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DH has left again

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AndHarry · 17/05/2015 08:34

Third time in as many years. He sat me down last night and said he was unhappy and thought we should separate. I asked him what he was unhappy about and what I needed to change. It was difficult to pin him down to anything but then it came out: he wants me to do things for him like sew buttons back onto his shirts and fix his trousers when there's a hole in the pocket or the hem has dropped. That's it. He wants to put me through all this again because of a few buttons. It's so incredibly pathetic I would laugh if I wasn't crying.

What it actually boils down to is that he wants to feel respected as the manly head of the household, even if he hasn't put it like that. As I told him last night, it's difficult to respect him when I feel like his mother: organising everything, picking up after him, reminding him of essential things that need doing for the kids, coming into the kitchen many days to find it full of dirty crockery from the day(s) before (I cook, he washes up), struggle to tidy up because the bins are overflowing (his job) and have to cajole him into coming out with the kids instead of sticking on a DVD and lying on the sofa all weekend. I have tried and tried in as many ways as I could think of to make things easy for him and do things for him but get ground down by the sheer laziness of his response. The more I do, the less he bothers.

I said I would do everything around the house if that would stop the arguments and resentment, just to be stonewalled with 'it won't work'. I asked him to try doing the household chores he had agreed to do, consistently, and got 'it won't work'.

I pointed out that I had supported him in going to the gym every morning before work and going out with his friends several nights a week so that he gets his own time. Apparently 'it's not that'.

I said how hurt I was that he had complained about what I cooked so I only made the things he said he wanted but he still orders pizza for himself. How hurt I am that when I did as he asked and made his lunches he didn't eat them, preferring to get fast food instead. 'Shrug'.

The fact is that he has a pretty cushy life but, as he repeatedly points out, he is the 'breadwinner' while I only work because I want to, so anything wrong around the house is immediately my fault for not being wifely enough.

I ended up screaming into my pillow with sheer frustration. He didn't come to bed and this morning he wasn't in the house and his car has gone.

Another fall to the tax office to sort out tax credits tomorrow. Another time trying to keep myself together for the kids, dealing with their anxieties over their dad being gone, pretending that he's in meetings or at the gym every evening. Dealing with my parents' disappointment again.

I'm sorry this is an essay. I don't want anything, just needed to get it out.

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Fluffycloudland77 · 17/05/2015 17:49

You can arrange to see the companies accountant, see if there's any debt on it.

You can also contact the council to take advantage of the 25% discount for single occupancy.

Perhaps meet at your mums? That way she can mind the kids and he can't refuse to leave the house if he's not in it.

HooplaWoman · 17/05/2015 18:05

Oh how awful. It really is. And right now you will think that the rest of your life will always feel as awful as it does now. But it won't. I swear to you it won't. Because time can't help but pass and humans simply cannot sustain high emotion, whether bad or good, for any length of time.

The very worst heartbreak heals. It always does. And in a strange way that is often the very saddest thing of all. Because in a year's time (or less) this will have stopped being 'the very worst thing ever to happen, ever' and instead it will have become something 'quite upsetting still but it was nearly a year ago.' Then a few months after that it will have faded into 'that annoying ex who I still have to deal with from time to time' and eventually it will have merely become 'what a sad bastard he was, thank God I am now with a decent partner who treats me so much better and has a much bigger cock' Wink

I have witnessed a few very similar break ups to yours OP. Where the woman has tied herself in knots trying to please her ManChild but he's still walked in the end.

Each time they have been despairing. Followed by numb. Followed by 'mad as Hell'. Followed by finally feeling free but confused why they put up with it for so long.

It will be just the same for you. I promise.

You will be absolutely fine OP. Welcome to the rest of your life Smile

Baddz · 17/05/2015 18:10

Christ
No man is worth this.
You and your dc deserve better

tribpot · 17/05/2015 18:53

Fluffycloud makes a good point - would you consider meeting him out of the house?

ShipwreckedAndComatose · 17/05/2015 19:01

So sorry to read the updates and it's not hugely surprising, really.

Once a prize prick always a prize prick.

You are doing all the right things, Harry. Stay strong x

ShipwreckedAndComatose · 17/05/2015 19:47

Sorry, I didn't mean that to sound harsh. Just that he is being depressingly predictable in his childish, self absorbed behaviour.

Look after yourself xx

AndHarry · 17/05/2015 20:14

Thanks all. I've got a mental checklist of the practical bits so I just need to set the wheels in motion tomorrow.

I'm sure it will catch up with me at some point but for now it's o e foot infront of the other.

Thankyou for all your kind words.

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Lweji · 17/05/2015 20:24

I'm sure it will catch up with me at some point but for now it's one foot in front of the other.

Yes, it is. And it's good that you are doing it. There will be time to mourn the end of the relationship and your hopes about it. But right now you must take care of the funeral.

HooplaWoman · 17/05/2015 21:39

"but for now it's one foot in front of the other"

Just keep reminding yourself that you are walking away from something bad and toward something better Smile

AndHarry · 17/05/2015 22:10

Oh brilliant, I just cried down the phone to my manager Blush I have tomorrow off to start sorting out admin though, which is great.

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Lweji · 17/05/2015 22:14

You are only human. Give yourself a break. Flowers

ShipwreckedAndComatose · 18/05/2015 17:51

I hope today went well, Harry

Ohfourfoxache · 18/05/2015 20:38

What an arse Angry

Hope you're as ok as you can be x

MozzchopsThirty · 18/05/2015 21:03

Been thinking about you today, hope you're ok x

poppym12 · 18/05/2015 22:07

apologies, i haven't had time to read every post yet but i'm so sorry you are experiencing the pathetic behaviour of an overgrown man-child :( i had one of those for a few years.

the tipping point in my marriage came after i had a serious accident. he 'coped' by going out more, meeting new 'friends' etc. i was still quite poorly at that time but i took steps to become a single parent; contacted tax credits and a solicitor and concentrated on making a new life for ds and i (he was about 6 years old then).

it is hard and scary but after the fear had subsided, it felt as if a weight (about 14 stone) had been lifted from my shoulders as i no longer had to be his mummy and sort out all of the crap he caused in his life and bad business decisions.

reach out to friends and family for support and help with the children. you deserve a happy life and you can have that Flowers

AndHarry · 18/05/2015 22:56

Today has been spent doing practical things. H came this evening after the kids were in bed to talk through the practicalities. Hideous conversation but at least it was civil.

I've kept it together pretty well. I had a brief wobble when meeting with DS' teacher to inform her of the situation but no tears so I'm quite proud of myself really.

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poppym12 · 18/05/2015 23:19

you should be proud of yourself. you are sorting the things out that will enable you to live happily. don't feel bad if and when the tears start. you'll have times where you think you can't manage to keep it together but you will.

it is difficult to keep things civil but it needs to be done with the parenting decisions. the day i packed ex's clothes up shoved into bin bags, i was distraught and thought i would never cope but i did - and life was much less stressful when i wasn't having to look after him.

Lweji · 18/05/2015 23:40

One step at a time.

It will get easier.

Flowers
tribpot · 19/05/2015 00:01

Are you any clearer on the extent of the debt?

One step at a time.

AndHarry · 19/05/2015 12:04

The debt is a couple of thousand pounds, one to each lender. He said one lender has been paid off. The other one is only in his name.

I was alright yesterday and actually quite positive overall. Today I'm back at work and desperately trying to focus. I feel heavy IYKWIM.

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RB68 · 19/05/2015 12:32

Through all of this be nice and gentle with yourself. Today is a day to gather yourself, you will feel like you do as you have faced up to and done lots of things. Regroup, pat yourself on the back, do something nice for yourself and revel in it (doesn't have to cost alot) then write the next three things down and move on. You are doing great! When I went through a serious breakup I found keeping a diary helped - rants, emotions utter crap just write it all down it helped me alot.

Lioninthesun · 19/05/2015 12:54

Yes, be kind to yourself. Keep the anger to propel yourself, but keep it civil.
Can you trust that he has indeed paid off the lender? I am suspicious as he didn't tell you before and may be biding his time to try to sort it out... Can you find out?

You are doing so well! Little steps and lots of treats for you and dc will keep your mind off it when you have down time.

AndHarry · 19/05/2015 13:08

I don't know if he has actually paid them off but TBH I don't care enough to ask him for proof. There's enough in the bank to repay both if needed. The bit I care about is that he concealed it from me again, after promising last time (and the time before) that he would never do that again, both privately and in our counselling sessions.

He's coming over this evening once I pick up the kids after work so we can have a conversation with them about what's going on. I've explained the situation to the school and nursery and it's half-term next week so I'll be able to spend lots of time with them and give plenty of TLC.

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Effiewhaursmabaffies · 19/05/2015 13:55

I never actually post on these threads, but I just had to say that you sound awesome and your 'D'H is a fool.

Jenda · 19/05/2015 14:08

Ditto to the above! I get the feeling that when this is all sorted and you are on your feet you are going to feel brilliantly free and happy, you deserve it Thanks