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Curious to hear from people who have left marriages that weren't AWFUL but just unsatisfying

1001 replies

All0vertheplace · 15/03/2016 13:02

Have you made the tough choice to leave a marriage -- not because of abuse or an affair, but just because you were mismatched and things weren't working out.

If so, how was that decision, and how have your life and relationships been since?

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IronNeonClasp · 23/04/2016 20:24

It's been a tough week. We had the 'conversation' Tuesday I think. I posted after it. However. Lots and lots of possibly petty things have come up whilst in work and home. And today - bloody awful I have to be honest. My 'happy face' (anyone seen 'vanilla skies'?) was very hard to wear. Basically when we had our chat that lasted all of 5 minutes and ended in a hug last Tuesday.
I read a thread on the sex forum about not giving your partner 'stimulation' I felt awful that I hadn't been doing this so I gave him a BJ in the night. Next day - not mentioned. Not since. Fine but weird.
Tuesday's conversation went like - my M and F always said we should spilt up from the start; you have had issues for the last 12 years we have been together and basically "it's you".
Today he has completely done my head in - he has some kind of turrets and when emotionally unstable starts hollaring, singing, squeking, slapping stomach and making out he is REALLY FUCKING happy. He is not. I can assure you.
Today he has picked me up on my 'unhappy' (realist) continuous vibe' throughout the day. I was in a fine mood - but now I am not. I feel like I have to out on some kind of fucking happy face. I have tried to separate our time so he wanted chips earlier and I said I would take DC to park - all fucking stroppy that we wouldn't go 'together'. I just can't do everything together anymore. He is in my face. He's had three strops today.
Seriously, this sounds minimal but when you live in a two up two down its very intense. I am again having second thoughts.....

Hiddlesnake · 24/04/2016 10:02

Iron, that sounds so tough
Have some very unMN

Awoof · 25/04/2016 07:17

Oh iron
That sounds horrendous. Big hug off me too. How are you feeling today?

I told my dh that it was over on Friday.
Part of me feels really relieved. I had to be very very firm and very blunt. I thought he might actually have taken it in but he has done absolutely nothing. Hasn't told his mum or asked for any support off his brother etc.
Part of me feels sad for him and the other part still feels controlled. I'm going to give it until after work today and tell him he needs to think about where he wants to live, like me move out or him etc
I know it's still fresh for him but he has been genuinely acting like the most perfect dad/dh all weekend. He can't keep it up, I know he will get angry soon but. ..
Sorry that's a ramble

FlounderingWildly · 25/04/2016 07:38

Oh wow awoof and iron big hugs all around. It must be so much to take in even though you were the ones instigating it.

MaitlandGirl · 25/04/2016 07:48

I left my exh after 9 years of marriage - we had 3 children under 10.

It wasn't an awful marriage but neither of us were happy. I remember one day looking at him thinking "I really don't love you enough for this shit" (the shit being daily life).

I felt both of us deserved to be with someone we truly loved and were loved by.

I think we're both happy now, I know I am and he's remarried so hopefully he is. He's certainly very successful in his career and has the lifestyle he always wanted and I'm living in Australia enjoying every day.

He didn't see the kids after the first year though, so it's been 11 years since he saw them but that was his choice, not mine.

Awoof · 25/04/2016 07:58

:) thanks floundering I'm not enjoying hurting him one bit. I just need it to sink in for him.
He said something really odd during our break up discussion. He said he had been looking at flats etc on rightmove, after we had our initial make/break discussion back in January, to remind himself to be nice to me
That is fucked up right? Like he genuinely needed to remind himself that I could move out to a nice little place, if he didn't remember to treat me well.

FlounderingWildly · 25/04/2016 08:10

maitlandgirl your poor children! Just out of interest how did you get permission to take the dc to Australia? I'm in Europe and want to come home to the UK but currently waiting it out a bit for many reasons.
awoof yes that is fucked up. I look at rightmove to mentally get away and plan my next life. H is currently being nice though. Very confusing but we have no physical anything. I think I said before I stopped giving him a good night peck about a week ago to see what happens. We haven't actually physically touched each other since. And I mean nothing. Fucked up.

Awoof · 25/04/2016 08:39

Floundering - how do you feel about that?
I stopped about the same time and tbh I feel relieved. It is strange though

isthismylifenow · 25/04/2016 08:53

Hi everyone, I have been following this post but haven't yet posted. Thanks OP for starting this thread.

Dh and I separated in January. We decided in October last year to do it, but due to various reasons he didn't move out till Jan. Life at home wasn't horrendous, but it wasn't great. He had an affair some years back, and we thought we could move on from it... well I thought I had, but I now realize that I hadn't. At the time I just didn't have enough strength to actually deal with it, I ended up in hospital after I found out, and it was easier for me to brush it under the carpet, than actually face it and deal with it. Fast forward a few years, I got the speech of I love you but not in love with you, he said things weren't the same in relationship, we were more like friends than a couple etc etc. I still wasn't in the right mind space, and discussed trying again, try to spice things up, including sex life. Well I did, I always had the happy face on when he came home, bought some toys to use in the bedroom (which was thrown in my face eventually as then he came out the comment that I preferred them over the real thing), I was the only one who actually was making any effort in the relationship (imo).

So a year after 'trying again', I don't know what caused it, there was a minor issue, and it was the lightbulb moment. If I really had to say what the issue what you would be all wtf, she asked her dh to move out over that, but it wasn't just that, it was just the cherry on the top of everything else.

So its been 4 months. The dc (both teenagers) have taken it quite hard. Everyone around us is flabbergasted at the news and we were the 'perfect' couple in their eyes. No, we weren't, but I was a good actor.

So, although its been difficult and I still have bad days, I am finding myself after 20 years of marriage. I am going out with friends, this wouldn't happen before, we would just stay home and say no to invites, because dh didn't want to go, didn't like xyz who would be there that night etc. Then he would go to bed at 8pm so I would be sitting there thinking, wtf, I could have just gone on my own, but I never did. Now I am doing those things and actually, for the first time am enjoying weekends instead of dreading them.

But, nothing can be that straightforward that everything is going to turn out rosy and uncomplicated. I did post about something that happened last weekend. Although afterwards I found out the situation wasn't as l thought, I spent the night (very unexpectedly) with someone. And although nothing will happen again with the person, it was amazing and I realized what I have missed out on my whole adult life. It has been yet another corner that I have turned, and although that situation is difficult (I found out after that he is still married), I see what is out there for me, and sometime I will feel that way again with someone who I can connect with in the same way.

Ironically, whilst on this was going on in my head, dh has began implying that he wants to try again. He hasn't come right out and said it, but messages I have received, all point in that direction. He is sorry, misses me, misses the kids (which I know he does, but he does see them often), isn't eating well (perhaps because I am not cooking 3 course meals for him anymore), doesn't feel well all the time etc etc.

I know the question is going to come as to whether we try again. At this point, sitting here right now, I can most definitely say I am not wanting to. I don't feel great about it, but the big thing for me is that I can sit here, knowing that I have moved forward and am stronger, and for once in my while, able to say no! This is a biggie for me, I have ALWAYS put everyone else first, and I have been at the back of the queue behind everyone's else wants and needs all these years. I don't know if it is a stage, but at the moment, the only way I can describe myself, is emotionless. I don't know if that is right, or normal, but I have been though the crying, not talking to anyone and avoiding everyone, to this emotionless feeling. It makes me feel hard and that I have no pity. Dh was moaning about something, usually I would be suggesting he do this that or the other, to which I just replied, something direct and in fact quite rude which is not something I would normally do iyswim.

Wow, sorry this has really turned out long. Its been quite therapeutic for me to sit and type this all out today though, as it sort of puts things in perspective for me as well, just reading it back.

isthismylifenow · 25/04/2016 09:09

I know its not the done thing on MN, but to all of you going through some tough times, I wish you all the strength to move forward.

Flowers
MaitlandGirl · 25/04/2016 09:31

Floundering it was as simple as telling him I wanted to take the kids to Australia permanently and asking him for his written permission.

He saw his solicitor and sent me notarised permission within 24hrs. That was sad as it took me months to get him to return any paperwork related to the divorce.

All0vertheplace · 25/04/2016 10:01

Wow, some very inspiring stories coming out of this thread, not to mention some seemingly important conversations!

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FlounderingWildly · 25/04/2016 12:34

Awoof it feels odd. I don't miss it at all however I a aware its not normal. I had a long conversation with my mum today (who is an awesome listener :) ) and I think she had not realised quite how bad it has got. So I have spent an hour going through documents and photographing them to start my ducks off.
IsThisMyLifeNow I think I read your other post. I'm not surprised you feel emotionless. I would put it down to part of the grieving process for your relationship. You sound strong about not going back. You are not responsible for your husbands behaviour. And it does not sound like he is doing anything to actually earn any trust back from you.

needresolution · 25/04/2016 13:41

Grieving is a weird emotion and although I instigated the split, I swung from running back to him to buying a one way ticket away from it all. I do miss him and his family, I'm angered that they turned their back on me, I'm also angered that he didn't fight for me (expected me to go running back) but then I'm also glad he didn't. I've not once bad mouthed him to the kids or anyone else but I know he has about me. I have to accept he will never see that there was anything wrong in the relationship, but I know I did my hardest to make it work, it was only a matter of time before I made my mind up that I had had enough..
I'm now trying to find peace with myself and accept what has happened and grow into the person I think I should be instead of running around after someone who didn't appreciate it.

Isaintheshop · 25/04/2016 13:48

So much here is so resonant. I gave myself a year last year to either make things better, or do something about it. DH is EA/FA and I'd just had enough. Tried an open letter, suggested counselling, all knocked back at me but stuff seemed better for a while. All came to a head before christmas, I asked for divorce just after Xmas and we've been fighting since. Solicitor's ultimatum came out last week, and now DH wants to go to counselling after all. Its making me think - could we be happy? I think the best we'd end up with is a loveless flatmate marriage. I just don't want to try anymore and that feels terrible - but then I've had 4 months to start coming to terms with it being over, he has had his head in the sand. I'm going to have to have the chat but I'm not looking forward to it. Life would be easier if I thought it could be fixed - no divorce, no access, no out of hours childcare but fuck me I'd never be free.

isthismylifenow · 25/04/2016 14:16

Isaintheshop I am in the same situation as you....

I just don't want to try anymore and that feels terrible - but then I've had 4 months to start coming to terms with it being over, he has had his head in the sand. I'm going to have to have the chat but I'm not looking forward to it.

It doesn't really help matters that my neighbour, just today found out - yes that is how quiet I have kept things, even my neighbour didn't know. (in fact I just got in so still quite shocked about the discussion) She started saying things along the lines that I should go to her church, and that I should remember the vows I took and that things are never easy but must be worked on etc etc. Now I am not knocking anyone who has a strong faith, and believes that by me going to church is going to solve all my problems, make my husband love me again and make me feel less heartless... but she has no idea of what I have dealt with in the past few years. In fact it is now making me feel even more upset......

I can feel the 'everyone just leave me alone' phase coming on again.... Sad

needresolution · 25/04/2016 14:22

It is horrible when you have come to the conclusion you want out.

The day I put the FMH up for sale was on my birthday, we had only been there 18 mths, the neighbour came straight round asking if they had done something wrong - I didn't have the heart to say we were splitting up, it was a very emotional time.

TeatimeForTheSoul · 25/04/2016 14:28

De-lurking to offer you a hug isthismylifenow [hug]
While she was probably trying to help, the phrase FFS comes to mind (to her not you).

Fig678 · 25/04/2016 20:08

Place marking

PeppaIsMyHero · 25/04/2016 20:40

Isthismylifenow - your post has been inspirational. Good luck!

isthismylifenow · 26/04/2016 07:08

Thank you Teatime and Peppa

All0vertheplace · 26/04/2016 08:57

Isn't it great when people who worship a guy who said "Judge not, lest ye be judged" really live up to their beliefs? Oof. Sorry you had to endure that, isthismylifenow

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All0vertheplace · 26/04/2016 12:25

One thing I just caught myself doing which is definitely not helpful is having an idle skim through Guardian Soulmates and finding myself very drawn to several of the people who have posted profiles there. Just, the way they describe themselves ("That's it!") and who they are looking for ("That's me!") -- sort of like the emotional equivalent of browsing flats on Rightmove.

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Gingermum · 26/04/2016 13:24

Interesting thread. All0ver - while you are in the middle of it, thoughts swirling, worrying about what your family will say, the idea of ending the marriage or relationship is a bit like pulling up an oak tree by the roots - impossible, painful and with long lasting effects.

My ex was a very nice man. He also told me (often) how lucky I was that he still fancied me. He wasn't abusive, ,just a bit controlling. He hated it when I worked late at home - he would stand at the door sighing. He also had a real thing about status, but basically he was a nice man.

Now that we have been divorced for three years I can see him more clearly. He never does anything unless there's something in it for him - hardly ever sees his family ie his two brothers and three sisters because they're not 'important' people but he boasts about his celeb contacts all the time. Oddly enough when we were together he spent more time with his family because I would arrange for us to have them over. He complains that his family never remember his birthday - conveniently forgetting that he has never remembered theirs! He doesn't have to pretend to be interested in my work anymore which makes me realise he was never interested. He pays very little attention to his sons because they are both 'arty' like me - didn't bother to come to their exhibitions because it clashed with some big film party he had to go to.

He's a hollow man - well suited to the film industry. But I couldn't see it when I was married to him. So all you can do All0ver is Trust Your Instincts. You'll be able to see more clearly in retrospect.

All0vertheplace · 26/04/2016 13:52

Thanks Ginger -- interesting perspective. The oak tree analogy is a good one. That's how it feels when I even contemplate it. I wonder how things are going to look in retrospect for me.

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