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just need to get this out (toxic mum) long

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sliceofsoup · 02/02/2015 00:33

I usually keep my parents at arms length. We all go through the motions, family parties, weekly phone calls etc. But I don't involve them in my life as much as I used to, in fact hardly at all. All this has been the only way for me to cope with my DMs toxic behaviour and my fathers enabling of her.

But this has now crept up on me. I think I must have let my guard down a bit because it all seemed to be going OK.

I have been receiving the silent treatment from DM for the last two weeks. The reason why is too complicated to post here, but I basically asserted my role as DD1s mother in as gentle and as polite a way as possible. DM of course didn't like this, as she is Mother in Chief and how dare I go against her. So as I say, silent treatment.

They were invited round to ours a few days ago for DD1s birthday. PIL were also here. The first thing was that I had bought DD1 some new clothes for her birthday. DM had also bought clothes. When DD1 didn't immediately change into the new clothes from DM she made faces and huffed and puffed and flung the clothes at me. There was an atmosphere. This will all probably seem petty written down, but after years of the egg shells the atmospheres she creates make me feel physically sick. I am not allowed to buy my own child clothes. Or spend time with her if DM decides she wants her. I do not parent her right. Everything Dd1 does wrong is my fault, everything she does right happens organically, nothing to do with me.

She ignored me over dinner, or gave clipped one word answers. Her and DF both talked about how upset they were at the fact my brother has broke up with his girlfriend.

My brother is 26, working full time and still lives at home. He didn't bother to even send his niece (DD1) a birthday card, or reply to my message inviting him round. He is rude, selfish, owes them a lot of money, and treats them like crap. They let him away with it all. Of course they are upset he has broke up with her, she was a lovely person and was the only good thing in his life. Now hes off drinking all his money and they worry every time he doesn't come home.

I make them cakes and give presents at every birthday etc, he does nothing, yet all they can say at my dinner table relates to him and his life, all the while glossing over what an arsehole he is. If I ever dared "forget" a birthday I would immediately be pulled up on it. I have been pulled up for much less. This has been going on all my life.

She has even rearranged history in her head. Everything was my fault. When DB kicked one of our friends in the face, I was punished. Now she remembers it as I kicked the person in the face.

Anyway. The thing that hurts so much is that everyone (DH, PILS, my friends) can all see straight through her "public face" and they tell me as much. But I can't believe in my heart that it is her with the problem. I have been conditioned by her for so long that I am always trying to see what I did wrong or why its my fault. Logically I know the truth which is why I am able to write this all down, but I don't believe it inside.

I don't ever remember liking her. She was to be feared. But it was all emotional. Guilt trips and walking on eggshells. I have tried to go NC and I just couldn't keep it up. Now that's another stick to beat me with.

Sorry. This is really long. I don't even know what I want from writing this, I just needed to get it out. Thank you for reading.

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Meerka · 25/02/2015 15:40

If you go and you feel that she doesn't understand you, that's probably a sign that you won't click.

if you feel she listens well without pre-conceptions, that's good. A good counsellor will often ask questions that get you thinking hard, either at the time or over a few days after.

If she pushes too hard, gets you crying and feeling as if she's hostile and unsupportive, that's most definitely not a click!

You may not have great social skills but it also depends on if you feel that you like her and respect her to some degree. Sometimes it takes a few sessions to be sure. That comes from YOUR feelings and intuition about her.

Also longer term you should feel that you are moving forward, not staying still. .

sliceofsoup · 01/04/2015 22:09

I had my first counselling session today. :)

I cried, my head is now thumping, and I will probably head to bed soon, but I am so glad that I have finally taken the first step.

The counsellor is lovely, I felt like she really got me, she summed up a few things about my personality really well even though they weren't explicitly talked about. And she didn't have an ounce of judgement. I had worried so much that I would be judged or my problems wouldn't seem "big enough" but she took me seriously.

Feeling positive about the next session.

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CrazyCatLady13 · 01/04/2015 22:53

I'm really pleased that the session was useful, and that you clicked with the counsellor (you're very lucky, my DH went through 3 to find one that was right for him).

I hope this gives you hope that things can get better.

TalkingintheDark · 02/04/2015 15:22

That's really good news, slice, very glad to hear it. I'm sure it will be really helpful to you, and great that you've found someone you feel so comfortable with. Well done Smile

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