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I can't seem to move on

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citybumpkin · 18/11/2015 17:51

It has been over 18 months since my DP left me and I still can't seem to move on. We had been together for 8 and a half years and he was the love of my life. Our relationship was far from perfect (who's is?). When we met (and throughout) he was a workaholic with little time for our relationship. Two years in, I wanted to marry/have kids with him but he refused. One day I just burst into tears and was comforted by a male colleague. I was lonely and feeling neglected and unfortunately we had several flirty conversations. Completely wrong and the ex found out (after hacking into my computer as I was seemingly behaving differently - I went on a night out with friends). We got over this or so I thought.

Fast forward several years, the relationship was going ok, not perfect, he was still working ridiculous hours and I was looking after our home, dogs, families. I did wonder over time about him working away so much and all the late nights but trusted him implicitly. He reached the age of 40 and had a week's worth of benders with friends - one of them being a night out with a female colleague. I thought nothing of this... Then in April last year he said he wanted he needed space. We talked and argued. He refused to attend Relate with me. I tried to be grown up, even though I was falling apart, and said he should leave. One week later, we met up and he said it was definitely over. I was heartbroken.

In the months that followed, I emailed/phoned/texted wanting answers and wanting him back. The abuse that was hurled at me was horrific - I still have visions of the words "slut slut slut" on my phone as he constantly texted/accused me. I discovered a few months after this that he had someone else. In fact the same someone else that he had enjoyed a birthday night out with. At that time she was married with a 4 year old and a 3 month old baby. They had both cheated on their respective exes.

Recently I have wondered what exactly happened. I know the OW had just moved house with her husband so i take it the husband was forced to move out and my ex moved in immediately. So many questions...including how can this be a good foundation for a relationship? Two cheaters. Apparently she was advising my ex on the relationship with me and then lo and behold she cheats on her husband?! Did the OW and her husband have a child to "fix" their relationship? Sorry but all of this is wrong. I find it all so hypocritical and contradictory. I don't feel hatred towards my ex or the OW, I would actually just like answers and for them to be completely honest with all around them, children included. I am sure as hell she didn't tell her husband that she cheated on him, just as my ex lied to me and referred to me as the slut.

I suppose I will never get answers and I will eternally be left feeling the bad party. Towards the end of our relationship I discovered that I was being overly maternal, domesticity had turned into nesting, and initiated fertility testing (I was 38 at the time). I wanted us to have a family. Now this is all lost. I feel that I wasted years on the relationship with him. That I now will not be able to have the family I desired all those years ago.

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citybumpkin · 02/01/2016 22:14

In February he was offering me the rest of his life but then a few months later he was leaving.

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citybumpkin · 02/01/2016 22:18

Yes, I understand people fall out of love. We had been together over 8 years so I thought it would've been worth the effort to attend counselling. He didn't want to. He went to Relate with his ex before me and they had only been together a year.

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TokenGinger · 02/01/2016 22:51

I've been following your post and it makes me sad to see you beating yourself up, blaming you. It's really not your fault. It's his. As you've just said, he wouldn't attend counselling. You were prepared to. His lack of effort is the problem here, not you x

citybumpkin · 03/01/2016 00:04

Well he has offered me the truth via one of his recent texts so perhaps I should request it. The texts have just opened up all my old feelings that were buried. I'm clutching onto negative thoughts such as he didn't attend my 30th birthday get together. We were 6 months into our relationship by that point. He said he was working. A few months after my birthday I found a ticket to a concert, dated the same date as my birthday. When I confronted him he told me he had gone to a Sugababes concert with one of his ex gfs.

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citybumpkin · 03/01/2016 20:34

Long email written. Not expecting a response but need some sort of closure once and for all.

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citybumpkin · 06/01/2016 09:17

Why is this still so hard to deal with?!

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citybumpkin · 18/01/2016 10:42

I've been to see my GP and now have a prescription for anti depressants. I don't really want to go this route but they may help? Also started counselling. I still cannot get thoughts of him out of my head. That I am a failure. That I will never be a mum.

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bb888 · 18/01/2016 10:47

I hope that the medication helps you feel better. You do sound like you are being very hard on yourself. Flowers

citybumpkin · 18/01/2016 11:46

I am very reluctant to take tablets. I've suffered from depression before. Whenever I was feeling low my ex would tell me to take tablets. I just can't stop thinking about him and his new happy life. Why wasn't I afforded the same as her? What is wrong with me?

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bb888 · 18/01/2016 11:52

You can't think like that. He obviously didn't think you were right for each other, but that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with you, just different needs and expectations.

citybumpkin · 18/01/2016 11:58

After nearly 9 years of being together? Why wasn't I given a chance - why didn't he come to counselling with me (he went with his ex before me)? I just feel used. I wanted a family with him. I wanted children. I'm 40 this year so theres no hope.

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sassymuffin · 18/01/2016 12:22

Please be kind to yourself. The decision to end your relationship was made by your ex and you should in no way blame yourself.
Yes your flirtation early in the relationship was wrong but your ex chose to forgive you and stayed with you for another 6 years, this was not the reason he left you. What he has done is use your indiscretion to try to absolve himself of his guilt when he left, that is why he sent the nasty messages to you 18 months ago.
He has met someone else and moved on, I understand this was and still is incredibly painful for you but you are only hurting yourself by going over and over this.
Even if you had the answers to these questions how would it help you? It would not change your current situation.
You have every right to be angry with your ex but holding on to this negativity is toxic and will harm only you in the end.
You are 39 and there is every hope that you may have children, lots of women have children in their 40's including my own mother.

MsMims · 18/01/2016 12:27

City r.e. your post at 11:58. It wasn't about giving you a chance, him wanting to be with someone else isn't necessarily a reflection on you at all. People can be fickle and sometimes meeting someone new who excites them is all it takes for them to leave their current partner.

I really think the only thing getting in the way of your future is this fixation with him. Nothing good can come of any further contact with him, it is only feeding the problem now. Block and delete his number and invest your free time in something (a hobby, volunteering) so you don't have spare time to be constantly mulling over the old relationship.

citybumpkin · 18/01/2016 12:56

I know I need to stop the thought process. Its been months now. There were times when I was unhappy in the relationship due to his long working hours, lack of responsibility. We argued once and he hit me but I forgave him. Perhaps I pushed him away despite trying to do everything right? I just feel guilty if thats the case. I could be a mother by now. My friends tell me I would probably be a single mum due to his behaviour but I like to think differently. The grass isnt always greener...

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citybumpkin · 18/01/2016 12:59

Maybe I was just unhappy with me and not him? I had done so much self work through the counselling he made me attend. I felt like a better, more self aware individual but perhaps I wasn't?!

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LobsterQuadrille · 18/01/2016 13:25

Hi OP

Maybe I was just unhappy with me and not him?

Yes, I think that's the truest thing - and I have read the whole thread. I can really relate to a) "wasting" eight years with someone, although we were married and he left when I was pregnant (planned); b) obsessing about what I'd done wrong and how things could be different and c) wanting him back all the time and degrading myself with messages and doing the "pick me" dance. I can't honestly say that I regret it, because that's how I felt at the time - but now I feel very differently and I am deeply relieved that we didn't get back together and that DD doesn't know him at all (his choice, I hasten to add) and that she'll never know what an awful representation of a relationship I had with her father.

The trouble is that people on here, people in RL, counsellors, etc can ALL tell you what you probably know to be true (advice being what we ask for when we know the answer but wish we didn't as someone once said) but it's only you who can decide when the time is right to say "enough". We don't always have answers and we have to accept that - it's a tough one, but that's the way it is. Even if he did give you answers, there's nothing to say that they'd be true.

Just on the family of your own issue - my best friend had an experience similar to yours and on her 40th birthday bought herself a subscription to a dating site. She's now 47 with a three year old.

You do have time. Look after yourself. Flowers

ThatsNotMyRabbit · 18/01/2016 13:36

Great post Lobster.

sassymuffin · 18/01/2016 13:44

A partner that hits you once is one time too many.
Try to stop placing the blame of the break up on yourself it will only fuel your current unhappiness and serves no purpose whatsoever.
He chose to leave and start a new life and I understand you feel as though your future 'happy ever after' was stolen from you but I think you may be putting him on a pedestal that he is definitely not worthy off.
Try to let go and wipe the slate clean, start a fresh new chapter.

citybumpkin · 18/01/2016 17:01

Thanks Lobster. Sorry to hear that your relationship didn't work out. Its really difficult. I just keep hearing his words as he was leaving "I love our little life" and in response to me asking would he come back - "never say never but for now, no". I know I'm wasting my time continually thinking about him but I just feel guilty for not doing enough, not missing or loving him enough. The perfect family gone. I had even started buying baby clothes for our future child. Makes me feel like a complete idiot.

I do have another partner but its not working out. He is polyamorous. I just keep seeing it as a legitimate form of cheating. Both my LTRs have resulted in them cheating on me. I cant go there again. But maybe its just me and I attract them?

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citybumpkin · 18/01/2016 17:04

Sassy, I'm trying to start again but failing. I've concentrated on work, started yoga, dancing classes, swimming, been out with friends more, spent time with family, done various courses, travelled, tried online dating and had several dates. But still I think of him, the what ifs.

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sassymuffin · 18/01/2016 17:40

You really sound as if you have been keeping busy which is a good thing.

It could be that you are not ready to date again while you feel this vulnerable. You said it is not working out with your current partner so maybe consider being single for a short time while you grieve and heal. Even if your partner wasn't polyamorous I doubt it would work out while you still feel like this over your ex no relationship would stand a chance under these circumstances.

You said at various times in your old relationship you were feeling lonely, neglected and that your ex spent little time on your relationship as he was a workaholic, that you altered your behaviour for him and that he hit you.

You deserve so much more Flowers

LobsterQuadrille · 18/01/2016 17:48

Thanks Rabbit!

Hi again city - yes, I do understand what you're saying but my ex H would dangle carrots like this all the time - for example "I'll never love anyone else the way I love you" .... hmmm, your idea of love isn't mine or most other people's, mate! In his case I firmly believe that it was to keep me in a state of limbo, wondering if he'd do me the supreme honour of deigning to be with me again - and I'm so cross that it took me such a long time to realise what a damned cheek this was, as if he was such a prize!! Incidentally my DD is 18 now so this was a long, long time ago (and in fact in a country far, far away) and I am genuinely glad that we didn't get back together, even though he begged and pleaded at one stage (when he could see that I was really and truthfully over him - par for the course, I'm afraid). It would be lovely to have a time machine so that we could project forward and see ourselves living happily in the future without the person who's currently causing us such angst - then we'd probably be able to understand that the "getting over him/her" is a painful journey but a worthwhile one.

I think it's important to accept that everything we do is a choice on our part. Maybe your choice to hanker after your ex and indeed your choice to have a relationship with someone who is polyamorous is actually protecting your heart, for now at least, against further heartbreak from someone else? Think of yourself as being attracted to people rather than you attracting people - it means that you are the one in control and it's your choice to make. maybe you're just not ready for another relationship at the moment - which may well be a very wise choice, even if you're making it subconsciously. You certainly sound as if you're doing masses of positive things with activities etc - you obviously have masses going for you and need to start believing it .....

citybumpkin · 18/01/2016 19:51

Thanks Lobster and Sassy. What you are saying makes sense. I'm just still really struggling. I doubt the ex will ever want me back. He is obviously happy with his new life. As he said, he has "different priorities" now. I nor the dogs nor his family ever seemed to be his priority. It was always his business that came first. I was the one supporting in the background. He moved in with OW after a few months, she has two young children (and is/was married), she left her job and now works for him. I on the other hand wasnt allowed to live with him until 5 yrs into our relationship, when I wanted kids he didnt (but did later on), he didnt want me to work with him... I just cant get my head around all that. I still love him. I feel like I messed up completely.

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citybumpkin · 18/01/2016 19:55

At the moment I'm reasonably happy being alone (current DP lives in Europe so we see each other once per month). I feel I haven't got time to sit back and wait as that clock is very much ticking. Before the ex left I initiated fertility testing (was 38 at the time) just to male sure all was ok. The accidental texting before xmas started the day I finally plucked up the courage to attend a fertility clinic. Bad timing...

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citybumpkin · 18/01/2016 22:49

I would take him back...

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