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Toad's Solicitor phoned me at home unannounced after hours this evening

984 replies

Karenthetoadslayer · 22/10/2014 22:43

I thought this would call for a new thread.

As I was preparing the children's dinner, the phone rang and guess who it was? Toad's solicitor, to have a chat about contact.

I am a friendly and polite person, also was in shock, so I complied and explained to him the children's views on their father.

DS thought I was 'cool'. Confused.

You never know what will happen at the moment.

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Karenthetoadslayer · 03/12/2014 20:53

I just have to do this list.

He says he has no money.

  • He lives in a very nice hotel
  • He gets three meals per day prepared for him
  • He has his laundry done
  • He drives a luxury vehicle
  • He has massive offices that would be big enough for 100 staff (he has ten)
  • He recently took a trip to France
  • What's wrong with Specsavers?

Apparently he has to pay tax. This should not come as a surprise to him.

Great job to describe his attitude, Jux. Spot on.

Angry Angry Angry

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RandomMess · 03/12/2014 21:09

He is a complete toddler who until now had had his entire life revolve around him and suddenly a parent has said "no" and he's having the most epic tantrum of his life. There will be plenty more, just like a toddler, ignore!!!!

I love the "I have to pay tax"

Please continue to vent away as tbh his attitude makes me chuckle. What does he mean he can't have his cake and eat at anymore, how very dare you put a stop to that!

magoria · 03/12/2014 21:09

What a twat.

I am not a lawyer and not 100% sure but...

CM and redundancy have nothing to do with each other.

He is legally obliged to give you a % of his salary (I bet he is going to try avoiding that) to support his children. This starts from when you put the claim in I believe.

Redundancy is nothing to do with him (I know that sounds weird). The company (it was a company right?) that employed you (even if owned by him) is legally obliged to pay you a statutory minimum redundancy payout.

I know you are onto ACAS etc however you may also have a claim for unfair dismissal as your role was not redundant he dismissed you due to your marriage breakdown. Also did you have a proper contract etc? as you can get him into bother for that too if not.

You are entitled to both.

Fight and get them.

Stay strong. This money legally belongs to you.

magoria · 03/12/2014 21:10

Oh and tax seems to come as a surprise to many people Grin

Karenthetoadslayer · 03/12/2014 21:20

Random I am so used to him that I don't even pick up on things like 'I have to pay tax' anymore.

  • He could have accepted the orders in the first place.
  • He would not have racked up this massive legal bill.
  • He had to accept the orders in the end.
  • All these wasted court costs that he blames me for three times a day are entirely his fault. My initial application cost 3K.

Had I worked somewhere else (or kept my old job where I earned 2x the salary that he paid me) I would not be redundant now and my boss would not try and claim part of my salary to feed his children, so to speak.

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Karenthetoadslayer · 03/12/2014 21:22
  • where I earned 2x the salary fifteen years ago
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mineofuselessinformation · 03/12/2014 22:37

Keep it coming on here, Karen, and DON'T REPLY.
It'll drive him wild with frustration. and make you chuckle when he send increasingly ridiculous emails, which is a bonus.

Walkacrossthesand · 03/12/2014 23:20

Ah but don't you see, you are to blame for the court costs - they wouldn't have been necessary if you had just done what you were told! (Excerpt from 'the world according to Toad').

Lweji · 03/12/2014 23:26

I think there can only be one reply to those emails:
Thank you for your amusing messages. Keep them coming. I do need a good laugh.

Lweji · 03/12/2014 23:27

But best not to reply. Or read, actually.
See you next week with the abridged version? Wink

Karenthetoadslayer · 04/12/2014 11:53

'I appreciate that you wanted to get an 'asset' out of this or have some form of property security. The only way
that this would be possible would be for us to consider either sharing a joint property or having a go at
reconciliation (as mentioned in a previous email), where in both cases you have a clearly defined equity share
as part of a contract agreement.'

Does this imply that there is an unclear / existing / equity share?

Opinions please. Flowers (Not regarding reconciliation, of course, just about the mention of equity share)

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Jux · 04/12/2014 11:56

GrinGrinGrin

Ignore ignore ignore.

Such a twat. Such an unmitigated twat.

"I have to pay tax". LMFAO. Yes, mate, you do. And Child Maintenance. And 3 lots of redundancy (OK, probably only one lot, but we can dream). And if KB goes down that route, unfair dismissal compensation too. Put that in yer pipe and smoke it.

bobs123 · 04/12/2014 12:19

No I don't think so. He's just saying if you want as asset you have to get back with him and then you will get a share

Tosser!!! Ignore

Karenthetoadslayer · 04/12/2014 12:23

ACAS have started the 'Early Reconciliation Process' about unfair dismissal. They are contacting him now.

Toad went ballistic again regarding CM. CMS is going to contact him too.

Omg, he is going to annihilate me.

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Karenthetoadslayer · 04/12/2014 12:24

Jux Grin @ 'three lots of redundancy' because of making me redundant three times. Grin

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Karenthetoadslayer · 04/12/2014 12:25
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bobs123 · 04/12/2014 12:28

Perhaps hopefully he'll just explode with ballistocity Grin

ItIsntJustAPhase · 04/12/2014 13:00

He is not going to annihilate you. He just isn't.

magoria · 04/12/2014 13:13

Use all the services available to you. They are there to stop twats like this and protect you.

IthoughtATMwasacashpoint · 04/12/2014 15:16

Dear me, the very idea that Toad might have to act according to the law of the land as opposed to the law of the Toad will not impress him.

Expect an overflowing inbox full of rants about your oh so unreasonable expectations. I don't think I would bother to read them, but it is, of course, up to you.

He's totally delusional, his plot is irretrievably lost.

Don't let him frighten you, don't hesitate in dialling 999 if you need to.

RandomMess · 04/12/2014 16:22

We could be entertained for months to come with select comments that he sends to you.

Next it will be how dare you say they are my children, I demand dna evidence!!!!

Lweji · 04/12/2014 16:25

I'd be tempted to reply to him about how amusing his emails are.
And then stop reading them for about a week.

Jux · 04/12/2014 16:27

He's not going to annihilate you, lovely. He can behave like a spoilt brattish toddler who isn't allowed to eat chocolate in bed, and drum his little heels all he likes. Rant rant rantity-rant, oh how noisy you're being Little Master Toad, off to bed with you now you're clearly overtired.

I'm not quite sure how I managed to start channeling a 19th century nanny but I quite enjoyed it Grin

Karen, whatever he does now (and it'll be white noise more than anything else), unless it is in strict accordance with what has been ordered, can be ignored by you.

He won't break you, he can't, you're far too flexible. He will break himself.

rumbleinthrjungle · 04/12/2014 17:10

Agree with Jux, he isn't going to annihilate you. Annoy the hell out of you, but this guy is a lot of hot air and nonsense, you're just indoctrinated with habit that what he thinks matters and his wrath will be terrible if you dare stand up to him.

He's just bullshitting in complex English, it's a cheap first year university intellectual snobbery trick. 'Equity' .... what he means is, if you want anything at all of what I've got, you have to belong to me. Why he thinks now at this point you would ever want to enter into some affectionate commitment with him says clearly that it's bullshitting, the man has no grasp on reality. The court will take this nonsense to pieces, you have his children, he isn't going to get to decide things his way.

How about taking the kids and going somewhere for a week without access to a computer, Karen? You need a break from this little minded twerp, he can rant away at your inbox without you, he doesn't actually need you for this game and the next step is court, you don't need to provide him with an audience. Go somewhere you can feel really away from him, get some space and have a mental health few days.

rumbleinthrjungle · 04/12/2014 17:19

You can probably set your email client to reply to mails with something like 'as we can do nothing more now until we go to court I will not be reading or responding to any more emails until after that date'.

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