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7 months in and struggling with new partners sons!!!

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dadaboutthehouse · 07/03/2016 13:36

hi all.....brand new member so please be gentle:-)

Im a dad to three junior school aged girls and my partner of seven months, has two boys aged 6 and 3......all the kids get on really well with each on the whole and my girls love my new partner, they also love their mums new partner too.....i share custody with my girls mum and I usually see them every day in some capacity.

My problem is predominantly with my GF's 6 year old old, although the lack of respect he shows has a trickle down effect on his younger brother. As time has gone on, I find him to be very disrespectful to both his mother and myself (.....im very big on respect and discipline, i know my girls arent angels, im aware of their flaws and i would be very quick to come down hard on them, if they were ever disrespectful to another adult in my presence)......i also find him to be very sly,calculating and whiny

The 6 year old is clearly her favourite and he is rarely held to account for anything he does, like deliberately hiding my car keys/cash cards when im over there and lets us look for hours before he is found to have been hiding them!!......he has peeled off massive pieces of wallpaper in my home and isnt punished for it, other than a quick telling off.......he is very quick to get his younger brother in trouble with fake crying after a squabble, yet gets away with it loads of times when he does the hitting......im convinced she sees all this but perhaps fears the knives are out for him so tries to play things down....my GF allows me to discipline both boys as i allow her the same with my girls, but i know from instances with members of the public, she hates anyone attempting to tell them off for anything, even when she knows they have needed it......where as i would totally accept a stranger or friends and family telling my kids off for misbehaving.

The oldest walks past the bathroom during the night, to use our en suite sometime 2 to 3 times a night and wakes us up with lights on and talking,often trying to get in with us afterwards and takes the hump when my GF says no (...which then often prompts him to start coughing in his bed for the next half hour, till my GF thinks he needs some asthma meds and starts worrying if he needs the doctors in the morning!!!!).......all attention seeking and purely because he hasnt had his own way.....the cough may continue all night, or come back in a few days......sometimes very voilently and she insists hes a sleep when he does it, but im not convinced!!

i have sleepily raised the point of how coughing fits always follow a no answer to getting in the bed, or a no answer to " can i play on the kindle? " at daft o'clock in the morning!....and my GF doesnt deny it, or admit it...i think she is embarrassed........these broken nights effect everyone the next day and along with the genuine wake ups during the night for sickness,bad dreams etc....take their toll the next day

Acting up at the table, back chat, moodyness etc are all common place and punishment is threatened by their mum often...but they both know really that it rarely happens, especially for the older boy........my GF works in childcare and is very strict with those kids, which seems to baffle me even more!!

she wont usually tell her boys off if we are in public because she doesnt want to embarrass them, but if its serious enough, you shouldnt allow kids that luxury surely??......she talks a lot about not wanting them to be fearful of her, but i think my girls arent fearful of me, they just have a healthy respect!!!......her eldest even tells her off for shouting at him after he has done something and she just kind of takes it!!

im sure its plain to see he's got under my skin, i'm annoyed with my self for this but cant seem to do much about it........very sorry about the length of this post, i could have filled it ten times over with more frustrations:-).......i love my GF and want this to work otherwise i would have called time on the relationship before now, just looking for some input please...thank you

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BlueEyesAndDarkChocolate · 07/03/2016 17:54

And - if I was out with friends and we bumped into our OH's, who were also out, I would probably say "Hello Boys". I would never think to say "Hello Men".

And surprisingly, we are all still alive

GooseberryRoolz · 07/03/2016 17:56

I think Jan means that the word 'girls' is so automatically applicable to a social gathering of adults that you'd have to go out of your way not to include it in your description Nicki.

Jan's being weird.

DharmaLlama · 07/03/2016 17:57

I would say 'I'm going out with my friends' or 'I'm meeting some women from work' or 'I'm going to a women's group' or whatever. It's really not that weird or tricky to use it.

Although I really don't like 'girls night out' or whatever, I don't find it offensive. I just don't use it. It's fine if someone wants to refer to themselves and their friends that way.

It's not OK for someone else to refer to a group of adult women they don't know as 'girls' though. Two different things.

quencher · 07/03/2016 17:57

The term girls is belittling to women. Assuming women have not grown past the mental capacity of an adolescent female. You would never here men being referred to as boys. When boys is used for men, it's always in a negative way. Someone who has not grown up yet. Men who haven't got an adult understanding of things. So, why belittle fellow women by saying girls on a night out?

TheWeeBabySeamus1 · 07/03/2016 17:59

A girl is a female child, a boy is a male child.

This is a forum for adults, mainly women, but also a fair few men as well. That is why "girls" is not appropriate.

NickiFury · 07/03/2016 17:59

I'm inclined to agree Gooseberry.

I wouldn't say "hello boys" or " hello men" either. I think I would just say "Hello".

quencher · 07/03/2016 18:00

Girls when referring to grown women. Its another sexist term that needs to dealt with and stopped.

TealLove · 07/03/2016 18:00

Your antipathy towards your gf's 6yo ds is most probably because your opinion of him as being "very sly,calculating and whiny" mirrors those undesirable qualities that are embodied in you. "

This

NewLife4Me · 07/03/2016 18:01

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Jan45 · 07/03/2016 18:05

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Dontcha just love copy and paste!

GooseberryRoolz · 07/03/2016 18:07

Is it very wrong that I'm trying to guess jan's (chronological) age?

quencher · 07/03/2016 18:08

Even young girls and boys don't say hello boys or girls. Am guessing the adults who use it are trying to hold on to their youth. Bad news, it won't make you younger.

Jan45 · 07/03/2016 18:11

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Jan45 · 07/03/2016 18:11

Quencher: oh really, and I'd guess school teachers don't say boys or girls either then lol.

GooseberryRoolz · 07/03/2016 18:12
Grin

That doesn't actually relate to anything does it *Jan? Just a random insult? Grin

TheWeeBabySeamus1 · 07/03/2016 18:12

Well you've proved everyone wrong with that witty response Jan Hmm

NickiFury · 07/03/2016 18:14

I'd be name changing with immediate effect if I was Jan

NewLife4Me · 07/03/2016 18:14

i can't believe that somebody is blending families after being together for 7 months.
talk about selfish.
Does everybody else think this is ok?
If me and dh had split up it would have been years before we moved in together, especially if any of the dc involved were experiencing problems during the night.
I wouldn't be moaning about lack of sleep as I'd be in my own bed, house, with own kids.
Come on OP, put the kids first.

BunnyTyler · 07/03/2016 18:14

When I read the words "hello girls!" or similar, I say it in my head in a 'what-ho' sort of accent, like Chummy from Call the Midwife.

Jan, are you Miranda Hart in real life?

cbigs · 07/03/2016 18:16

My oh would say boys night out or I'm meeting the boys later, and I would use girls night out etc. It's just how he words have changed as common usage dictates. It becomes prickly and hard work all this 'its belittling for women because' stuff... No one I know has ever said it in a belittling way so that's about how we choose to take it surely?
I'm in my 30's and it doesn't bother me at all I may feel differently if older I don't know.

Jan45 · 07/03/2016 18:20

Sometimes it's fun to get down to the same level as the boys and girls on here, don't flame me for trying to join in!

I wonder if dababout has got into that taxi yet.......

GooseberryRoolz · 07/03/2016 18:24

You wouldn't apply it to people you don't know (or had just met), though would you cbigs?

And you wouldn't express towering disbelief that some people don't say it?

Or would you?

PrivatePike · 07/03/2016 18:29

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cbigs · 07/03/2016 18:34

Erm... I'm thinking about that goose. I don't know to be honest. I say to the women at work 'morning girls' maybe not exclusively I might say 'morning ladies' or whatever . I might say ' can you boys help me out' if stopping to ask directions etc. It's just a colloquialism to me I think. But I was talking to my friend about people using 'love' which I never use. And how some people find it patronising some don't. So maybe it's one of those. I'm not easily offended really and try to take things as I feel they're intended . If someone calls me anything with a shitty tone I won't like it but otherwise it just does not say belittling to me at all. I just do not believe people have that in mind when it's used in my circles.

NerrSnerr · 07/03/2016 18:44

Interesting how the OP ignored the people suggesting they have blended the family too early.

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