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7 months in and struggling with new partners sons!!!

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dadaboutthehouse · 07/03/2016 13:36

hi all.....brand new member so please be gentle:-)

Im a dad to three junior school aged girls and my partner of seven months, has two boys aged 6 and 3......all the kids get on really well with each on the whole and my girls love my new partner, they also love their mums new partner too.....i share custody with my girls mum and I usually see them every day in some capacity.

My problem is predominantly with my GF's 6 year old old, although the lack of respect he shows has a trickle down effect on his younger brother. As time has gone on, I find him to be very disrespectful to both his mother and myself (.....im very big on respect and discipline, i know my girls arent angels, im aware of their flaws and i would be very quick to come down hard on them, if they were ever disrespectful to another adult in my presence)......i also find him to be very sly,calculating and whiny

The 6 year old is clearly her favourite and he is rarely held to account for anything he does, like deliberately hiding my car keys/cash cards when im over there and lets us look for hours before he is found to have been hiding them!!......he has peeled off massive pieces of wallpaper in my home and isnt punished for it, other than a quick telling off.......he is very quick to get his younger brother in trouble with fake crying after a squabble, yet gets away with it loads of times when he does the hitting......im convinced she sees all this but perhaps fears the knives are out for him so tries to play things down....my GF allows me to discipline both boys as i allow her the same with my girls, but i know from instances with members of the public, she hates anyone attempting to tell them off for anything, even when she knows they have needed it......where as i would totally accept a stranger or friends and family telling my kids off for misbehaving.

The oldest walks past the bathroom during the night, to use our en suite sometime 2 to 3 times a night and wakes us up with lights on and talking,often trying to get in with us afterwards and takes the hump when my GF says no (...which then often prompts him to start coughing in his bed for the next half hour, till my GF thinks he needs some asthma meds and starts worrying if he needs the doctors in the morning!!!!).......all attention seeking and purely because he hasnt had his own way.....the cough may continue all night, or come back in a few days......sometimes very voilently and she insists hes a sleep when he does it, but im not convinced!!

i have sleepily raised the point of how coughing fits always follow a no answer to getting in the bed, or a no answer to " can i play on the kindle? " at daft o'clock in the morning!....and my GF doesnt deny it, or admit it...i think she is embarrassed........these broken nights effect everyone the next day and along with the genuine wake ups during the night for sickness,bad dreams etc....take their toll the next day

Acting up at the table, back chat, moodyness etc are all common place and punishment is threatened by their mum often...but they both know really that it rarely happens, especially for the older boy........my GF works in childcare and is very strict with those kids, which seems to baffle me even more!!

she wont usually tell her boys off if we are in public because she doesnt want to embarrass them, but if its serious enough, you shouldnt allow kids that luxury surely??......she talks a lot about not wanting them to be fearful of her, but i think my girls arent fearful of me, they just have a healthy respect!!!......her eldest even tells her off for shouting at him after he has done something and she just kind of takes it!!

im sure its plain to see he's got under my skin, i'm annoyed with my self for this but cant seem to do much about it........very sorry about the length of this post, i could have filled it ten times over with more frustrations:-).......i love my GF and want this to work otherwise i would have called time on the relationship before now, just looking for some input please...thank you

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PrivatePike · 07/03/2016 16:47

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expatinscotland · 07/03/2016 16:47

My dad always uses that one, Nicki.

NickiFury · 07/03/2016 16:47

I don't think we are glossing over his bad behaviour to be honest, it's just that yours and the language you use to describe this child is much worse so that's where our attention is focused. And in addition much of what you describe is perfectly understandable in a child who has seen the massive changes he has.

BunnyTyler · 07/03/2016 16:48

You extrapolated 'being a twat for wanting children to behave correctly' from all the reasons listed which clearly explain why you're a twat?

Your comprehension skills need some work, too.

NickiFury · 07/03/2016 16:48

I will be using it myself wherever possible from here on in expat Wink

ApocalypseSlough · 07/03/2016 16:49

Tearing wallpaper is very bad.
Tearing wallpaper of the man who rightly or wrongly you feel has turned your world upside down when you're six is completely understandable.

dadaboutthehouse · 07/03/2016 16:51

...and apparently when someone invades your home space, sly,calculating,whiny and all forms of unfavourable behaviour suddenly become ok:-)

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Fuzz01 · 07/03/2016 16:51

It seems clear that your GF DS feels somewhat threathened by your presence. Little boys struggle with sharing mummy and those traits you described sound like he is acting out due to the circumstances. Firstly afew questions so i can try to best advise how long have his parents split? Does he has regular access to his DF? Are you the first DP since split? This is relevant to how DSS might be feeling.

I do think 7months staying over is maybe too son.

expatinscotland · 07/03/2016 16:51

'I will be using it myself wherever possible from here on in expat wink'

Do so! Also 'Tom, Dick and Harry'. As in 'Every Tom, Dick and Harry'. LOL. Dad's got form. Smile

LilacSpunkMonkey · 07/03/2016 16:53

Someone's on a windup then?

You really need to work on your use of full stops, OP. For a grown man with three children your punctuation is shocking.

NickiFury · 07/03/2016 16:57

Are you taking anything we are saying on board? Because you don't seem to be. You just seem to keep pushing your own negative perception and trying to get posters to agree that actually you're right and this kid is just a nasty, sly little sh*t. What did you want exactly? Advice on how to handle the situation, right? Well you're getting that, in spades.

dadaboutthehouse · 07/03/2016 16:57

ive also learned to be humble enough to accept gratefully, english and comprehension lessons from a poster using the word " twat " :-)

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TheWeeBabySeamus1 · 07/03/2016 16:57

You called a 6 year old sly, calculating and whiny. And then referred to adults ( both men and women ) as girls. I think thats what got peoples backs up.

If you don't like your GFs children then you shouldn't be with her, they come as a package ( as do you with your DCs ) and its not good for anyone if you dislike him this much. If your GF described your DC as you did with her son would you be happy about it?

LilacSpunkMonkey · 07/03/2016 16:59

Definitely goady.

dadaboutthehouse · 07/03/2016 17:02

i believe what im getting in spades is vitriol from jaded, narrow minded people who jump to way to many conclusions. Thats the bulk of what im getting, but thanks to everyone else for their time and respect........................................................................................................................................................... :-)

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goddessofsmallthings · 07/03/2016 17:02

ive had occasion to tell him off a few times, and then to listen to his unheartfelt appologies for vandalism

This little 6yo is to be congratulated on his cunning as, if the above statement is true, he's certainly got the measure of you and your desire not have "his mum feel like i have it in for him".

I'd have more respect for a man who sometimes helps himself "to the "collection tin at church" than one who pretends to like a child in order to sleep with its mother, and it's to be hoped that this little boy's dm recognises your insincerity before you cause him any more unhappiness.

NickiFury · 07/03/2016 17:03

How would YOU feel if someone you didn't like invaded your home space? Oh wait someone did and as you're an adult with a voice you started a thread on MN slagging that person off and asking for advice on how to get him and his mother to cooperate with YOUR view of how things should be because you feel frustrated and stressed by his presence. Unfortunately he doesn't have the language or emotional skills to deal with this unwanted situation so resorts to exhibiting challenging behaviours.

Actually I think you're just a GF now too. But I don't mind. The phrase "Johnny Come Lately" was worth half an hour of anyone's time.

AnyFucker · 07/03/2016 17:03

Welcome to MN

Will you be staying long ?

TheWeeBabySeamus1 · 07/03/2016 17:04

Just seen your last few posts... you're either just trying to wind everyone up or you're a really immature, man child.

TBH what I really wanted to say before was that its not your home and they're not your kids, so stop being a controlling nasty arse and realise that this situation is probably really unsettling for the poor boy and you should be looking for ways to make him feel secure - not being nasty and malicious about him.

But I was trying to be helpful and constructive. A courtesy you have not extended to your GFs son.

PosieReturningParker · 07/03/2016 17:04

You both should be putting your own children first and taking EVERYTHING about your union very slowly. I don't get why you expect kids just to accept this new relationship so fast.

BunnyTyler · 07/03/2016 17:05

Am unsure if in this case GF is girlfriend, or goady fucker.

Please can someone advise?

Many thanks.

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BunnyTyler · 07/03/2016 17:10

Thanks Nicki Grin

Jan45 · 07/03/2016 17:12

Lol at Anyfucker.

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