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DRY 11

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TeapotDictator · 04/03/2016 12:08

Time for a shiny new thread.

Old thread here

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MatronLittle · 09/03/2016 19:49

Lucy discovering there is a whole world of people in the same position as me is a huge comfort.

Jogging along peacefully tonight.

MatronLittle · 09/03/2016 19:50

Not that I would wish it on others! It's still a fucker of a place to be Wink

Lucy2610 · 09/03/2016 20:28

Matron as time goes by you will see it as the biggest gift I can assure you :) My favourite saying is 'sobriety delivers everything alcohol promised' Grin Says she on 900 days today Wink

MatronLittle · 09/03/2016 20:48

Lucy congratulations!!!!! What a number FlowersCakeChocolateStar

You derserve that gift.

Umpteen · 09/03/2016 21:01

Yes, dealing with life without the escape hatch is quite hard for me. I keep being in situations where I would have drunk, and now that I am not drinking I have to ride the situation out without the escape hatch. I don't crave the drink per se (because I know how that ends) but I notice that I want the escape.

It takes a lot of readjustment, this sobriety business. My prop for the last twenty years is gone, and I feel like I am now having to reinvent myself. Mostly that feels very positive and rosy, but sometimes i really struggle. PAWS is an interesting explanation, thanks Lucy for your link.

Umpteen · 09/03/2016 21:02

Golly, x post, 900 days is magnificent!! Well done!

FuzzyWhiteLegs · 09/03/2016 21:05

900 days - fabulous Lucy congratulations!!

Lucy2610 · 09/03/2016 21:18

Thank you fellow sober warriors! :) I am feeling ever so slightly TSP (twatty sober polyanna) tonight as I sip my Pukka herbal tea & snarf chocolate Grin

TeapotDictator · 10/03/2016 06:28

Yay Lucy Grin I wish I felt more coherent... some great thoughts/conversation happening on the thread at the moment and I wish I was contributing more.

Matron a big turning point for me was exactly as you describe: the realisation that there was a huge number of people I could identify with who were in the same boat as me. The drifting and gradual shift from thinking that the kind of person who stopped drinking completely was somebody alien to me and my circumstances to accepting that I was precisely the kind of person who needed to do this, could do this, and in fact stood to be vastly happier if I did indeed stop drinking.

I like that Lucy - life without the escape hatch. As you know, I was in court on Tuesday and had yet another horrific day trying to deal with the rantings of my (mentally ill) STBXH. This time from nowhere he seemed to be trying to suggest I have committed a very serious criminal offence. We now have to (yet again) try to deal with this false allegation and hope that the final hearing which is due to take place in a month can take place, and that the divorce can just END already.

Afterwards I went for a drink with my legal team into the bar next door - heaving with solicitors and barristers fresh from court and the wine/champagne glasses clinking away loudly. It's is about the third time that we've been to this place afterwards, each time so fcking stressed from our day. Each time I am full of adrenaline, and exhaustion, so much so that my hands are shaking from it all. But at nearly 20 months in, I just KNOW (as Lucy* says) that alcohol isn't the answer. When my barrister asked why I had stopped drinking I told her that if I had a glass of wine with her, I would want four. "I'm so stressed, that's just the way I am..." I said. Both her and my solicitor had two glasses each and seemed perfectly content with that (leaving some in the glass! Shock) before we said our goodbyes.

I on the other hand would have been knocking back the first two really quickly, and then that little manipulative voice would have started up trying to wheedle them into staying longer etc etc. That kind of bar would be a nightmare for me - full of people decompressing from work and no doubt full of some messy people come 9 o'clock. I grimace slightly to think what I would have been like in the past - if the lawyers had insisted on leaving I would probably have phoned around friends and got someone to come and meet me there, talking about the fact it was full of lawyers ho ho ho wink wink Hmm and would then have had a couple of bottles with friends (and the rest), behaving embarrassingly with people at the bar and saying god knows what thinking I was oh so hilair before fuzzily getting a cab home and being an embarrassing wreck in front of my mum who'd been looking after the DC for me all day. And all of it would have been written off by the "if YOU'D had the day I'VE just had!!!" justification, and yes, everyone would have felt sorry for me and told me it was okay, because I'd been in court and wasn't it awful and poor me, etc etc etc.

Instead, I just came home, saw my kids before they went to bed, and went to bed early myself for a good night's sleep to recover from the day. Proper recovery from stress. I too love the "sobriety delivers everything alcohol promised" saying.

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Lucy2610 · 10/03/2016 07:38

Big hug Teapot {{}} Flowers They will be seeing that he is unstable and making this whole process more difficult (and you know this already from the decisions already made by the judge) however that does not remove the huge amount of stress you are under in the process :( Be extra kind to you today xx

Lucy2610 · 10/03/2016 07:40

PS I would have been EXACTLY the same as you in the bar - in fact your description of the potential unfolding situation could have been written by me!! Playing the tape forward is such a powerful tool ....

jojomo · 10/03/2016 10:37

Morning all, I am in admiration of your strength teapot in a very stressful situation, Flowers for you

matron good luck with the business dinner tonight, stay strong, you can do it!

I had a lovely time at bellydancing last night, a nice group of ladies and an instructor who was very beautiful and very bendy...my hips do not resemble hers shall we say!! Less chocolate methinks and I have just ordered myself some more flattering gym gear as my sober treat this week.

Wishing everyone a peaceful day! I'm off to the flipping dentist as am still in pain...

MatronLittle · 10/03/2016 15:50

Teapot you are amazing. Your roll forward is me too (this is beginning to feel like I am Sparticus!). Except I always have a bit of physical at the end of my nights be it sex/fight/dance.

I am so wired for a drink tonight it's a deep ache. I've text DH and he is not stopping me keeps saying neutral kind stuff such as 'don't beat yourself up with indecision you will know what you want to do' and 'I love you and everything will be fine' the bastard.

That's the thing, nobody else can do this for me no matter how much they care about me.

jojo thanks for the best wishes. I feel more worried about letting you down by giving you a slither of an excuse to drink because people around you are failing than I am about the drink drunk repent repeat Sad

jojomo · 10/03/2016 16:04

nobody else can do this for me

Exactly matron...force yourself to remember the awfulness of the worst bits of the drink, drunk cycle and how much you don't want to go there again. Think about lovely hangover free mornings and no regrets or shame.

I would bloody love some wine today as a pain killer more than anything (!). Dentist said current pain is sensitive teeth leading me to clench my jaw which then goes into spasms. But I can't take the pain of a hangover on top of this so I will be sticking to ibuprofen!! So don't worry about letting me down, focus on keeping yourself up and positive and a wine-free zone with some sober treats to look forward to. You really deserve some!!

donajimena · 10/03/2016 16:22

teapot what a shitty old time you are having. Flowers

AbsoluteBeginner · 10/03/2016 18:08

Hi everyone I'm still here, still lurking, Day 73. I've impressed myself but the novelty has definitely worn off now and I'm sad about the 'never again' aspects. On the plus side half a stone has dropped off since Christmas and today I'm wearing a dress that I didn't manage to fit into for the whole of 2015. Thank God for you lot or I would not have survived the first week. Planning some beauty treats to reward myself between here and day 100. Am thinking Keihls face cream and Molton Brown shower gel. Happy sober Thursdays all. 😬

Lucy2610 · 10/03/2016 19:09

Good luck matron Stay strong!
Congrats on 73 days Absolute!! Your treats sound lovely :)

TeapotDictator · 10/03/2016 19:46

Ahh thanks everyone. Matron, I don't feel amazing at all, but thank you for saying so. I remember when I was in the first few days of stopping chatting to a few people on Soberistas who had 4 months sobriety, and thinking they were unutterably wise and accomplished at it Grin

Absolute - I definitely had times like that after feeling as though the novelty had worn off. I also had a couple of memorable "I'm being treated differently by certain friends" moments and it made me suddenly feel like a right boring old bastard which made me question the decision to keep it long term. Keep at it, those moments do pass.

jojo feel for you re. needing something as painkiller. Stay strong!

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MatronLittle · 10/03/2016 20:15

Teapot you are amazing to me. I took your roll forward and held on to it.

jojo and Lucy I stayed strong and I am on my way home sober. I feel elated.

I must pay proper attention to the importance of treats and get some lined up.

Lucy2610 · 10/03/2016 20:32

Well done matron Star Treat pit stop on way home? Wink Grin

jojomo · 10/03/2016 20:54

Grin I knew you could do it matron!

Get all treated up over the next few days, it does really help having something nice to look forward to even it's only small things.

Am planning some fresh flowers, magazines and minty chocolates as a minimum to help get through this weekend (and any medium temperature food that doesn't require chewing, ouch!)

Enjoy the rest of your sober evening and appreciate the crystal clear morning!

TeapotDictator · 10/03/2016 21:16

Yes yes to the treats! When I was drinking if someone had suggested that a few smellies, new shoes, new pyjamas or bedlinen could be a substitute for booze I would have thought they were utterly mental. But it really does work.

Who knew that 'treating yourself' would work better if the treat was something that actually was good for you and added to your life, rather than the "ooh I deserve to have a drink!" kind of treat which made you do things you regret and feel like shite in the morning? Grin

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MatronLittle · 10/03/2016 21:31

jojo tooth ache is up there with earache and back ache, Not fun. Flowers

Teapot congratulations on your 73 Grin

Bed linen is a good treat I need to step away from the sweet treats.

SlimCheesy · 11/03/2016 06:39

morning everyone - The Real SlimCheesy Grin here. sorry not been on MN much ... project deadline.

Thanks teapot . I hope your divorce is soon settled... what stress. xxx
Thanks jojo - hope toothache is better.

I echo everyone ... treats treats treats. :)

MatronLittle · 11/03/2016 10:14

Morning my thoughts this morning are if not now, when? As my sober day count accumulates I am beginning to feel protective of it. The number is so small and fragile but the effort to achieve it has been huge.

I found dry January a lot easier because it was a temporary break to allow me to get on with the important business of drinking for the rest of the year. Having no end is a difficult concept to grasp.

The weekend approaches. Have a good one Smile