar.

There is a woman at my work who I am not sure particularly likes me. Nothing obvious, just repeating what I say if I mispronounce a company name, not returning any tea's or coffees made, asking to speak to colleagues privately when there is no real need, making me feel left out of conversations by not including me or making eye contact. All this is fine as we worked in different areas of the building.

Our offices have been combined and she has been responsible for the moving of desks and new furniture ordered etc. I have arrive today at work and my desk is facing the corner, the other 2 people in the office, (her and another woman doing the same role as me) have their desks facing outwards and there is room for me to be outwards. I knew I would feel isolated even more as she is going to be working in the same office now and the men at my work are big practical jokers so I feel vulnerable with my back to the room when everyone else can see.

Boss arrives after I have settled down to work and comments a few times that it's not right having someone sitting facing a corner. Each time he is answered with a reason why, room in the office, fitting desks etc. The boss then came back and said again that someone can't sit in a corner - he won't have it, the girl says she wants to put up shelves above my desk for files as well. He says no again, she manages to distract him. The new desk arrived which is massive, I am looking at the desk thinking I could turn my desk round, it would work. Mention this and I am told to leave it as it is for now until the other director sees it.

Now embarrassingly I am unable to hold in the tears (there were tears first thing that morning but I went outside, everyone saw but I was outside, the 2 girls I work with asked what was wrong but were a bit blunt about it) but I am facing the wall so I am fighting it. Realising that today is going to be like this all day I spoke to my boss, said I was having a bad day and could I take annual leave. He said no problem at all and also mentioned the desk again and said to move it round, I said that I had said I wanted to and they had both said no. He said do it anyway (I wouldn't be able to move it on my own). He said let the other girl that does the same job as me know that I was going home and go home and come back when I feel better.

I said I was going home and this was met with the phone being picked up and her asking the boss if there was a problem. I don't know what it said but thinking about it now she gave a little laugh and said that she would need someone for the end of the week. I waited until she finished and explained it was for one day and I would be back tomorrow. She then says that it isn't personal that I am sat in the corner and it was the only way the office could work with an extra desk etc. I said (now crying again) I didn't feel as though it was personal, and that I knew me continuing in the role was dependant on us all getting along (was mentioned at the interview) and I like the job etc but felt that the other woman didn't like me. She was there and said what?! of course I do etc. I said this is why I felt I needed to go home because I was losing perspective on the situation and I really didn't want to get into the whole do you like me etc conversation. The boss appeared and changed the conversation to a work related issue and I left.

How do I move forward. I couldn't help crying, I can't stop :( once I feel that way.

I emailed about an hour later to the lady I work with and normally get on with about something work related and finished with saying I would definitely be in tomorrow but didn't receive a reply.

I am gutted - I love my job.

Thanks for listening.

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Goandplay · 18/05/2016 20:35

I refuse to leave a job that I live without the experience I need unless I have no choice.

I won't allow them to compromise my mental health. I know I can leave if I want to and that definitely helps.

I have found my feet now. It works in my favour that to an extent they are two faced because it means it can be pleasant and chatty still.

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Goandplay · 18/05/2016 20:36

Love not live

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freshprincess · 18/05/2016 20:42

So good to see your positive updates. Last week you were crying over the desk and look at you now. Go you!

1wokeuplikethis · 18/05/2016 21:29

Oh god.

I am on maternity leave at the moment and exactly this sort of office politics and one-upmanship and snidey put downs makes me shudder & never want to go back to work.

I think you are doing really well OP. And I agree that if you love the job you should stay and nothing should force you out. But, so far everything aside from the work itself (the part that you enjoy and want experience in) has consumed you. Rightly so by the way, because it's gobsmacking that these people can treat you like this and have no discipline. From an impartial viewpoint, the best thing you can do is knuckle down, ignore the comments and remarks just completely shut it right out and focus purely on the job. I think it will be tough but that's the only way you can ensure your mental health isn't compromised.

I had the exact same desk scenario occur in a room with 2 women upon starting a new job. I hated facing the wall & people coming through the office commented that it wasn't very nice for me but the one woman kept harping on about health & safety or some bollocks. After about 2 weeks, me and another colleague from upstairs just moved it so I was facing my colleagues and the window. We waited until this woman had left for the day. The next morning she couldn't hide her annoyance and was getting redder in th face all day each time soneone came through & commented how much better it was. The next day, she brought in an enormous fuck off plant, about 4ft tall & put it on her desk so that it was blocking my view of her. It didn't bother me; she was no bloody oil painting, it made me laugh to myself actually. To cut a long story short, she continued behaving in a very underhand manner towards me and eventually before I was relocated (not related to her) she came out and said I was not going to take her job from her. And she had been hiding work from me when it ought to have been shared out.

Bottom line; jealousy, fear, incompetence were all her problems. Not mine. Seems like this might be happening with you now. I did let it consume me because I would log every weird thing she did or said to me to tell me parents about when I got home (21 living at home) and it basically became a thing that one of the first things they would ask when I got home was 'what's Batty been up to today?'

Perhaps you can do a better job of ignoring it than I did, but this was my first ever office job and gave me a very sharp introduction to the weirdness of colleagues and office shite. It was a good lesson. I have never let anyone bully me again.

Keep going op & think only of yourself.

Goandplay · 18/05/2016 21:43

I said to my direct colleague when we were alone the day before that I was not there to take her job, I was happy for her to lead and my success should be hers and hers mine because we were a team and we shouldn't use another persons shoulders to rise up.

I'm speaking the truth as well. I don't want to manage anyone now or ever. I want to thrive in my role and continue to develop.

She seemed to be more helpful today and even encouraging so maybe just maybe a slow drip effect will make her relax.

My DP and close friend and sister ask everyday how it's going. It's now funny rather than upsetting. I have a counselling session tomorrow and I had one two weeks ago when I had such a strong reaction to the desk; I wanted to make sure I didn't start going backwards.

I find that in the difficult bits last week I was screen saving the advice on this thread and it was an enormous help to have advice and reassurance throughout the day if needed, even knowing I had a group of people on my side helped me.

The power of the Internet!

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DoreenLethal · 18/05/2016 21:52

I had one where I started a new job and one of the office workers had really really wanted that job and so was particularly mean to me when I started.

Two years later I got the main bosses job and was then her bosses boss.

Funny that. She still kept applying in a 'I want to be a yellowcoat' kind of way - and she was always completely hopeless at her own job let alone the one I had originally got that she was so desperate for.

We gave her a chance at doing it for a month once. She got herself into a pickle and lied to a client and had to issue a written apology. And still applied for the job and told us at interview how amazing she would be.

So just bide your time. You never know eh?

Peyia · 19/05/2016 14:48

Love that story Doreen! That the the ultimate you showed her, brilliant!

Goandplay

I just wanted to say well done, you've managed this incredibly well. I was following the thread when you were upset, didn't have anything to add as so many had showed support. I'm really pleased with your outcome! I do think the place sounds disorganised and unprofessional BUT aslong as you can stay in the job that you enjoy to build up your experience is all that matters.

hellsbellsmelons · 19/05/2016 15:01

Goandplay What a fantastic update.
You've really taken a lot on board and put it into practice.
You sound upbeat and positive and that's great to see.
Just read your first couple of threads and then your one - Wed 18-May-16 19:42:03.
That's a huge change and you've done it!
So pleased for you.

Goandplay · 26/05/2016 10:26

So...
I have handed my notice in. I am gutted. My eyes are swollen from crying but I think there was no option.
Yesterday the girl who does the same job as me hadn't completed a task she had supposed have done (this story may be becoming familiar) and our boss had been told by the other director that he had been waiting for this piece of work. Our boss came down (the business owner), I was covering the reception yesterday and the office is next to reception so I can hear what he is saying but not her. I then hear him say the following: 'No Fiona (not real name) its not on, it's not good enough. It's not your fault, we should have got someone who could hit the ground running, it's not your fault, no' He repeated this a few times and the walked off saying 'I will just get someone f##king else who can do it'
Then the other PA answer the phone about 5 minutes later and said yes I have read your email, I'll get on to it. She deals with the HR here.
So I went and asked him what was going on, he said he was advertising for a person with my job title.
I said where does that leave me? He said there. Where you are... I said there's no room for an extra person. He just sat looking at me.
I don't think I have any options left. ACAS had already said that they can terminate my contract no notice whenever they wanted to.

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Merd · 26/05/2016 10:32

Oh no FlowersFlowersFlowers

They're a bunch of dysfunctional arseholes and I think if you leave you will honestly look back and be glad you're not in the middle of this shit. But right now I know that won't help.

Hope someone will be along soon with good advice. For now, a big hug from me. Have a big cup of tea with some sugar and take care of yourself, it's a horrid place to be in.

Imbroglio · 26/05/2016 10:34

I don't get it. Is the girl who does the same job as you "Fiona"?

And they have said something about advertising a new job but said that it leaves you where you are?

Sorry if I'm missing something but I wouldn't necessarily assume you are going to be sacked - he could have been pacifying "Fiona" because he knew perfectly well she should have done the job and she's lied to him by saying it wasn't her fault and he's just has enough. maybe she's for the chop.

However, they do seem to be spectacularly bad at management.

Imbroglio · 26/05/2016 10:34

How have they responded to you handing in your notice?

hellsbellsmelons · 26/05/2016 10:38

She was obviously blaming you in some way.
Can you go to the boss and set the record straight?
That you were not asked and you will not be used as the scape goat for Fiona and her inability to prioritise and actually do work?
I think you need to leave anyway as they are seriously shit at anything and everything.
But I'd hold off for a while and just get job hunting.
Talk to HR and talk to the boss and explain your position.
You knew nothing about said task and were not asked to help and you will NOT be blamed for Fiona being shite!
Get in there and stand up for yourself.
You know you can do it now!
You've nothing to lose!

Goandplay · 26/05/2016 11:01

Fiona is the girl I work alongside.

I tried and they called her up and I said that I work from the moment I get in till I leave. That work must free her to do the work she keeps saying she's not done because I don't know how to do it.
She said that I'm old enough to stand on my two feet (I'm 36) so I said you're making no sense whatsoever. She stormed off for a cigarette. I think said where does that leave me to the boss. He said 'there'. I said what do you mean you're employing someone to do my job so where does that leave me? He said it doesn't. It leaves you there?!
When I said I'm leaving he just said ok.

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Imbroglio · 26/05/2016 11:25

It sounds like he doesn't have a clue how to manage people and no-one is taking the time to resolve the issue with "Fiona".

It's easy for us to say take a stand but it does sound utterly miserable.

LaContessaDiPlump · 26/05/2016 11:31

They all sound hopeless at communicating effectively op. You're better off out of it.

It sucks though, I'm sorry Thanks

Autumnchill · 26/05/2016 18:02

There are times when I wonder about the way the Company I work for works but this Company is absolutely unbelievable!!!

You are better off out of it, sounds like an absolute shambles and I don't think anyone going in there will be able to turn that situation around.

Good luck!

pocketsaviour · 26/05/2016 19:17

You have definitely done the right thing.

Leave this shower of idiots off your CV and put it behind you as an unpleasant but short-lived experience.

BlueFolly · 26/05/2016 19:19

How awful for you OP Flowers

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