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Step inside it's the Dating Thread 92!

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Whatsforsupper · 17/07/2015 13:39

I'm not one for songs Or starting threads I saw the last one was full.

I shall post The Rules shortly:)

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CainInThePunting · 12/12/2015 01:33

Hello.

I finally joined OLD and have a first date tomorrow (Sat) night!
This will be my first date in oooh a few years...

Actually, I was due to have a first date with another one last Tues but I text him on my way home from work to check the name of the pub and received the following
"Oops sorry forgot, can we make it another night got my mum round for tea x"

I 'forgot' to reply.

Tomorrow's date seems more promising, we've been messaging for a couple of weeks and he appears to be relatively normal.
I like the fact that he signs off every message with TTFN! Grin Love it!

I'm rusty. Hmm

WavingNotDrowning · 12/12/2015 06:13

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TooSassy · 12/12/2015 06:58

Morning all

whats for supper I didn't mean the original rules . That would be rude. I meant the ones posted from the other thread by just a boy. 26 of them.

TooSassy · 12/12/2015 07:16

Oops no idea what happened there.

Interesting points ladies, totally get your points.
The thing is that I'm not remotely ready to be looking for anything serious. So this is just a bit of curious fun. I take your points about not healthy changing yourself, totally agree.

This is more about trying to figure (some) men out. Because let's face it, the lovely non game playing ones also exist.

waving don't be annoyed! I would be in your shoes too. His reaction was off. I am sure he will be in touch. Yes don't contact him.

cain welcome! Ooooo. Date tonight! How exciting!

destinys sounds like you're seeing him. Let us know when you're meeting

justaboy absolutely about impressing from the bitch book. It goes both ways. But with the distinction of impressing on your terms.

venus oooo. You are already doing the rules. Keeping a date short and leaving him wanting more! Let him contact you.

sparkles. Eeek. Have you heard from him? He will be mortified bless him!

jolly I have no real answer to your question. I agree that you should be yourself. Here's my view. Myself is a jolly nice person. And I don't want to be hurt anymore. Until I know that the person sitting opposite me is going to be respectful of that, I'm just going to hold back. They still totally get the real me. Just not my headspace / time etc etc. That's how I view the rules. They are in essence saying don't get too involved too soon. Maintain your mental space and your life. I'm all for that in all honesty.

Have fab days all! Anyone who has dates enjoy. I'm now date free for the foreseeable future, next few weeks are solely family and friends turf! Cannot wait! [santa]

DeeDee47 · 12/12/2015 09:46

Can I join this thread,been reading for months
Just basically want to tell you my experience with Old,I met someone in June,we lived around 160 miles apart,but saw each other every 3 weeks,it worked well for us,as we had our,jobs,families and homes,were in contact every day got on well,had a holiday abroad early November,had a great time,we flew back,I came home contact resumed by phone,but a week later he dumped me by text,just saying he felt there were compatibility issues and wanting to send more time with his ds,its hurt me quite bad as I dident see it coming,and now feel everything he said were lies,I actually went back on to old but found he had deactivated his account when we met in June,I'm thinking something happened after our holiday,and ill probably never get to know what,just sad he couldn't talk about it,I'm now talking to two potential dates,but will read the rules thoroughly before thinking about meeting themWinkthanks for reading and good luck to you all

Destinysdaughter · 12/12/2015 09:57

Waving that sucks! You were perfectly entitled to ask what you would be doing on your date. His reaction was v worrying. And especially after sex when you often feel quite vulnerable. I'm crap at dating, I hate the stupid ' rules ', just want to be myself. Just play the field and try not to get too attached I guess...

Destinysdaughter · 12/12/2015 09:59

Dee that's horrid to be dumped out of the blue like that! Don't blame yourself I'm sure you did nothing wrong, onwards and upwards!

JollyXmasJumper · 12/12/2015 10:13

Hello all I am just popping in for an update : Popcorn has texted. An innocuous work-related thing that is supposed to be funny.

I am debating whether I even answer .. So quick Saturday morning poll: do I:
A) ignore? At least until he gets back with plans to meet up because that is the only freaking answer to "I want to see you more" besides "sorry I don't
B) acknowledge text with meaningless answer "haha"?
C) actually reply something?

And waving, I completely get how you feel, it is shite. Here, Thanks. I had to turn off my phone not tell Popcorn what I really thought of his silence. I kind of wished I had got that off my chest though. At least he knows where you stand now.

I have to run now but will religiously read the rest later on - have a lovely day!

Handywoman · 12/12/2015 10:21

I'm going for A).

Lacoba66 · 12/12/2015 10:23

Would be A for me also...

CainInThePunting · 12/12/2015 10:34

I'm taking it Popcorn was ignoring you and has broken the silence with a joke text? A from me.

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TooSassy · 12/12/2015 10:47

jolly before I reply...what's the history of you both? Your response depends on how you've both been this far?

TooSassy · 12/12/2015 10:59

dee welcome!

Shock about that! I'd be hurt by that. There are some lovely guys out there so we just have to keep looking!

waving good call on the ignoring. I've also been known to delete a number in the past. Somehow that just helps me not think about it and feel in control. Then it's up to them to make contact and if not, c'est la vie! Next!

I'm also the one who after DTD gets up and starts to get dressed. I don't want cuddles, intimacy or pillow talk until a relationship is much more established. Again it comes back to protecting me. Because that does all feel so much more intimate. As destiny said, I guess we all feel vulnerable after having sex. Getting dressed somehow helps with that.
I think I may also have commitment issues.....

itsallpoop · 12/12/2015 11:33

Hello everyone, been reading your updates with interest. waving - I really feel your pain, I have been in almost the same situation and you just get so irritated and upset and then you feel silly.

I met Mr Fireman on Thursday. He really is a nice man, think he wants to move a bit fast - talking about meeting my family and what to buy me for Christmas, so I'm backing off slightly. But I just get the feeling he would never let me down, or cheat; he'd always text when he said he would, he'd be a good partner. But not entirely sure there's any sexual spark there for me; I don't really fancy him at all, but I think I could grow to as he's a nice person, iyswim?

Mr Short, on the other hand - think there's a couple of red flags there, he's been on his own for a while and doesn't seem like he would fit in with my world. He's a bit rough around the edges - not a criticism at all, because I like that - but my working world is full of etiquette and rules. My family is tiny and very conservative; we NEVER swear, and he turns the air blue - in general conversation, not in an aggressive manner. He also mentions he likes having his own space in relationships - again, not a problem - and I think there's a history of MH issues, though he seems to have them under control. Triggered by a specific incident, which he told me about.

But - we DTD last night and it was absolutely amazing. Honestly, never felt like that before. It was seriously fantastic. He is so considerate and caring and attentive, my needs came way above his. Over and over again (sorry if TMI, but OMG!!!) Blush Blush Blush.

Not really spoken about the next steps because I was barely about to form a coherent sentence but get the feeling we both want there to be a next time.

But he's far more risky, and will no doubt be far more work - than Mr Fireman. In the past I have always taken the hardest path, and not just in relationships, so I do think I should give myself a break from hard work. And obviously I know there's more that just two men in the world, so it's not a case of Mr Fireman or Mr Short or no-one.

But even so - life is too short to not have amazing sex when you can. Isn't it?!?

Justaboy · 12/12/2015 12:15

I couldn't possibly comment IAP!!;)

Trills · 12/12/2015 12:24

Great to hear that you're finding time to go out on dates even at this time of year!

And even having "amazing sex". :o

Regarding Mr Popcorn - I have a possible kinder interpretation. If I were on a 3rd date with someone and they said they wanted to take things slow, I might pull back a bit and let them take the lead in messaging and suggesting things - to let them be in charge of the pace. Either that or I might think that it was their way of saying that they were not that into me.

You know him better than I do of course, but I don't think we should jump to "he only wanted sex".

On "RULES"

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is you don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin
  3. Do no invest emotionally too soon
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens
  5. Trust your gut instinct
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault
  7. You are the prize - they should be trying to impress you
  8. If it's not fun- stop
  9. Loo update is mandatory
10. No dating the thread

I agree with all of these rules. Even though #7 is tricky to apply in both directions. Maybe should rephrase as "think more about whether you like them, than about whether they like you".

Rules about not giving out your number or not being "chatty" by text? Not so much.

If I have a conversation with someone that goes
"How's your day going"
"Fine thanks how's yours?"
Then I assume that we have nothing to say to one another.
Say something INTERESTING dammit (that applies to them and to me).
I get really fed up with texts saying "How's your weekend?" - they may as well text me saying "I can't think of anything to say, it's now up to you to make a conversation happen".

I also give out my number fairly early because I cannot stand the messaging interface of most of the dating apps. Tinder chat is horrible and I'd rather move them onto WhatsApp.

Handywoman · 12/12/2015 16:08

Ooh there's a lot going on! sparkles if he reeks of smoke - will you see him again??

waving sorry your date ended up like that, forgive yourself for losing your cool and wait and see what happens. hey. poor you. although if you can't be vulnerable you can't have a relationship... so don't beat yourself up over it.

Had a message from a guy who is not my type - he's very muscly/bulky. Obv spends time doing weights. He composed a very polite message to me - I was equally polite but said we prob weren't each other's type now he says 'why do you think that??'!!! Why can't guys just tell when we're giving them the 'thanks but no thanks' spiel?!

Handywoman · 12/12/2015 16:38

Oh poop absolutely go with fab sex for now!!!! Oh hooray for you Grin

fishfingersinmysandwiches · 12/12/2015 16:56

Another one here who's delighted for you Poop. The world needs more amazing sex. Enjoy Smile

ittooshallpass · 12/12/2015 17:00

Been reading this thread, but never posted... now I need some advice so hope you wise ladies can help.

I have just started OLD after 3 years of being single. I'm also a single mum so it's a big step for me...

Any way... as expected, the ones I like don't like me and vice versa...

I am trying to be open... not ticking boxes, etc. So when I received a message from someone with no profile details, I thought maybe I should just have a chat and see what happens.

He looks pretty nice in his photo and his messages are funny, if predictable; when I asked him what I wanted for Christmas, he said to shag you 😮

I politely declined. But his subsequent one-liner messages have been funny...

He now wants to meet for a drink. Do I go? I'm not likely to be falling into bed with him any time soon (I'm a born again Virgin, it's been a long time and I will be taking it slow...) but I don't know if he's a slime-ball or this is the way it is with OLD?

Am I a prude? Should I laugh with him or at him??

Lacoba66 · 12/12/2015 17:34

ittoo I would still go, but make it VERY clear that a 'shag' is not on the cards!

I've been chatting to a guy who was widowed 20 years ago and he said " I need to make up for 20 years of enforced celibacy. Any ideas"?.

I've replied that he needs to ask Santa if he can come back in his next life as a Rabbit!

If your keeps eluding to it, then I'd shut him down and move on.

ittooshallpass · 12/12/2015 17:43

Thank you for the quick reply Laco; I guess a quick drink will tell me all I need to know!

Love your reply to horny widower, lol...

TooSassy · 12/12/2015 18:17

iap Grinat your amazing sex!!! You go girl!!! Life is definitely too short to even think about walking away from mind blowing sex. Whoop whoop so happy for you!

trills your post made me laugh out loud! Especially the 'say something interesting'. Lol.

ittoo I agree with Lacob. Meet him but be clear that's shag is not on the cards.

waving how you doing? You ok?

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