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concerned where this may lead - a question about sex

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allybgood · 12/04/2015 13:54

I've been a long time lurker here. I love the site but I've never thought about posting anything before. And I certainly never thought I'd ever post a question about sex but here goes!

My husband and I have been together for nearly five years. We've always had what I thought of as a good sex life.

About a year ago, the subject of penis size came up in a conversation quite randomly. I can't even remember what started the conversation. I think it was something we saw on a TV show. Anyway, my husband asked me if I thought size mattered. Again, I can't really remember exactly what I answered but I think it was something like not really. I've come to realise whatever it was I said, it wasn't very convincing.

Three or four nights later in bed, completely out of the blue, he asked me how he compared to my previous partners. I've had 5, he's had a couple, and we'd always been very honest and open about our previous relationships. But we'd never really ever talked about the sexual aspect. Again, I said something non-committal like oh, you're all pretty much the same but I could see instantly that this wasn't going to wash. He was really quite insistent in a jovial sort of way and said something like come on, be honest. In the end - and I blame this on being a little tipsy, as we'd been out to dinner that night and he'd driven - I told him that he was a little smaller. He wouldn't leave it there though and finally I did tell him he was smaller that some of them. By this time, this was all getting a little steamy. He was obviously really turned on and I was too to be honest. When he asked me then really, am I bigger than some of them, I just said no, you're not, your the smallest I've had.

Now I have thought about this a lot and I still don't know why I told him that. I've come to understand in a way why he found it such a turn-on but I still don't understand why I found saying that to him so horny. Anyway, that was the end of the discussion because he fell on me and we had several hours of madly energetic sex!

After that night, questions about size or references to size just became more and more a part of our sex life. It's now got to a point that if I want to turn him on anywhere, anytime, I can whisper something like I bet he has a bigger one that you to him and I know that we'll be out of the supermarket and on the way home within minutes! I very rarely refer to his penis without "little" or "tiny" in front of the word now and it always has the desired effect.

As I've said, I've come to understand a little about why it turns him on. I've read about small penis humiliation on the web and I can see that it's not that unusual. I still don't really understands why it turns me on so though. It's not just that it turns him on so much!

I have been quite careful though. I have embellished, or probably more honestly, censored a lot of what I have told him about my previous partners. He is actually by far the smallest man I have been with and at least three of my previous partners were much bigger than him. I've always just said he was the smallest without going into further detail, even when he has pressed me for more information. I can usually divert him by saying something else explicit about his size and off he goes!

My problem is - and I apologise for the rambling preamble but I think what I am about to say wouldn't make sense if you didn't know all this - that he has started asking me if size matters to me. I have always said no, it doesn't and, when he starts to ask why or press my to justify, I just say if it did, would I still be with you after 5 years? But he clearly isn't satisfied and I'm pretty sure a lot of that is that I'm just not as good an actress as I think I am. There have been another couple of tipsy occasions where I have come very close to saying yes it does, but I've managed to hold out.

He's not going to stop asking me and I am really afraid that if I tell him what I really think, it's going to change this sexy game into something quite different. I love him very much and I don't want to hurt him but I also feel bad lying to him - even if it is a white lie.

I'd be really interested to know if any of you have ever encountered anything like this yourself. And I'll happily listen to any advice on whether I should keep my big fat mouth shut!

Thanks for listening!

OP posts:
Syd12345 · 30/04/2015 03:21

Reading up on this topic, I came across a very brave, honest and intelligent woman who expressed her own experience with uncontrolled arousal. This from a female perspective:

www.elephantjournal.com/2012/08/unwanted-arousal-sexual-shame-jeanette-geraci/

I really admire her courage and thought this might help anyone else in a similar situation.

unmee · 01/05/2015 13:15

It's interesting to get an insight into just how fascinated men are with size issues. I had no idea this stuff was going around in DPs head until it all came out, like I said, over a long period of arguments which mainly had an underlying sex aspect, and then eventually when we seemed to be getting nowhere, a big 'direct' opening up by him, a stating of exactly what he felt, no beating around the bush, and what he 'desired' to 'get off' sexually.
I wasn't as shocked as he thought I was going to be... the drip-feeding over the years had meant I had some idea but I hadn't really grasped the deep importance to him.
I think I very much separated sex and the rest of our lives but for him, it's like a part of his identity - not an identity he shares with other people - nut that personality which he and I share - he's not going to go yakking to other blokes about his cock! But he thought I understood the centrality of his thoughts on size to his sexual desire and to be honest, I don't think I did.
I think, when we weren't 'in the act' I didn't give it much thought at all.
I do put that down to inexperience on my part, work stuff, general life pain and getting bogged down in that and not seeing how you can let what's closest to you drift off without seeing it.
Now, I think we're closer than we've ever been but that has involved changes in our lives outside the sex stuff, as well as the sex stuff.
In terms of the 'sex stuff' he'd always get turned on by the sex talk and the 'yes you're the smallest of all my exes' type thing but after our big 'talk' I realised that he felt I was being fake about that, that I didn't really believe he was small, that because I'd had limited experience I couldn't really 'know'.
I said then that I didn't want more experience - I wasn't going to consider any sex with anyone else to find out.
He was fine with that - and I was relieved he didn't want to push it - I think it was good for both of us to know each other's limits.

But I did agree to read up on stuff, to check sizes and so on - it was essential to him that his size was as 'real' to me as it was to him.

When we then bought bigger toys we did lots of compare stuff.

I'd never been sexually driven, and that is only slowly changing. But there is a freedom with this sort of openness. Sometimes the bigger toys are a challenge but I've never done anything I haven't liked. I think I am scared of getting too used to the toys - of themselves they are not enough. The thing that turns me on most is him being turned on and to a huge extent ... it's not the kink that does it for me - it's being excited by his excitement. Which is what he says to me - he's excited by my enjoyment of the toys - and I do enjoy them. Our happinesses feed each others.
Sometimes I know he would enjoy it if I was more dom about the whole thing - if I was the initiator of the whole thing - I do wish I could give more of that - but I'm not sure I have that personality type. I'm never going to be a bitchy dom type. I'm never going to get turned on at the thought of coming home and humiliating him but it's about how you look at it, about what perspective you take, and I can get turned on by the thought of coming home getting sexually fulfilled and blowing his mind while he experiences me being fulfilled - which is what he wants for me and to hear from me. Win, win. What we do is probably still not quite enough for him but it's more than before and it's definitely a better experience for both of us

RubbishMantra · 01/05/2015 13:47

"Isn't the OP just a bloke trying to get women to talk about small dicks?"

sid likes it though... Grin

sakura · 01/05/2015 13:56

Of course OP is a bloke!

sakura · 01/05/2015 13:58

And yy to the poster upthread who compared this to upskirting.

AnyFucker · 01/05/2015 14:06

Let's be honest here, this whole thread is just one big pile of wank Grin

or a running commentary of how some men are obsessed with themselves not necessarily their cock Smile

CMOTGilbertBlythe · 01/05/2015 14:11

It's definitely not one poster sock puppetting under 3 different IDs. Not at all.

AnyFucker · 01/05/2015 17:02

nope, that would never happen

Syd12345 · 02/05/2015 06:41

Sorry, not here and not in that sense - since it's a partner specific type of interest which has a much more mental aspect to it (for me) than anything else.

I can imagine Jeanette Geraci's partner was probably confronted with similar levels of confusion.

www.elephantjournal.com/2012/08/unwanted-arousal-sexual-shame-jeanette-geraci/

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