Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Retroactive Jealousy Or Genuine Concerns - Male

136 replies

regulardudeguy · 03/03/2016 18:24

Hi all,

This is very unorthodox but I'm a male and after a female perspective on my current relationship. There's a lot going on so I will be as succinct as possible.

My gf and I have been together nearly a year now. When we first got together it was amazing for me, I'd never really had female attention and I got absolutely drawn in. My gf stated that she left her previous bf of three years because things got stale.

She also disclosed information of her previous relationships/sexual encounters very early on. I'm not that sexually experienced and she did actually say "nobody else I've been with didn't know what they were doing" which I'll be honest had knocked my confidence. Unfortunately, with social media being the way it is I was able to find out who the previous rendezvous were with and none of them are similar to me in any way shape or form.

Previous to entering into this relationship, although I did not have female company and I did miss this everything else was very good. I run a successful business, have a good group of friends, my health and am financially in a good position. I was also extremely enthusiastic about everything and was always excited about going to work. My gf shared these sentiments early on or at least I thought she did.

The next part I'm not at all proud of but by snooping I delved into her previous relationships and without being too specific it alarmed me. I need to work out if previous decisions made will affect future outcomes. Because she's done something before does it mean she will do it again?

Here are some examples:

Splits up with boyfriend of three years after one year. Within a month or so they get back together for another two years. Whilst on a break she has sex with a work colleague three times and does not mention it to her long term bf. To my knowledge he never found out. If this happened to me while I was on a break with someone then got back with them I would let them know what had happened. Three years with someone is a long time.

Goes on holiday, has a holiday romance. Returns to UK and dumps her boyfriend of three years for this guy she met on holiday but to my knowledge does not state she was unfaithful, blames the relationship going stale. Guy she met on holiday doesn't respond to her/promises to come and see her when he comes back to UK on holiday and does not. She contacts him regularly and sends suggestive pictures of her in her lingerie. She did this for me and said that she had never done anything like that before for anyone else, but she had.

Then starts speaking to someone from her workplace who lives over 100 miles away. Goes to see him with her friend (double dating). Ends up sleeping with him, never officially a couple. When challenged about the fact she was seeing guys with her mate and being asked if she was sleeping with someone else by her holiday romance she denies it stating that it is not true.

The only one I seem to share anything in common with is the ex of three years, it seems like he doted on her and was attentive/affectionate. Where she's been hurt she seems to want to go back for more or perversely it's an attractive attribute for her. I cannot be aloof/arrogant or play games, it isn't my style. I'm very genuine with people.

In a sexual context she hasn't given me oral sex and states she's never done it for anyone else. I'm not sure if I believe her at all. I know it's only one point but could be one of many couldn't it?

There's examples of dishonesty above. It makes me question if everything she says to me is actually true. Why is she attracted to me? Do people change? I've been with her for nearly a year and it is great on the whole but these things scare me, my gut instinct is there could be issues.

OP posts:
AyeAmarok · 04/03/2016 20:52

Wow. That is one creepy and disturbing OP.

springydaffs · 04/03/2016 21:26

massively invaded his GF's privacy in order to find evidence to back up his insecurity led fears that women who are sexually experienced and enjoy sex are faithless sluts...

Erm. Bit of a leap there offred.

Offred · 04/03/2016 21:32

But it isn't though.

Just look at the other threads where snooping is an issue. At the very least they are based on the worry they their partner is actually actively cheating. This snooping is based on what? That she doesn't want to give him a blow job and she is more experienced than him...

Hmm
AnyFucker · 04/03/2016 21:34

It's all there in the opening post. No leaping required. Not even a little shuffle.

Lanark2 · 04/03/2016 22:12

I think it's a set of information gathered via conversations isn't it? Its part of thinking 'is this serious, and what might I have to deal with if we get more serious', no?

I was going out with someone who confessed a past heroin addiction once. I wasn't snooping just because I knew this ffs. And it wasn't weird obsessive box ticking to ponder if I were willing to consider it a gamble, a trust gift to accept it, or something I should be seriously worried about.

Offred · 04/03/2016 22:32

Unfortunately, with social media being the way it is I was able to find out who the previous rendezvous were with

I'm not at all proud of but by snooping I delved into her previous relationships

In the OP's own words... He goes on to list what he found out, by snooping...A little bit different to just being a bit worried about something you were told hey?

Offred · 04/03/2016 22:34

Anyway aren't you the guy who posted about how unfair it is that you don't get women because they are all money grabbing and you don't think you have enough money because a series of unconnected employers are bullying you?

arsenaltilidie · 04/03/2016 22:37

You went through her old phone and read everything. Run for the hills away from this woman.
Your spidery senses are telling you something is not right.

springydaffs · 04/03/2016 22:41

Offred! Apart from it being poor form to post about previous threads, the previous employers thing is totally unconnected to the theme of this thread.

Please don't serve on a jury eh.

tingon · 04/03/2016 22:45

Well I don't know how Offred knows that, but the OP surely won't mind a bit of digging into his past surely.

AnyFucker · 04/03/2016 22:47

Fair's fair, eh ?

springydaffs · 04/03/2016 22:55

Not when it's to blacken someone's name, no.

AnyFucker · 04/03/2016 22:59

Op is making judgements about his gf. He has pigeonholed her as being a bad enough person to completely change his personality. She has ruined his life, apparently.

If that isn't "blackening" I am not sure what is

springydaffs · 04/03/2016 23:02

Goodness knows what lens you're looking at what he's written but that simply isn't there. You're adding 2+2 and getting 20.

springydaffs · 04/03/2016 23:27

Oh no. I do suspect we've been 'ad.

AF! What happened to your radar!

Lovehandles · 04/03/2016 23:33

Just cos OP is a bloke they've all got it in for him...
no wonder AF's posts got deleted

tingon · 04/03/2016 23:34

You got inside info springy ?

Offred · 05/03/2016 08:30

Lanark is. I didn't go through previous threads I remember lanark's thread

Offred · 05/03/2016 08:35

AF is reading the op's posts...

What he has said; snooped, investigated on Facebook to track down past lovers, reason - she doesn't want to give him a blow job, and what he hasn't said; basically that there is even the slightest indication in her current behaviour with him that would give him cause to suspect she is cheating on him.

In all his detailed snooping and identifying past lovers he hasn't uncovered anything recent.

He isn't interested in recent.

Having a gf has made him uncomfortable because he is insecure.

It doesn't surprise me that she made the moves on him either because he is insecure and wary of women.

Now to appease his insecurity he has gone through her entire past and found things to confirm his bias that women are not to be trusted...

Offred · 05/03/2016 08:40

I would have been sympathetic to his feeling of insecurity if he hadn't already decided to blame it on her and totally invade her privacy in order to paint her as a threat to him because that's really quite sexist.

His insecurity is his problem. Women are not dangerous, in fact, allowing his insecurity to draw him into this kind of behaviour makes him potentially dangerous to women IMO.

AyeAmarok · 05/03/2016 08:48

Agree with Offred

QuiteIrregular · 05/03/2016 08:57

Yikes! Have to agree with those saying that OP has an unpleasant seam of sexualised dislike for women. (And I know it's pedantic, but there's no such thing as misandry. Individual people might hate men - tho I haven't seen any evidence of it on this thread - but that doesn't add up to a structural system in which men are devalued and demeaned for being men.)

AnyFucker · 05/03/2016 11:01

I don't give a shit about radars. When I see misogyny I will call it.

TheGhostOfTroubledJoe · 05/03/2016 15:25

Earlier in the thread I objected to what I perceived to be a tone of misandry in some of the threads replies. It was pointed out to me that I was mistaken because although there was unpleasant criticism towards the OP nowhere was it explicitly stated that all men are like this. I went back and read the replies and sure enough this is true so fair enough.

However, nowhere in the OP's thread does he explicitly state that his view of his partner, worrying though it is, applies to all women. So why can we apply the term misogyny to the OP but we can excuse the replies?

Offred · 05/03/2016 15:57

Because he hasn't formed his view based on his partner's behaviour towards him, he formed his view based on her being a sexually experienced woman and then he snooped into her private life to look for evidence to support that view.