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When Will This Horror Show End?

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PatButchersEarrings26 · 13/12/2015 22:59

Have NC'd for this, regular user, always very open with DH and occasionally show him threads on here. However, it would destroy him to read what I'm about to write.

I've read a lot on here about limerence, and infatuation, and a lot has been a little helpful. But I'm posting as much to just get this down because there is nobody in RL I can talk to and I think I am going slowly insane.

I'm a self-employed freelancer, but work loosely with other companies. A few months ago I started working with a new company, and have subsequently developed something that feels more than an intense crush on my main contact person. Obviously, I'm married, with a small child. Before I met him, I would have described myself as very, very happily married, secure, no money worries, both DH and I successful in our fields. Not smug marrieds (or at least I hope not) but frequently referred to amongst our circle as the happiest marriage around. I've had a challenging year professionally, but not what I would consider a tough year. I am wracking my brains to think of what circumstances might have given birth to this insanity, because you usually read - unhappy marriage, money woes, health issues, bla bla bla. I can claim none of these.

Sure, in nearly a decade of marriage, I've admired the odd attractive man and had the odd daydream for a minute or two (usually around ovulation!) but nothing that I would even term a crush.

However, this man has completely taken up residence in my head, my body, whatever and I cannot stop thinking about him. It's painful the way I feel when I stand next to him. Thankfully, I don't have to see him more than once a month. I am totally professional, and keep all correspondence to an absolute minimum and only ever work related. We don't socialise as such. However, he befriended me on FB, but not my DH (who is my business partner) which I found odd, and occasionally posts/messages me non work things. I never keep the conversation going more than is necessary. I am in a quandary over whether to delete him from our social media connections, but I think that would look very weird given that we have minimal interaction as it is.

He is divorced, and single. That's about all I know. I have restrained myself and don't look at his FB page at all. But any correspondence from him, no matter how brief or dry, literally makes me want to collapse with joy. I feel completely ridiculous just writing this.

I cannot sleep. I cannot eat. I have lost a stone in a month. I cannot think. I feel absolutely awful. I have not asked for this. But the way he looks at me makes me want to pass out. I don't think I've ever wanted another human being the way I want this man. It's not even as though he is the most gorgeous man on the planet (although he is handsome I suppose). I've even thought about divorcing my DH and starting over, even before telling this man how I feel. I feel like I'm cheating on my DH and I've never said a word outside of my head until now.

I just want to rewind 6 months and go back to how happy I was before. Some days I just want to run away but I adore my child so much I could never do anything stupid. The worst thing is that I know my DH is wonderful and a total catch and yet now I don't even know if i love him. It is literally killing me. Last night, this man came to an event I organised, but I never got a chance to see him because I was so insanely busy working and the disappointment I felt today has been overwhelming.

Sorry this is so long. I just need a hand to hold, someone who has been through this to tell me it will pass. I'm trying to do all the things I've read about in order to get over limerence. I keep reminding myself that I am a capable, sorted, forty something successful wife and mother and try to shut down thoughts of him, but they come unbidden into my head and will not leave.

If you have been through this, how long did it last? If you managed to get through it and not wreck your life, how did you do it?

But the big question in the back of my head at all times is: What if this man is meant to be in my life? Because it is so overwhelming.

Thank you so much if you read this. I just needed to get this out before my brain exploded.

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Dipankrispaneven · 17/12/2015 14:34

You have to be a bit of an arsehole to start sending kind messages with loads of emoticons at 3 a.m. to a married woman.

regretsihaveafew · 17/12/2015 15:04

I think the object of your affections has definitely picked up on your interest and your feelings about him. The 3am message, and being on FB with you only shows he is playing with it.

If you can see that emoticons are not an adult way of communicating [I agree], then see him as 'baiting' you, playing with you and your peace of mind, you may see the other side of him gradually revealing itself. [A friend had this situation with a male married friend who loved the admiration and having his ego stroked. She has now been dumped in a cruel way as he now has another admirer].

So see it that he is playing with you, therefore he is being manipulative. He is a manipulator and he is most likely like that with others. It's part of his personality. Do you really want to fall for someone like this? I think you have more dignity than to have your life crushed by someone who, if you really knew them, is not a nice person.

In my situation I found out that the person involved was flirting and trying to get in between other married couples. What an idiot I was. Don't fall for it. Charisma is what many celebrities have, it doesn't mean that they are admirable people in reality. They tap into fantasy, and provide it for people who for some reason need fantasy in their life.

Life can be mundane but can be alleviated with some effort, but better than the catastrophic and awful loss of family, home, love and sanity.

JCLNE · 17/12/2015 19:45

Has your husband noticed that you've been struggling for months? Not sleeping, losing weight etc? What's his reaction to all this?

ineedhelpnow · 18/12/2015 10:31

I'm usually a lurker but I thought I would share my story too.
I know how you are feeling, it completely takes over your life. I feel at rock bottom. You say you are steadfast in not taking things further and I would say stay strong in this. Shamefully I didn't have the willpower and have been unfaithful to DH. My object of limerence is a guy at work, he is married with a DC, I also have a DC. I feel absolutely sick that I have not been strong enough to fight this. It makes me question everything in my marriage, if I could do this then how do I actually feel about my DH?
My day is spent continually deciding whether to leave DH or not and I can change my mind a million times a day. It is still going on with the OM. I absolutely know that we will never be together. My marriage is a classic case of too good to leave too bad to stay.
I wish I could go back and make different decisions, I wish I never got involved with the OM.
I'm sure I will get slated for my actions, I'm certainly not asking for sympathy from anyone, it's all my own stupid fault I am in this position. I just wanted to say that if I could go back and distance myself from him then I would.
Good luck!

BucketOfColdWater · 18/12/2015 12:20

Another one here in the same boat....
Infatuated with a colleague for a year- starting at last years (OMG, the shame) Christmas Party and then resurrecting the obsession again after this years. Trying to soak up all the advice on here, but head still stuck in the whirlpool of fantasy and seem unable to actual "feel" the reality of the shitstorm that would ensue if we carried on. Now i know he feels the same way, its less painful than the unrequited stuff but still sucks.
How to ditch the fantasy and connect to the (emotionally absent, always) husband and kids?

BucketOfColdWater · 18/12/2015 12:26

ineedhelpnow ...Thanks for sharing. Not judging you or trying to make you feel more shit- but it's really helpful to know that you think you should never have let it start/ continue. I'm in the "can forgive myself for being utterly smashed and slipping up once- but anything else is a conscious decision" arena.

ineedhelpnow · 18/12/2015 15:11

Bucket: the first slip up was when we were out together, lots of booze involved. He basically asked me out, I didn't know exactly what was going to happen because I stupidly thought 'we're both married, he can't possibly be asking me out on a date' having said that though I felt it still necessary to tell my DH that it was a 'work do' with other colleagues there, knowing full well it was the two of us. Surprisingly I didn't feel too guilty about our liaison because I thought it would never happen again, that was 4 months ago and I wish I could go back to that night and keep my resolve to stay faithful. My life would be the same as it was. Not blow your socks off exciting but comfortable enough and certainly a lot less painful.

LuluJakey1 · 18/12/2015 15:27

I remember there being a thrill to it, an excitement that was almost illicit. The looks and flirty emails - which never really amounted to much but could induce real excitement and heartache. I thought we would always be unfinished business if I didn't let something happen. He once said to me 'You are so like me- in lots of ways'. Perhaps that is what drew me to him- vanity! But now I can not imagine I ever thought that we would always be unfinished business. I saw him today - by chance- and did not even speak to him. I felt nothing other than 'Oh there is xxx' . I could not imagine I would ever have felt that way but I did.

I am sitting at home now, one year old DS is asleep. DH and I are sitting on the sofa with my feet on his lap and he's stroking my leg as he reads the paper on his ipad. We've got a mug of tea and a piece of chocolate caramel malteser cake each and I couldn't be happier. The thought that I could have thrown this away for nothing is terrifying.

It passes.

raisin3cookies · 18/12/2015 15:28

I have experienced something similar. I was an isolated SAHM at the time, and joined a Gilbert & Sullivan society. One of the blokes in the show was very friendly, attentive, flattering, etc. I wasn't unhappy with my marriage, but attention from someone outside my limited circle of friends/acquaintances was surprising and fed my ego. I let my emotions run too wild and I had to pull back by cutting off all contact. Eventually the feelings died down. I told my DH after the storm passed, and we were fine. My husband is likely more understanding than I would have been, tbh.

Cut off all contact. Don't let this destroy your life, for it will, if you keep feeding your feelings.

Arcadia · 18/12/2015 23:58

Really interesting to read this thread. I have developed a bit of an interest in one of the dad's at my daughter's school. It was triggered by a night out in the pub with some other parents last summer when I had thought nothing of him and maybe he made me laugh? I can't remember exactly what we were talking about that evening but it triggered something. He is opposite of my DP in so many ways but similar to me in some ways. Me and DP are very different. He seems to be happily married and no interest in me (other than friendly which he is generally). I have been feeling a bit dissatisfied with my relationship and he maybe highlights that? I am 41 and maybe having a midlife crisis! Feelings not as intense as described in here but definitely have a 'crush' similar to how I felt as a teenager. Can't avoid him due to school so hopefully won't develop!

TheBouquets · 19/12/2015 01:53

I, too, have had something along these same lines except that both of us were free agents. I could feel that I liked him but at the time that I first met him he was not free. Sometime later I found out that he was bereaved. The next time I met him he greeted me with a kiss on each cheek. Fairly normal greeting but not done before. I had been a free person for much longer but had never thought I would ever meet anyone that I could like after the one I had lost. I was scared and have kept a distance and not made any contact, I hurt like mad over the guilt feelings and also the fact that I may have lost out. It is too scary to look at another situation so I ran away but I still think. I don't know what his views were. Maybe best all round to let it drop. I am sad,

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TheBouquets · 20/12/2015 01:00

I think the problem is that we do not really know what the other party is thinking. I don't think anyone of the people posting here have actually discussed what this is crush, love, or setting the world alight and rushing off with a new love

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TheBouquets · 20/12/2015 13:12

Mermaid I am not sure that I understand what you mean. Were you the "target" of someone's infatuation?
In my case I was overcome by feelings that I did not want or anticipate. It is not just about having lost someone, I have operation scars that I do not want people to see therefore I have never entertained there being anyone in my life in the future.

TheSquashyHatofMrGnosspelius · 20/12/2015 17:36

OP I have been where you are and I agree with a PP in that if it goes on to the point of sheer stupidity, it may be a good idea to get to know OM better so that you can see him as a human being with flaws etc. rather than the object of your fantasy. I did that as I had to do something radical and it was like bursting a bubble and I realised that he was nothing at all like I had imagined and there were character traits that I would never been able to tolerate long term but....it did make me evaluate the relationship I was in with then DP and I had a good long look at it and left him fairly shortly after. It was a symptom of a problem for me, not a problem in it's own right. I was not married though so was able to walk away. I am glad I did though as I am now married and I can't imagine feeling like I did about anyone other than DH now tbh but...I know this thing creeps up. It is hell. I feel for you.

amarmai · 20/12/2015 19:12

i am thinking that pharma drugs e.g. sleeping pills , wd be a good idea as they might change the chemical imbalance that your brain appears to be suffering from. Since our society is so comfortable with medical prescriptions , this is worth a try. I am sure there are other drugs that wd be better but i am not au fait.

amarmai · 20/12/2015 19:15

just thought of drugs for epilepsy- which are now being prescribed for other conditions, and def work on brain activity.

PatButchersEarrings26 · 20/12/2015 21:06

TheSquashyHat I have pondered this. The two close friends I have confided in didn't have this problem - they both got to know their 'crushes' very well, and were under no illusions as to who they were. I don't have that luxury. So I have pieced together a fantasy person who, as you suggest, is probably nothing like that real person. In the past - when I was single - and had a crush (though nothing as intense as this) it was easy to get to know the person. In all cases, I ended up going out with these crushes but eventually ended those relationships wondering what on earth it was I saw in them in the first place. I keep telling myself that this is the likely reality should anything happen - but understanding something intellectually and actually knowing it through experience are totally different things, IYKWIM.

I've had an absolutely awful week, if truth be told. I am literally pining for this person - again, completely ridiculous - and DH has definitely noticed how withdrawn I am. I am making myself get up every day and make an effort, but I literally cannot concentrate. I just feel so utterly, utterly sad, and am questioning everything.

I think I needed to question a lot though. In some ways, I feel like my old self - the person before DH and kids - and that's kind of exhilarating. My DH is not very sociable, and I realise how much my circle of friends has contracted since we were together, and how I feel I have to ask 'permission' if I want to go out with them sometimes.

I think we are at odds with what we want in life. I asked him last night how he visualised his/our life in ten, fifteen years' time and he told me "well, we'd have more property, about £X million, a nice holiday house, another child, and we'd be retired." I know this is what most people aspire to, but he didn't mention being happy. Or in love. And when I said to him, "but if we don't end up with £Xmillion, you'd still be happy, right?" to which replied "Maybe, but I don't think I could be truly happy unless we're properly rich."

And I realised, that what I am burning for is to be just happy. To be in love, or at least to really really love someone and have that in return and to be able to talk to them, and share my feelings and not be told to pull myself together whenever I do feel low or unusually thoughtful. I feel like my DH looks through me a bit; as if I'm an acquisition of some kind.

And I suppose the biggest realisation of all, is that while DH and I had/have(?) chemistry - emotional and intellectual - and he is good looking, I never wanted to rip his clothes off or do any of the things I want to do with this man. (And have felt with previous boyfriends.) I feel dead at home, and alive when I see this man, or think about him for any length of time.

Maybe I just want to feel alive, and this man is reminding me of that. No more, no less.

Or maybe I'm meant to be with him.

OH GOD.

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TheBouquets · 20/12/2015 21:52

I don't think acquiring more property another child and £X Millions is a "love" ambition. I notice it was all about acquiring more of various things. If I was asked that question I would say that I would like to be happy, healthy, and not having to worry if a bill comes in or something breaks. I never thought about saying "alive" but that would now be in my list of wants for the future.

TheBouquets · 20/12/2015 21:53

By alive I mean "feeling alive" and not just drawing breath.

TheBouquets · 20/12/2015 22:07

By alive I mean "feeling alive" and not just drawing breath.

Destinysdaughter · 20/12/2015 22:25

I think you've hit the nail on the head, you want to feel 'alive' again. Sounds like you and your DH don't really want the same things out of life in the long run. The crush is just a symptom of this and showing you what's missing in your life. It's not really about him at all!

You can do things that may make you feel more alive or decide that your relationship is worth working on and if that doesn't work you may decide to leave him. This man is just a mirror for you, may help you to see him in that way.

ineedhelpnow · 20/12/2015 22:43

OP, I stumbled on this website: www.goasksuzie.com/
It's a website about overcoming infidelity, but there are perhaps some good articles which would relate to trying to get over this other man, regardless of what happens with you and your DH.
This morning I felt as though I was on the edge of a breakdown, but after reading quite a few of the articles this evening, I feel as though there may be light at the end of the tunnel with getting over OM. Although a long road it will be I'm sure!

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