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DH has left again

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AndHarry · 17/05/2015 08:34

Third time in as many years. He sat me down last night and said he was unhappy and thought we should separate. I asked him what he was unhappy about and what I needed to change. It was difficult to pin him down to anything but then it came out: he wants me to do things for him like sew buttons back onto his shirts and fix his trousers when there's a hole in the pocket or the hem has dropped. That's it. He wants to put me through all this again because of a few buttons. It's so incredibly pathetic I would laugh if I wasn't crying.

What it actually boils down to is that he wants to feel respected as the manly head of the household, even if he hasn't put it like that. As I told him last night, it's difficult to respect him when I feel like his mother: organising everything, picking up after him, reminding him of essential things that need doing for the kids, coming into the kitchen many days to find it full of dirty crockery from the day(s) before (I cook, he washes up), struggle to tidy up because the bins are overflowing (his job) and have to cajole him into coming out with the kids instead of sticking on a DVD and lying on the sofa all weekend. I have tried and tried in as many ways as I could think of to make things easy for him and do things for him but get ground down by the sheer laziness of his response. The more I do, the less he bothers.

I said I would do everything around the house if that would stop the arguments and resentment, just to be stonewalled with 'it won't work'. I asked him to try doing the household chores he had agreed to do, consistently, and got 'it won't work'.

I pointed out that I had supported him in going to the gym every morning before work and going out with his friends several nights a week so that he gets his own time. Apparently 'it's not that'.

I said how hurt I was that he had complained about what I cooked so I only made the things he said he wanted but he still orders pizza for himself. How hurt I am that when I did as he asked and made his lunches he didn't eat them, preferring to get fast food instead. 'Shrug'.

The fact is that he has a pretty cushy life but, as he repeatedly points out, he is the 'breadwinner' while I only work because I want to, so anything wrong around the house is immediately my fault for not being wifely enough.

I ended up screaming into my pillow with sheer frustration. He didn't come to bed and this morning he wasn't in the house and his car has gone.

Another fall to the tax office to sort out tax credits tomorrow. Another time trying to keep myself together for the kids, dealing with their anxieties over their dad being gone, pretending that he's in meetings or at the gym every evening. Dealing with my parents' disappointment again.

I'm sorry this is an essay. I don't want anything, just needed to get it out.

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HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 17/05/2015 15:45

Sigh. Why am I not surprised?

The idea of him taking the kids on holiday while you get some space to just breathe and think is a great one. I bet you it won't happen though - too much like hard work for him.

BuzzardBird · 17/05/2015 15:46

Right, solicitor appointment tomorrow. Free 30 mins with some.

Time to get sorted, nothing you can say and nothing he can do to change this situation now is there?

That ship is sinking, don't let him take you and the children with it.

I am so sorry you are going through this. Thanks

iHAVEtogetoutofhere · 17/05/2015 15:47

"How dare he?"

Sorry you are finding out more hideousness but USE this anger to get you to a better place (either physically or emotionally).

x.

BuzzardBird · 17/05/2015 15:47

Oh, and withdraw any money left from joint accounts into your own account, before he does.

AndHarry · 17/05/2015 15:48

This is just too much. I can't get hold of my mum but I've sent her an email with links to this thread and his dating profile. I've called a friend and they're coming round now. I've put the kids infront of a Disney DVD and am in my room crying. I've got to keep it together for them.

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RandomMess · 17/05/2015 15:52

TBH I'd make him take the dc on holiday whilst you start the divorce stuff rolling.

You need the break.

Lweji · 17/05/2015 15:54

Great that you are getting real life support. I hope you get hold of your mum soon.

I might be getting a locksmith today to change locks (yes, I know you shouldn't legally, but it's easy to lose keys when you are upset) and make sure he can't just take things out of the house without your consent first.

tribpot · 17/05/2015 15:55

Yes - Buzzard is right. No time for crying, you need to start securing the assets of the marriage. Whatever money you can put beyond his immediate use will be a good start. Can you lock the doors from the inside of the house so he can't get in? I would calmly advise him that you would like a few days of respite from this and he should make alternative arrangements for accommodation until at least Wednesday. Your friend can help you sort this stuff out when they arrive.

Justusemyname · 17/05/2015 15:57

This isn't about what he does or doesn't do in the house. It's about how he's ground you down to the point that he threatens to leave and you immediately ask what YOU can do to make him want to stay.

And now I see he's looking for a quick shag and another woman to break. I'm so sorry love. You'll get more support from strangers on here than you will for the man who promised to love and honour you...

ImperialBlether · 17/05/2015 16:04

I'm so sorry you're going through this.

The thing is, though, he's made sure now that there's no going back, hasn't he? Not from his point of view, but from yours.

Personally I wouldn't believe he was sleeping in his office. He looks after himself too well - he wouldn't put himself out by sleeping on a chair.

I would bet anything he's with someone right now - it fits in with the dating profile and also with his 'absence' from home whilst he's at home. He had other things on his mind.

You deserve much, much better than this. He's made this really easy - you have all the evidence, you are really clearly in the right and he has gone.

Do your parents own your home?

ImperialBlether · 17/05/2015 16:05

Do you have a friend who can come on the holiday with you?

AndHarry · 17/05/2015 16:08

No, DH and I own the house, via a mortgage. I've taken screenshots of his profile, the emails from the site and the debt notices.

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AndHarry · 17/05/2015 16:09

I do Imperial but I think I'd do better just having some breathing space on my own with the kids.

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EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 17/05/2015 16:09

Do you have screenshots of the dating profile and debt information?

I sincerely hope that you will decide enough is enough with this prick now :(

ImperialBlether · 17/05/2015 16:10

What level of debt are you talking about, OP? Is it for household things (mortgage, gas etc) or for things he's bought for himself?

BuzzardBird · 17/05/2015 16:21

Please secure your finances now before you do anything else. Joint accounts can be accessed by him too and you cannot trust him.

I know it's hard but you really do need to be practical first.

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 17/05/2015 16:28

"The other two times I asked him to go because he got us into debt (not paying bills) and then lied about it."

So, he fancies himself as the big, swinging dick at home because he's The Breadwinner but can't even be relied on to ensure the household bills are paid. While he swans off to the gym and buys himself take-aways, and now there's more shit left unpaid. This "man" is not a competent adult, never mind what should be a husband and father.

Pack his fucking bags! You've been quite efficiently running your home despite his best efforts to sabotage it all, and will likely do better without this human mill-stone around your necks.

Honestly, he really doesn't deserve you.

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 17/05/2015 16:32

Get down to the bank tomorrow and withdraw all funds from any joint accounts. If possible open up your own and get the joint accounts closed.

From what it sounds like, his business is on the skids. And probably not for the first time.

Protect yourself and your children from his irresponsibility.

AndHarry · 17/05/2015 16:48

I think the debt is for household things but the notices look like they're coming from payday loan-type companies so it's in his name only rather than both of us.

I own 50% of the business so I will be getting a solicitor's appointment tomorrow and working out how to disentangle myself. Also an STI check Hmm

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tribpot · 17/05/2015 17:24

Bloody hell. So payday loans suggest things are very far out of control and the fact you co-own the business is not good news either. Are you a shareholder only, or also a director? Do you remember signing anything in connection with the business recently?

Seriously, have you checked the balance of your joint account? You need to get any remaining money out of there.

I would want to see credit reports for him although officially there is an identity verification process to go through.

Has your friend arrived?

Fluffycloudland77 · 17/05/2015 17:25

Right, the priority now is finding just how much debt he's in and disentangling yourself.

Get what paperwork you can and give it to your mum to look after.

Deadlock or bolt the doors.

I thought the sewing thing was bollocks but didn't like to call ow so early.

AnyFucker · 17/05/2015 17:27

Let this be your Last Straw, OP

No more

This man isn't fit to wipe your boots on.

AndHarry · 17/05/2015 17:36

I got hold of my mum and she's here now. Good point about the paperwork.

I'm the company secretary. I haven't signed anything recently. There's a decent amount of money in both the business accounts. Confused I don't have any documents related to the company at all.

I called him and arranged for him to come here tomorrow evening to go through the practicalities: paperwork, childcare arrangements etc.

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Lioninthesun · 17/05/2015 17:42

if you really want to start getting your life back you coukd visit a couple of solicitors and start the ball rolling. It sounds as if nothing you do will ever be enough and will make you both miserable in the meantime.
Have you considered taking a friend on the holiday instead? You could probably change the name and it might be nice to offer it to someone you will have fun with and talk things through? I think the over nights elsewhere and picking holes does sound suspicious - lots of red flags for an affair I'm sorry to say. try to focus on where you want to be next year and plunge into how to make that happen, it's a good way to keep busy and be pro-active.

juneau · 17/05/2015 17:49

I've just found his profile on a dating site.

Oh OP Flowers.

You will be SO much better off without him in your life. Lying, deceitful, manipulative shit that he is.