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DP- is he tight or am I just a princess?

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CotswoldQueen · 13/05/2015 12:18

I have been with my DP for 2 years, we have a great relationship, I fancy him rotten, he is kind and caring, we get on great and he DOES make me really happy. I don’t know whether I’m just being a princess, trying to self-sabotage or what but sometimes it just seems like….well I don’t really know.

I guess I could start by saying that my long term ex was fabulous, we were together for 6 years, he was everything my current DP is but also generous and I was never in any doubt that he absolutely adored me and was my no 1 fan. Unfortunately, for me, the relationship just wasn’t what I wanted, I felt like we’d become more like best friends, I just didn’t want him sexually anymore, I absolutely loved the bones of him, but I was no longer in love with him so I ended it.

When I say he was generous, he would sometimes buy me random, thoughtful presents just because he thought I’d like them. He would always insist on paying when we went out and I would literally have to put the cash for my half into his jacket pocket etc when he wasn’t looking. He would love to celebrate our anniversaries, birthdays etc and would book surprise weekends away or take me out to dinner.

Don’t get me wrong, because he was generous to me, I wanted to be generous to him too and was, I used to spoil him on his birthday and on our anniversary’s etc. It was just nice, I know it’s materialistic but we both just enjoyed treating each other.

Cut to current DP, he has a very good, professional job, earns a lot of money and has a lot of disposable income. He, however, is a saver not a spender. He kinda counts every penny and just, I don’t know, I can’t really explain it but it’s like he resents spending anything on me?

We don’t live together, he has his own (large house) and I currently rent a cottage off a family friend. After paying for my rent, bills and paying off some debts and the animals, I don’t have a vast amount left over each month, enough to have a couple of nights out a month etc but not loads.

Whenever we go out for dinner, it always has to be split, down to the last penny. If I can’t afford to pay half then we (generally, there have been a couple of exceptions) don’t go. There is hardly ever an offer of ‘let’s go out to dinner tonight, I’m paying.’

I stay at his 3, occasionally 4 nights a week, but on the majority of those evenings I bring dinner for us both and wine for myself if drinking it. I clean his house (he is generally tidy but a typical man and can be a bit messy) help to look after his 2 dogs.

The other evening he made a hinting comment about how much toilet roll is being used lately with the 2 of us there, so I said I’d bring some round next time I’m there. A few weeks ago he was going to Tesco and I asked him if he could pick me up some make up remover wipes and deodorant as I had ran out of both, he did. They came to a total of £4.90 and he reminded me about that £4.90 within about 15 mins after getting back, I was going to give him the money FGS but it’s £4, I’m sure he’s not going to go bankrupt if he doesn’t get it within the hour.

I will often pay for things if we go out and he’ll say ‘I’ll transfer you half when we get back.’ And I say ‘It’s fine, it’s only £10 FGS’ The other week we went to the cinema, there was a massive que and I said ‘I’ll get the tickets, why don’t you get in the que for the popcorn.’ He said ‘No it’s fine, the film doesn’t start for another 15 mins yet, we’ve got plenty of time’ So, we finally get to the front and it’s so awkward as before I can say anything he goes ‘Ticket for one please to see XXX.’ The cashier looked really embarrassed, looked at us both and repeated ‘Just the one ticket?’ to which I jumped in before he could say anything and said ‘YES and one for me please too after he’s paid for his.’ We then went to the que for food, I stood in front of him and said ‘I’m going to get a medium, mixed popcorn.’ He then said ‘So how much is that, £3.56, I’ll give you the £1.78 when we get home.’ I had had enough at this point as the couple stood behind us (same couple that had stood behind for the tickets too) I could tell were aghast and snapped IT’S FINE, I CAN TREAT YOU TO SOME BLUMMIN POPCORN!! He looked a bit sheepish but said no, I owe you it, I’ll pay half, which he did!

We had a talk when we got home that night as he could tell I was annoyed, I said we are in a relationship, I do not want to quibble over £1.78 etc, and count every penny, it’s ridiculous and embarrassing. He said okay, let’s take it in turns to pay for things. Fine, but it really is mostly rigid with that and he even keeps a ‘diary’ of who has paid what, it just feel so…… unromantic?? I don’t mind blummin paying for him and treating him to things because I love him, I don’t expect half back etc or for him to rigidly ensure he treats me the next time.

The thing is, although he’s careful with his money he will OCCASIONALLY be generous with me, i.e get the bill if we go out, or the cinema tickets etc but it will be only be occasionally. He is generous to other people in his life, we had his brother and his wife down a few weeks ago and when they arrived on the Friday evening, he took us all out for a 3 course dinner and paid for the lot, same when his parents and friends have visited, in fact, he is pretty generous with his family and friends? He gave his brother a cheque for £8k when they were last down, to put into his two nephew’s trust funds. I felt an enormous rush of love for him when he did this, it was such a lovely, lovely thing to do.

He also went out and spent £30k on a boat a few weeks ago, so it’s really not like he doesn’t like spending money. He definitely doesn’t mind spending on his hobbies etc, he’s just not into frivolous spending I guess but also, doesn’t yet, seem to want to be generous when it comes to me?

Despite all said above, he is unbelievably kind, caring, supportive, good and generous in bed. He looks after me when I am ill, washes and cleans my car for me randomly when I’m not expecting it, has spent all day when I was on a girls day time cocktail/shopping trip fixing my car and the sole of a boot of mine that had broken, he cooks me dinner, brings me tea and toast in the morning at the weekends, gives me lifts if I need them, supports me in my hobby, is lovely to my friends and family. He is pretty perfect, but, for some reason I just don’t feel comfortable with him re money.

I am aware this post makes me seem like a mercenary gold digger, I promise you I’m not. I really do, I think I have just been really lucky with my ex in that he was an all-round nice guy and generous to boot. I have now met another all-round nice guy but he just tirelessly counts and records every penny when it comes to us and our relationship and I am starting to wonder whether this will continue (given that he is generous with his friends and family) and if so, whether it is a deal breaker for me. He has been vocal about wanting kids and we have talked about the future, I have absolutely no doubt that he would be generous with his children and they would want for nothing…but what about the mother of his children? We haven’t moved in together yet, again he’s hinted but at the moment I am failing to see how it would work, I have cheap rent where I am at the moment, if he expected me to pay half of everything, I would have about £100 a month leftover to pay for things like haircuts, nights out, clothes etc. I would struggle. I would end up resenting him.

OP posts:
kittybiscuits · 13/05/2015 23:44

Ohemgee I give up! OP please don't take any notice of this nonsense ^^

zigazigah01 · 13/05/2015 23:47

Kitty, folk are allowed to give another perspective on things, otherwise what is the point in asking the question??!!

zigazigah01 · 13/05/2015 23:49

Cotswold, hope you can resolve things one way or the other.

Only1scoop · 13/05/2015 23:49

Tell Juan sheet to take a hike with his miserly squeaky ways.

What a turn off

kittybiscuits · 13/05/2015 23:50

For some kind of reality check. But really, his stingyness is inexcusable, and no amount of making up stuff about the OP is going to justify the pathetic habits of this sublime joy-sucker.

Variousrandomthings · 13/05/2015 23:52

Why are you in debt OP? What do you spend your wage on?

kittybiscuits · 13/05/2015 23:55

Yes OP, is it crack cocaine and unicorns?

Variousrandomthings · 13/05/2015 23:55

Kitty I've already said that buying cinema tickets separately and paying for deodorant seems over the top. However I think there's more to the situation then meets the eye. If OP has little self control in relation to finances, alarm bells would ring.

Variousrandomthings · 13/05/2015 23:59

My sister has got herself into debt despite having no dependants and two wages coming in. Despite being in debt this year she's had two holidays abroad, a posh new sofa, a new seasonal outfit, various bits of latest technology and has given expensive over the top gifts.

zigazigah01 · 14/05/2015 00:00

Very confused as to where I have "made stuff up" about the OP Kitty, stop taking it all so personally.

It's a forum. People have different views.

HelenaDove · 14/05/2015 00:01

OnlyLovers. Yes that is one of the reasons hes an ex Along with telling me how to spend my own money when he was 9 grand in debt himself.

HelenaDove · 14/05/2015 00:04

YY Kitty Agree And i bet the same posters would be saying "Well surely there must have been signs earlier on in the relationship OP? " if the op was posting further on down the line while on mat leave and he was withholding finances then.

Lweji · 14/05/2015 00:04

Looking at how and where the OP spends money is not relevant at this point, because she has said herself that she is paying off her debt and she is getting better with money.

While he may be more cautious than with someone who is a saver, it still doesn't make sense to penny pinch with the OP (while subsidising his in debt brother) to the point that he is.

areyoubeingserviced · 14/05/2015 00:06

He's tight.
If you stay with him you will be as miserable as sin
He will NOT change

NameChange30 · 14/05/2015 00:06

What Lweji said

HelenaDove · 14/05/2015 00:10

I wonder if he would be subsidising an in debt sister so readily.

Variousrandomthings · 14/05/2015 00:13

You said it yourself, he's wary of your debts and ability to manage money. This results in tightness. Either you get on top of your debts and work on being financially organised or you walk away.

Variousrandomthings · 14/05/2015 00:15

He does need to be slightly less anal though

Lweji · 14/05/2015 00:17

If he is wary, then he would have dumped the OP by now. He hasn't though. He is quite happy to be with her, split everything in half down to the pennies, for the OP to clean his house after him and begrudge the cost of fucking toilet paper.

HelenaDove · 14/05/2015 00:21

Various the OP is already paying off those debts as she has already said so no need to gaslight!

NameChange30 · 14/05/2015 00:39

"slightly less anal" Hmm
SLIGHTLY?!

Lweji · 14/05/2015 00:40

slightly less anal

That might save on toilet paper, at least.

NameChange30 · 14/05/2015 00:45
Grin
springydaffs · 14/05/2015 01:02

You seem to be buying [arf] into his tight thing re you're in debt/ a princess. You're obsessed with money bcs he's obsessed with it (how dull!).

Come back in a few years when you're dressed in cheap, he in bond St, still counting the pennies, still citing his 'gold digger' ex for his excruciating tightness. You'll be half off your head by that stage.

Or you could leave him now.

You sound a bit dreamy, op. Still doesn't excuse his tightness. Your life will be hell on earth with him is my prediction. You'll never natch up, never 'prove' youre not after him for his money, despite scurrying around as his houseserf. Leave him to marry his money, charge it for its half eg wear and tear of wallets etc, have babies with it.

Gralick · 14/05/2015 01:29

It's not even the every-penny diary and the loo roll that gets me - although the loo roll's very, very bad. It's that he stood at the cinema desk and asked for ONE ticket.

It could not be clearer that he sees himself as entirely unconnected with you; in fact he seems to be keeping you at a distance, to the extent where he doesn't want a cinema cashier to see you as a couple.

I feel sad for you, trying to persuade yourself this relationship is something better than it is. I've put myself in uncomfortable situations before and am not judging you. But I truly hope you won't carry on sacrificing your dignity much longer.

If you still need to 'prove it' to yourself, I strongly suggest you give up skivvying & catering for him. Why would you do that, anyway?