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When Will This Horror Show End?

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PatButchersEarrings26 · 13/12/2015 22:59

Have NC'd for this, regular user, always very open with DH and occasionally show him threads on here. However, it would destroy him to read what I'm about to write.

I've read a lot on here about limerence, and infatuation, and a lot has been a little helpful. But I'm posting as much to just get this down because there is nobody in RL I can talk to and I think I am going slowly insane.

I'm a self-employed freelancer, but work loosely with other companies. A few months ago I started working with a new company, and have subsequently developed something that feels more than an intense crush on my main contact person. Obviously, I'm married, with a small child. Before I met him, I would have described myself as very, very happily married, secure, no money worries, both DH and I successful in our fields. Not smug marrieds (or at least I hope not) but frequently referred to amongst our circle as the happiest marriage around. I've had a challenging year professionally, but not what I would consider a tough year. I am wracking my brains to think of what circumstances might have given birth to this insanity, because you usually read - unhappy marriage, money woes, health issues, bla bla bla. I can claim none of these.

Sure, in nearly a decade of marriage, I've admired the odd attractive man and had the odd daydream for a minute or two (usually around ovulation!) but nothing that I would even term a crush.

However, this man has completely taken up residence in my head, my body, whatever and I cannot stop thinking about him. It's painful the way I feel when I stand next to him. Thankfully, I don't have to see him more than once a month. I am totally professional, and keep all correspondence to an absolute minimum and only ever work related. We don't socialise as such. However, he befriended me on FB, but not my DH (who is my business partner) which I found odd, and occasionally posts/messages me non work things. I never keep the conversation going more than is necessary. I am in a quandary over whether to delete him from our social media connections, but I think that would look very weird given that we have minimal interaction as it is.

He is divorced, and single. That's about all I know. I have restrained myself and don't look at his FB page at all. But any correspondence from him, no matter how brief or dry, literally makes me want to collapse with joy. I feel completely ridiculous just writing this.

I cannot sleep. I cannot eat. I have lost a stone in a month. I cannot think. I feel absolutely awful. I have not asked for this. But the way he looks at me makes me want to pass out. I don't think I've ever wanted another human being the way I want this man. It's not even as though he is the most gorgeous man on the planet (although he is handsome I suppose). I've even thought about divorcing my DH and starting over, even before telling this man how I feel. I feel like I'm cheating on my DH and I've never said a word outside of my head until now.

I just want to rewind 6 months and go back to how happy I was before. Some days I just want to run away but I adore my child so much I could never do anything stupid. The worst thing is that I know my DH is wonderful and a total catch and yet now I don't even know if i love him. It is literally killing me. Last night, this man came to an event I organised, but I never got a chance to see him because I was so insanely busy working and the disappointment I felt today has been overwhelming.

Sorry this is so long. I just need a hand to hold, someone who has been through this to tell me it will pass. I'm trying to do all the things I've read about in order to get over limerence. I keep reminding myself that I am a capable, sorted, forty something successful wife and mother and try to shut down thoughts of him, but they come unbidden into my head and will not leave.

If you have been through this, how long did it last? If you managed to get through it and not wreck your life, how did you do it?

But the big question in the back of my head at all times is: What if this man is meant to be in my life? Because it is so overwhelming.

Thank you so much if you read this. I just needed to get this out before my brain exploded.

OP posts:
Iamdobby63 · 12/03/2016 12:46

I once had a brief crush on a single Dad at the school gates, heart would flutter etc (that hadn't happened in a long, long time - just like being a teenager again. Lol). Anyway I also became friends with his ex (the Mum) and she described their relationship and how their marriage had broken down - he suddenly became a whole heap less attractive. Point being is that the reality rarely lives up to the fantasy.

Your reality is your marriage and that reality is being damaged due to a fantasy. Talk to your husband, not about this fantasy figure but about your marriage and how you feel something is lacking and how that is making you feel. A fantasy affair can be just as damaging to a relationship as a RL one because our fantasies have no boundaries and we can make them whatever we like regardless of what the reality is.

ladyjadie · 12/03/2016 20:50

giraffe have you unfollowed your limerant subject on FB? It means he'll stay on your friends list but you won't see anything he likes or posts on your newsfeed. Could save those little unhelpful heart skips (or sinks) while you're still looking for a new job. Smile

Giraffefire · 13/03/2016 09:13

ladyjadie Ive tried I just ended up stalking him.

I had a dream about him last night and woke up disappointed it wasnt real Sad

springydaffs · 13/03/2016 14:36

Flowers Giraffe

PatButchersEarrings26 · 15/03/2016 13:52

Thank you so much for your replies. As usual, gold, especially yours BadCheese. I took it onboard and was doing so well for the last few days. Felt I could turn the corner and move on.

Until today.

DH just informed out of the blue that OM is seriously ill (the c word.)
I put on my best oscar winning performance of detached concern, but inside I am in bits. This feels like a really really bad movie, and I have nobody in RL to talk to. I feel like the levels of ridiculous emotion have just been turned to 11. I know I'm mad but I can't seem to stem the intense emotion, and now it's mixed with fear and a sense of urgency. Again, all mad.

Oh fuck.

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Jollyphonics · 15/03/2016 15:42

What a nightmare.

Is he actually terminally ill?

PatButchersEarrings26 · 15/03/2016 16:31

I don't know Jolly. I (casually of course) asked DH about it, he didn't have too much extra info. DH suggested it might be nice if I dropped him a line - obviously I really really want to - but it's the last thing I ought to do. Does common courtesy trump limerence in this instance? When I take the limerence out of the equation, if it was someone for whom I had no feelings, I would have emailed already saying hello and is there anything I can do. I"m stumped.

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 15/03/2016 16:34

That was a sucker punch indeed, Pat. Where do you imagine going with this? I mean, you've already done the keep professional, no contact beyond bounds thing... and you're still keeping this man in your head and heart.

Have you run through the scenarios to yourself, quietly?

I've been where you are (without your last post) and it's the most disquieting life-interruption ever...

PatButchersEarrings26 · 15/03/2016 17:07

Honestly LyingWitch ? Yes, I have run through most of the scenarios. I even quietly expected this one, as I know he was ill in the past, he discreetly mentioned it during a meeting some time ago with another person working on our project, but I wasn't expecting this and, moreover, I wasn't expecting to feel such anguish over it. I want to be a decent human being in this; not contacting him feels heartless, but my feelings are of no use to him right now because then it makes it all about me and terribly selfish. Not to mention my emotional betrayal of DH. There is the completely lunatic part of me doing the 'Carpe Diem, tell him, tell him how you feel' thing, which is obviously mad and must be ignored. I know I feel bad because I can't remember the last time I opened a bottle of wine at 4 o'clock in the afternoon. Never, I think.

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 15/03/2016 17:14

Well, as you've (probably) correctly surmised, telling OM wouldn't do him any good, it may even put pressure on him that he doesn't need right now.

He also knows your husband; do you really want to bring both parties so close together whilst you're undecided about what you want?

Are you capable of keeping quiet about your feelings until this man is no longer in the picture (for whatever reason)?

Is there a part of you hoping to speak to OM, tell him how you feel and engage in an affair? Hoping that nobody would ever find out? I have a sneaky feeling that this is where your thoughts are somehow...

I really feel for you; this is a horrible situation and yes, you could avoid/re-divert your attentions where they should be but that is so easy to say and so difficult to do.

The question is... what do you ultimately want?

Jollyphonics · 15/03/2016 17:23

Personally I would email him. Not to tell him how you feel, but as you would if he was someone you'd worked with but didn't have these feelings about.

Remind me, is he married too?

PatButchersEarrings26 · 15/03/2016 17:30

Jolly he's divorced, and I don't think he's in a LTR. If I email, what should I say?
Lying what do I ultimately want? What anyone wants - to be happy, and without hurting anybody. I just look into the future, and see years and years of quiet desperation and no way out. I'm not about to tell this man how I feel, it's the last thing he needs, even if he reciprocates, and my DH and child don't deserve the disaster it would cause.
On the plus side, at least I don't have cancer. (My black humour is in full force today.)

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Jollyphonics · 15/03/2016 17:43

I would say whatever you would say if you didn't have these feelings about him. Supportive, sympathetic, polite, friendly. And I'll be honest, if he was terminally ill I would tell him how I felt, because I couldn't let him die without knowing. But obviously that's a long way off, if at all. I'm not saying that's right, but it's what I would do.

CommonBurdock · 15/03/2016 19:53

Hi OP. I've read some but not all of this thread and I wish to god I'd seen a thread like this 3 years ago. I've been in a v similar situation and have come out the other side without giving in to the infatuation but having separated and now awaiting divorce.
Loads of good advice on here.
This is basically a midlife crisis with bells on. I felt ashamed to admit to myself that's what it was but there we go, nobody's immune it seems. I was literally obsessed with "om" for nearly 2 years and at times it was literally unbearable. The sexual feelings were so overpowering I started googling symptoms. I thought I was losing my mind and I think for a time I nearly did. Anyway , what I wanted to say was, this all about what YOU want and need from your life and marriage, not about OM or even your DH. And it's not about being selfish. Your subconscious is telling you something, listen to it. Your crush is probably very similar to you in a certain way or has something you really admire or are lacking in your life/marriage. Focus on how to get more of that thing you are missing, not on your crush.
Really recommend Astrology and the Rising of Kundalini by Barbara Hand Clow. Also Women who Run with the Wolves by Claudia Pinkola Estes.
This also happened to Charlotte Bronte.
In my case my marriage was in intensive care even before I clapped eyes on the crush. There was no hope for it. Sounds like there is for yours. But remember this is not about him, it's about you. Put yourself first and ask yourself what you want from life, only then can you make the right decision for you and consequently for the rest of your family.

Aspensquiver · 15/03/2016 21:27

I have read through a lot of the threads quickly, I hope I have not missed the point. I and am very sorry OP that you are having to go through all this.

I have heard of similar feelings also when people get a romantic crush related to an old boyfriend. I agree with CommonBurdock. This is not about the OM. What you are seeing in him is something projected out of yourself, like Common said: something lacking in your life; or perhaps a fantasy persona you have imagined him as being which represents all that you hoped for once for yourself but is now unlikely to come about. Or you suppressed/ stifled some aspect of yourself till love and energy is pouring out from you and looking for an object.

If it came to it, and you gave up everything for him, the OM would almost certainly be a disappointment, as what your are longing for in him may not really exist: not if it actually comes from your fantasies. Do not tell your husband do not see a solicitor.

In my opinion you might be helped by seeing a marriage guidance councillor, on your own to help you work out what is going on.

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custardmountains2 · 16/03/2016 09:32

I haven't read all the thread in detail so apologies if I get it wrong - but can't you just tell him and not tell your husband - I am not a conventional thinker and (will get flamed for saying this.

springydaffs · 16/03/2016 10:29

I think it would be a disaster to contact him. Limerence is highly volatile - even something as tiny as a kind little email could well set the whole thing into a raging fire.

Though not such a tiny email is it if he has cancer. That's a massive emotional pit right there.

btw I've just finished chemo and fully expect to carry on living for a long time. Let's not jump to conclusions.

springydaffs · 16/03/2016 10:36

Sorry if I've forgotten but, as a pp said, you are having an EA (with bells on) - why aren't you telling your husband? As much as I sympathise with the seeringly hellish quality of limerence, you are actually in a committed relationship. What about your husband in all this.

ime of limerence I was single. Tell a lie, once I was hideously married - that relationship was doomed from the start so no wonder I was swinging about all over the place.

sonjadog · 16/03/2016 11:16

It would be a disaster to tell him how you feel. For one thing, your feelings are a fantasy. They are completely unbalanced. This is not love, this is an obsession. You don't know this man. Secondly, in your mind I guess you see yourself telling him, him declaring himself and it all being wonderful? Well, would you want to be with someone who is so intense in their feelings about you without even knowing you? I know I wouldn't. I'd run a mile. If you tell him, it will only be hugely embarassing.

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reallybadidea · 16/03/2016 12:50

I honestly think you should look into some sort of pharmaceutical treatment. Being unable to sleep, weight loss, having obsessive thoughts, feeling miserable sounds very much like ocd/depression. Personally I'd go to your GP. You don't need to go into all the details unless you want to, but I think you should seriously consider medication and/or counselling.

IrianofWay · 16/03/2016 15:56

Been there. Didn't do that. Nearly did.

My marriage wasn't the problem. My marriage was simply what any long-term relationship can become - mundane and repetitive. The answer was (and believe me it took a long time to get this - years after the crush had ended) to make MY life more exciting by doing things that I enjoyed. Your H can't make you happy - you have to do that - it's not fair to expect any one person to do that for you - even Golden Bollocks wouldn't be able to do that for long.

Life is full of joy but it is up to you to find it.