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DH has left again

664 replies

AndHarry · 17/05/2015 08:34

Third time in as many years. He sat me down last night and said he was unhappy and thought we should separate. I asked him what he was unhappy about and what I needed to change. It was difficult to pin him down to anything but then it came out: he wants me to do things for him like sew buttons back onto his shirts and fix his trousers when there's a hole in the pocket or the hem has dropped. That's it. He wants to put me through all this again because of a few buttons. It's so incredibly pathetic I would laugh if I wasn't crying.

What it actually boils down to is that he wants to feel respected as the manly head of the household, even if he hasn't put it like that. As I told him last night, it's difficult to respect him when I feel like his mother: organising everything, picking up after him, reminding him of essential things that need doing for the kids, coming into the kitchen many days to find it full of dirty crockery from the day(s) before (I cook, he washes up), struggle to tidy up because the bins are overflowing (his job) and have to cajole him into coming out with the kids instead of sticking on a DVD and lying on the sofa all weekend. I have tried and tried in as many ways as I could think of to make things easy for him and do things for him but get ground down by the sheer laziness of his response. The more I do, the less he bothers.

I said I would do everything around the house if that would stop the arguments and resentment, just to be stonewalled with 'it won't work'. I asked him to try doing the household chores he had agreed to do, consistently, and got 'it won't work'.

I pointed out that I had supported him in going to the gym every morning before work and going out with his friends several nights a week so that he gets his own time. Apparently 'it's not that'.

I said how hurt I was that he had complained about what I cooked so I only made the things he said he wanted but he still orders pizza for himself. How hurt I am that when I did as he asked and made his lunches he didn't eat them, preferring to get fast food instead. 'Shrug'.

The fact is that he has a pretty cushy life but, as he repeatedly points out, he is the 'breadwinner' while I only work because I want to, so anything wrong around the house is immediately my fault for not being wifely enough.

I ended up screaming into my pillow with sheer frustration. He didn't come to bed and this morning he wasn't in the house and his car has gone.

Another fall to the tax office to sort out tax credits tomorrow. Another time trying to keep myself together for the kids, dealing with their anxieties over their dad being gone, pretending that he's in meetings or at the gym every evening. Dealing with my parents' disappointment again.

I'm sorry this is an essay. I don't want anything, just needed to get it out.

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differentnameforthis · 17/05/2015 10:46

It's not about buttons...there is someone else.

BitOutOfPractice · 17/05/2015 10:50

So he doesn't help round the house, he doesn't provide, he doesn't support you, he constantly criticises and you feel alone and stressed while he continues to live the life of riley with time for hobbies and nights out and, I suspect, an OW.

Could you let me know what he DOES bring to the party OP?

AndHarry · 17/05/2015 11:08

When he's in switched-on home mode he is kind, he makes me laugh, he plays with the children, we have fun together. Often though, he's home but he's not 'home'.

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BitOutOfPractice · 17/05/2015 11:14

So he is capable of being nice and kind and fun. But most of the time he chooses not to. He makes that choice. That's worse AndHarry, not better

HolgerDanske · 17/05/2015 11:21

Poor you Flowers

But I have to say I completely agree with others. This is a blessing in disguise.

Let him go. He doesn't deserve you, and you deserve far better.

You can do it, you'll get stronger as the days go by.

BIWI · 17/05/2015 11:28

I can see that you are worrying about how you'll cope - but actually, based on what you've written here, your life will be a lot easier to manage without having to constantly worry about what he is (or isn't) doing, having to clear up after him all the time.

He doesn't love or respect you. If he did, he wouldn't be constantly reverting to his lazy default position and letting you do everything.

AndHarry · 17/05/2015 11:34

YouMakeMyHeartSmile I missed your question. I used to like doing nice things for him like ironing his shirts and making his lunches, because I loved him and wanted to help him out. I slowly got fed up though when the lunches went uneaten and my efforts weren't reciprocated. So while I'm happy to pull my weight, I don't want to play the little housewife role: I'm clever and ambitious and was bored to tears on maternity leave.

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Lweji · 17/05/2015 11:40

You are already doing everything and organising everything. Why do you think you won't cope?

Let him go.

In fact, tell him to pack and go.

I'd bet he will soon backtrack, but you should push him out.
I'm sure he is only doing it so that you bend over even more backwards to please him, and to keep you under control. Call his bluff. He is not someone worth keep and you can be happier alone, or with someone else who is actually an adult.

Lweji · 17/05/2015 11:43

Having rethought it, pack his stuff and put the by the door.

And if he wants to stay, then you have some conditions.

HolgerDanske · 17/05/2015 11:56

Tbh I don't think you should let him stay even if he swears up and down that he'll do better.

MozzchopsThirty · 17/05/2015 12:04

OP sound like you need some counselling
Your whole idea of a relationship is making someone else happy and not thinking about yourself

Please get out of this marriage, you have nothing to loose and everything to gain

specialsubject · 17/05/2015 14:54

good riddance. He doesn't respect you or enjoy your company and you certainly don't enjoy his or respect him - and why should you, what a tosser.

split and remove. Tell your parents that your only mistake was not getting rid of him sooner.

you sound perfectly capable and you will have a lot LESS of an emotional burden without him.

there are ways of telling the kids, hopefully he will still be daddy but he's certainly no husband worth the name.

good luck to you because you deserve much better than this.

BertPuttocks · 17/05/2015 15:04

It's remarkably convenient timing for him, isn't it?

He leaves just before you're due to go on holiday, meaning that you get all the work while he has all that time to himself to do whatever he likes.

I would be aiming to make sure that he can't get into the house while you're away.

juneau · 17/05/2015 15:09

I think if he's tried to leave three times you should really just let him go. TBH he doesn't sound like he adds an awful lot to your life and this constantly waiting on him hand and foot to 'try and make his life easier' is bullshit, and I think you know that. If he was genuinely invested in this relationship and in parenting your DC equally and being a committed partner in this marriage he would just step up, share what needed to be done, and stop being such a big, spoiled baby. Breaking up is utterly shit, but I honestly think you'll be better off without him. At least you won't constantly be having to treat him like another child, always terrified that if you don't smooth things out for him he'll leave. Call his bluff - in fact ASK him to leave. Tell him that you're done with this shit.

MakeHayIsOrange · 17/05/2015 15:19

My 'D'H did this - told me that he didn't think he loved me for the first time just after ds was born, we had counselling and patched it up but then during my pg with dd(2) he told me the same thing and said he was considering leaving. One reason was because I didn't do enough housework (another was because I posted for advice about our relationship on here the first time he did this and then again mentioned him in a question about crutches in pregnancy!). Like a twat I upped my housework (I'm a bit messy but not a slattern, mostly....), managed the pregnancy exhaustion, spd and looking after two other sleepless tinies and then he left anyway, 5 weeks after dd was born in a cs birth that left me with a significant portion of my blood missing.

Anyway, the point is, that this was a year ago and a year later I have managed where after all that I thought I wouldn't, I am happy and the children are happy. You can do it, you are not alone. If this is the third time, make it the last and know that there will be a dark time in front of you but there is definitely light at the end of it. And without that pressure of having to carry someone who's not sure whether or not they love you enough to raise your children alongside you, you will be better off, even if you don't feel it right now.

AndHarry · 17/05/2015 15:25

Thanks everyone. I'm actually finding this time easier because it's him who has decided to leave, so there's no wrestling with my own conscience IYSWIM.

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Limedaiquirialwayslime · 17/05/2015 15:30

I haven't read the full thread but you say you think you'll struggle to cope. The thing is, from your original OP, you do cope, you have been doing everything and managing. He doesn't help, in fact he adds to your workload. I'm sorry this is so tough for you but it seems like you would be better off without him. Let him go and when he comes crawling back, say no.
Flowers

AndHarry · 17/05/2015 15:35

I've just found his profile on a dating site. I feel sick.

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Lweji · 17/05/2015 15:35

He leaves just before you're due to go on holiday, meaning that you get all the work while he has all that time to himself to do whatever he likes.

Why not sending him on holiday with the children?

Get the time to sort out becoming a single mum.

Lweji · 17/05/2015 15:36

That's your unreasonable behaviour for the divorce papers. Screen shot it.

AndHarry · 17/05/2015 15:40

And more debt. How dare he?!

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Penfold007 · 17/05/2015 15:40

AndHarry what an awful way to find out that he has long checked out of your marriage. I bet he didn't sleep in the office last night. Has he made any contact?

winkywinkola · 17/05/2015 15:42

You can't let him pull the rug from under again.

I think you will feel relieved when he cannot decide to leave again or get your family into debt again.

He sounds like a real creep. A REAL CREEP.

iHAVEtogetoutofhere · 17/05/2015 15:43

My H has 'walked out' in the past.
Other times he has technically been here, but actually in the sense of responsibility, effort and help, been absent.

It is always when I am extra vunerable - after a birth, illness, difficulty in life or before a course, holiday, house move.

It is vile.

OP - I also think you would be better off without him.
I hope you and your children THRIVE without him, in fact.

I also wonder if he doesn't have business problems/other woman as the comments about 'button's' etc are ridiculous.

It really isn't you - it's him - by a country mile - with any 'problems'.

Lweji · 17/05/2015 15:44

If he is getting into debt, the sooner you separate the better.

I'd really start with the packing.