would you date a shorter man?

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Sorry if been done before. Had a date last night with a guy I met on-line and when I got there he was a good few inches shorter than me. I had wedges on, though not huge ones and am 5'5''. It did put me off to be honest, and I feel awful for being so shallow as he was really nice, and good looking. I suspect he would still be shorter than me if I was wearing flats, help! Should I meet him again? Would you date a guy that's shorter than you?

And then they complain that women only want tall rich men.

Boo hoo!

It'sbetter

I didn't say it was an act, I said watching him on the tv he came across as very girly and flapped his hands about. Flicked his hair etc

He's come out as bi but he was obviously not a manly man on tv and it hasn't shocked anyone that he's actually gay

He seems like a lovely guy just not manly

George is also very good looking but because he is so girly I find that off putting

I'm meant that being straight was an act. He was never into ferne it was all a showmance.

Him being girly wasn't an act hats just how he is

Anyone could see he liked spending time with her but he was obviously more into men and getting his hair highlighted

Oh God yes, so many men I have encountered who have been so obsessed with telling me 'what women want' even to the extent of railroading anything I say about what I want (I don't want marriage, I don't want to live together, not looking for money or a stepdad for my kids, just want to date) and assuming I want what they have decided 'women want'. I've even been told that behaving as though I want what I actually want (low level commitment) I am just being manipulative and am actually trying to force them into a big commitment...

So many deeply insecure and angry men who are unable to relate to women as people on OLD too, just read the profiles on POF - so many listing all the things they hate about women whilst trying to get a date.

Anyway, a digression.

I don't think there's much difference between men and women in terms of superficiality but I do think more men than women are insecure about relationships.

I am 5'11", my husband is 5'5", neither of us has given it a second thought.

Personally I'm quite attracted to camp men, beta types, Alan partridgey guys...

People just find some things attractive/unattractive on a superficial level... That's humanity really. No better or worse to be superficially attracted to tall alpha men than superficially attracted to camp/beta men it's all just superficial attraction...

Sorry puts me right off!

I'm 5 foot 6 and like to wear heels, being with a shorter man makes me feel like a man in drag

I'm online dating at present and to be honest I rule out anyone why is under 5"10 minimum

Of course women are, generally speaking, more attracted to "manly" men, "manly" usually being defined as tall, assertive, well-built, alpha-males. There's been a lie peddled for the past twenty years that no, in fact women are looking for sensitive new age guys who are in touch with their feminine side and are not afraid to show their feelings, and as for height? Pah! Not an issue........what utter bollocks! You can't undo tens of thousands of years of evolution, people! Survival of the fittest.

Mumofmonsters I'd save the pity for women in abusive relationships. Why on earth feel sorry for a woman with a shorter man? You don't date them because you can't get the six footer. In my case I dated him because he was funny, kind, honest, devoted and a great shag.
As for reaching upwards, lets just say you can have fun with stairs and leave it at that.

No.
To add, i once met the best looking man i have ever seen, who wanted to take me out but i just couldnt go out with him as he was so short. I dont know why, but the shortness just really put me off.
i am married to a very tall man, i am not tall myself but like taller men.

So glad you are around to tell us women what we really want irishdad...

FWIW my first two LTR were with bisexual 'camp' men who were shorter than average, my third was with a totally geeky beta IT guy who was the same height and build as me (same shoulder width), and the current one, though he is 6'4" what attracts me to him is his scruffiness and his Alan partridge personality.

I can't think of anything more off putting to me personally than a 'well built' alpha Man. I generally like shorter weedy men with a sense of humour and a massive geekiness or campness about them.

On the contrary, Irishdad. Something which is evolving is changing, it's part of the definition of evolution. Darwin's theory set out to explain how one species changed into another. Debates post Darwin focused on the mechanism for change and whether it was gradual or via saltation.
Species survive if they can adapt to their environment. Compare the human environment now with that of 20,000 years ago and think about why mating preferences change. Because unless a species can change with its environment, possibly into another species, it will die out. Far from not being able to overturn evolution, evolution is often about overturning what went before. It's why we have birds, not dinosaurs.

For me, height symbols masculinity
Just like big boobs symbol femininity?

I always feel a bit sorry for a female with a shorter partner, they look so mismatched on photographs
That's so important in relationships

It's fine to have your own personal preferences, but feeling sorry for people who don't share your shallow opinions really isn't necessary.

So if a man is 5ft 10", he is masculine when next to a woman of 5ft 5", but somehow emasculated when next to a woman of 6ft 1"?
Not sure my DH would agree with that! He is very proud to be out with me and I am proud to be out with him.

Well as long as he is great in bed, I'm happy

I've dated guys who were slightly shorter than me in the past (I'm 5'11, they were 5'9 or 5'10). It wasn't a complete deal breaker for me. But I am generally more likely to be attracted to tall men. If I am honest, I dont think I could have ever dated a man who was much smaller than me. It would just feel very weird on a sexual/physical level, having a guy who was little.

DH is 6'1, though, and and I am still taller than him in heels...so I sort of did end up with a shorter man .

My sister is 5'10 and only - and I mean ONLY - dates men 6'2 or above. She wouldn't even look at a shorter man. She just says she finds them completely physically unattractive. Fair enough, I say. Its very hard to overcome that instinctive, physical attraction thing that happens in your gut.

I wouldn't date a shorter man. Or a man who was a lot slimmer than me. Or with a beard.

No.

I am 5ft 2 - and DH is 6ft 3.

Perfect.

Pure darwinism blonde!!

You can't help who you are attracted to, but it does sound like you fancy him, if so don't let social pressure put you off.

Have to laugh at a man coming on here to tell women who they fancy, and claiming women are shallow about looks. How often do you see a massive mismatch like Donald Trump and anyone, or Bernie Ecclestone and anyone between a woman and a man, where the woman is plainer? Approximately never.

Also bemused by the poster pitying tall women with shorter partners. So I'm tall (6ft) my DP is a little shorter, handsome, a great shag, a great dad and a good laugh. But I must be pitied because I can't snuggle into his armpit in a photo Maybe I should have stuck with the 6'1" guy I dated before him who was a secret coke addict.

Women are far less shallow than men obviously.

Women can overlook things.
men cant.
For them if a woman is fat or unattractive her humour or kind heart or confidence might be noticed but they WONT make her more sexually attractive.

Men just dont like it thatvthere are some things that personality cant win round.

But when does a fat ugly woman ever win over a handsome young fit man!!?

Never. So irishdad u must be aware even as u type that thatvit is nonsense.

Exactly tattie.

I'm not telling you what women want, 90% of the women posting here are telling you! Don't shoot the messenger!

As for Trump and Ecclestone having beautiful wives, we all know those women wouldn't give them the time of day if they weren't super-rich. How shallow is that?!

Yes, it is shallow. But how often do you see mismatched looks in ordinary couples where the man is younger and better looking? It isn't very unusual the other way round. I have a colleague, not rich, in his 50s, plain looking and overweight. His wife is 32, pretty and in great shape. I'm sure, genuinely, that they love each other. But I am also sure they would be together of she was 20 years older than him and 4 stones heavier.

But IrishDad79, you are saying that women are shallower which is the part that is obviously ridiculous.

Men are less self-aware. a fat man still feels entitled to a slim woman. An older man still feels entitled to a younger woman. Women are much more aware. They do a sub conscious stock check I think.

As for going out with rich older men, well, that's clearly a big mistake but it's just prostitution with a really good contract, so it's not relevant to a what do people choose / what are they drawn to conversation imo