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New romance with boyfriend gone very wrong;-(( help please

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KatieMaddocks · 23/07/2015 16:59

Hi all,
Something I would like to share and get your help on, it was hard to write this out so please do not be unkind.
I met a guy online and our courtship and romance started off quite fast, he did all the planning, pursuing, courting and reaching out to me as well as calling, texting and making sure we have plans. we've been seeing each other for almost 3 months now, twice a week (Wednesday evening for a date in town) and on Saturday when we spend the whole day together and I stay over at his house.

We enjoy each other's company but have delved into conversations about children, family, marriage as I am 35 and had been married (no kids) before, he is 44, never married/no kids. I have voiced a desire to have a family soon with the right person, he said he wants the same. He has said he does not believe in marriage - parents divorced when he was 10 - and that he can have kids and 'then see if marriage can be on the cards'.

I am not entirely happy with it as it means he has 100% commitment from me and no recognition on paper/formally. He does say he loves me, he said it first and pursued me, but now calls less and rarely texts, also we met on Wednesday after a great weekend and he said that he was going on a finance course the next day and wanted us to finish early. I asked him if he wanted to meet at all, as he seemed distracted, a little aloof/cold and did not compliment me on my dress, looks - which he rarely does anyway, less to nothing now - and was not in a hugging/affectionate mood. I told him in a bar that I would love to see his affection and emotions and that I really like if we're tender with each other. He told me he has come out to meet only because I 'would give him grief if we didn't meet on Wednesday' and that I 'always pick an argument'.
I feel I cannot discuss the affection issue with him, he closes off and sees it as me nagging him. It felt like I was an old wife he got bored of and we're only dating 3 months!

Needless to say, I was upset, he saw me off home, did not get out of the car to say goodbye and walk me to my house. I invited him in, he declined. He wanted a kiss, I briefly kissed him and jumped out of his fancy car. He was angry I did not properly kiss him and I ended up saying why don't you come up for 5 mins? Big mistake. We ended up having sex which was mediocre (unlike before), he left and said 'cheers' on his way out....!!! Then returned realising it's wrong and just to almost tick the box said 'love ya'.

I feel like he has intimacy issues and does see me as wife/GF material but is not in love with me. He cannot say it to me face to face, plus if I bring up affection, hugs and kisses or calling during the week he gets angry and defensive. I do not know what to do and feel awful as it feels like he lost interest after hunting a beautiful girl down (he told me he was very proud a beautiful girl like me went out with him).

I feel broken hearted, upset and not loved/respected because of his recent treatment and how he talks to me on a daily basis (no compliments, cute words, no feelings.)

I played by the rules, did not pursue him, did never call him, rarely returned calls. What happened and is there a future here? Am I blind and need to move on if he does not appreciate me?

Another fact is that I am a high earner compared to him 9 years younger and have a really good job/lifestyle which he does not have to the same extent. Being a macho and a red-blooded male male, it does bother him I think. Nothing I can do about it, but thought it's important to point out. I love him the way he is, and my only criticism is absence of emotions/affection/hugs and compliments, as I am a fairly good looking girl who is used to swim in men's attention and adoration.

He does also routinely swear at waiters, people in cars and sometimes me - he has called me a 'dick' when I unbuttoned his shirt's top button, 'an arsehole', and told me 'not to behave like a bitch'. I find this really shocking as my mum and dad never speak like this, but he says it is okay and he is not meaning anything nasty by it.

What is your advice on this for the future? It was hard writing this and I really would like your point of view. I love him but not sure how/if this can work which fills me with fear and sadness.

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KatieMaddocks · 25/07/2015 20:55

What's LTB?

I got advice, used it and said thank you. What more do you expect from me? It's been day two post NC for me. I am singing off as this is too much negativity from some.

If you are in London and/or wish to be in touch, I would like that. Althought it's probably embarrassing.

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KatieMaddocks · 25/07/2015 20:56

Done. Thank you. Now my wallowing day might thankfully vome to an end.

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WhatALoadOfOldBollocks · 26/07/2015 08:40

"What's LTB?"

LTB = Leave The Bastard

KatieMaddocks · 26/07/2015 10:37

Good morning.
Well, no text or call from yesterday morning. Yes, it is not love, he has never cared!! Probably brought home some girl and is in bed with her now. What an utter scumbag! I don't doubt he is not unhappy or sad. Utter bastard!

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MiniTheMinx · 26/07/2015 12:03

Why are some people being so hideous and nasty? Far better to rise above it and give the benefit of doubt. We can't possibly ever know for sure if someone is 100% genuine, but we can as individuals act with kindness and integrity. So what if we are duped some times, I would rather act with generosity and be duped than live with the certain knowledge that at some point I will act cruelly towards someone genuine. Its a probability game! I will in all probability be duped. You nasty peeps with in all probability cast stones at the innocent.

KatieMaddocks · 26/07/2015 13:18

Listening to Meghan Trainor 'He's no good for you' this morning whilst cooking my fave breakfast….feeling bit better. For now.

This is the first weekend in ages that I am spending how I want. Minus the wallowing bit/crying at night. Don;'t even know why…parting with a dream in your head is hard.

Yesterday he wrote that he doesn't understand why we parted (hello??!! read texts above!!) and that 'when he said I love you he meant….'

Then silence. I think that if it were love, he'd have pursued it and tried to genuinely find out what's happened, bothering me. Even a few weeks ago,m when I told him about stuff that worries me. He ignored it all.

I know it is disproportionate, I am like this because I guess up until now there's been breakups and now I am 35 it bothers me a little. I do think London guys are in majority wan&ers interested in playing/driving an elegant number/sleeping around.

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KatieMaddocks · 26/07/2015 13:19

Thank you, I thought it was long term boyfriend or something;-) There're a lot of abbreviations on this site.

DH?? DS??

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KatieMaddocks · 26/07/2015 13:33

Yes, good quote;-)) I had to force it, so look what happened.

To Chillinmint, my wording is 'contrived', again not sure what this means. I am a foreigner who's lived here a long time, so whilst English is 99% perfect (modest, I knowP), I still make mistakes, have an accent which is barely noticeable and speak differently to a person born here. My phrases are longer, more difficult to understand and maybe more complicated than they need to be. That doesn't make me a fake poster!

I am nevertheless grateful for help I found here and advice from everyone who cared to post.

I have now made a list of all the BAD things/traits he embodies and will print it off on Monday. /it is long!!! He is definitely very forceful and manipulative, as I would have never tolerated half as much with someone else. I literally don't know how I did it! E.g. when he said 'arsehole' to me, I got up, put my sandals on and said I want to to go home (Sat night, he was on the couch). He stopped me in my tracks, undid my stroppy sandals which took him like 10 mins and said he's sorry, that it meant nothing and made me a cup of tea, hugged me…..this is why I stayed, sill I know. But he is an A-class bullshitter so I fell for it. Even at 35.

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WhatALoadOfOldBollocks · 26/07/2015 14:13

"I have now made a list of all the BAD things/traits he embodies and will print it off"
That's an excellent idea Katie. It helps focus the mind on why the relationship is no good, because when we are greiving for what might have been it's too easy to focus on the good parts, even if they were outweighed by the bad.

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KatieMaddocks · 26/07/2015 23:06

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KatieMaddocks · 26/07/2015 23:10

It is - if I may say so myself!! - perfectly en fleek;-)) Singing about her ex's intolerance to gay community, people in general.

P.S He never called. Guess it didn't take long to forget about me and his 'love'....

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spottybottycream · 27/07/2015 07:34

Its only been 3 months. Ditch him and move on. If its this bad now, think about how bad it will be in 3 years.

Goodbyemylove · 27/07/2015 08:38

Honestly Katie surely you can't be attached that much after three months? I think you are analysing it far too much.

Yes it hurts, we've all been there but there are women on here whose husbands have suddenly left them with three children for another woman. There are two similar threads that have appeared his morning. I think you should read those to get a bit of perspective.

Granville72 · 27/07/2015 09:34

Yes move on and get some perspective. You've finished it, he hasn't bothered pursuing it / you....................speaks volumes.

Yes it hurts, yes you're disappointed, pull yourself up and get some respect. It was only three months and a few dates.

dangerrabbit · 27/07/2015 09:58

Did you know him well before you got together? Is that why you are so upset about the end of a 3 month relationship?

sensiblesometimes · 27/07/2015 10:00

He is awful please leave him ..he wants to show you off like a trophy to his friends and family that's all...
He is not marriage material ...quit ...move on...quickly

SuperFlyHigh · 27/07/2015 10:15

danger - no they met online - internet dating.

I said I wouldn't come back but this song posting on here now is ridiculous and Goodbye nails it when she says other women on this board have far more valid worries with DH's having affairs/leaving them etc.

OP wallowed Saturday, Sunday and it appears today too despite well meaning posters telling her to move on.

if she's like this IRL and clingy and overdramatic etc then no wonder the boyfriend has run for the hills.

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KatieMaddocks · 27/07/2015 10:34

I am closing the thread now....Just because others have a worse life or have bigger problems does not make it better for me. And comments like above have made it worse.

Anyway, I am hiding this thread and hope to catch up with nice forum members in the near future...

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KatieMaddocks · 27/07/2015 10:40

And besides to move on and stop wallowing is not something that goes away in 2 days!!! Maybe for some cold hearted insensitive British women it does, not for me! And it is none of your business if I wallow or not, ok? It is within my right to do so. It is how my heart is engineered, I process emotions longer. God! Get a grip on your comments!!!

I hope you are in fabulous place yourself which is why you're probably on this thread.

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MyDogAteMyBelt · 27/07/2015 10:45

I am closing the thread now

See ya!

MyDogAteMyBelt · 27/07/2015 10:48

No one is 'overdramatic' and 'clingy', where do you get that from?

I can't imagine where people are getting that idea. Hmm

GrannyWW · 27/07/2015 11:34

Have to say you are a very entertaing read Katie ;)

MyDogAteMyBelt · 27/07/2015 11:52

Indeed, Granny Grin .

SuperFlyHigh · 27/07/2015 11:57

Katie my life is fine thank you! Grin

I don't post on a single parents part of this site Confused and the overdramatic-ness of your posts has been evident from the start and since posting your Megan Trainor song...

You do come across as clingy too... clinging onto some idiot insensitive British man who most of us would've ditched by date one... but ah you've hidden the thread. never mind.

have another Wine